[kictanet] Fraud at KENIC?
Ali Hussein
ali at hussein.me.ke
Fri Jan 26 12:06:05 EAT 2018
Abdalla
Thanks for the prompt response.
As a person who personally bid for a number of Premium Domains I'm
gratified that you are taking measures to weed out Bots from the system.
This is good.
I'm eagerly awaiting for ROUND II! :-)
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
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*Hussein & Associates*
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Abdalla <ceo at kenic.or.ke> wrote:
> Dear Ali,
>
> Questions to KeNIC have been answered in-line, red font, below.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Abdalla Omari.
> *Chief Executive Officer*
>
>
> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> @Kennedy
>
> You got that right. The auction is not connected to the main core registry
> system.
>
> In the scheme of things we ought to commend KeNIC and the CA
> (Communication Authority) for responding promptly to issues of public
> interest. This can only improve their engagement and performance in
> relation to the public. I wish I could say the same regarding the team
> behind the eCiziten Portal.
>
> @Sidney you raised a pertinent issue on possible fraud and leakage. Mine
> is to ask for clarification from KeNIC on this issue.
>
> 1. Was anyone who bid and won a domain denied it and given to someone else
>
>
> All bid winners were communicated to, asked to confirm their interest and
> follow up by making payments directly to the KeNIC account and send proof
> of payment to the Finance team. Only 12 domains have been paid for and
> registered as communicated earlier.
>
>
> 2. Since we know no system in the world is 100% full proof it would be
> good to get an assurance from KeNIC on what happens next.
>
>
> All names that have not been paid for will be released for auction and the
> date of the 2nd auction will be communicated. We are coming up with
> stringent procedures for the next auction.
>
>
> @Barrack, I applaud your bringing to attention the privacy angle. There’s
> zero excuse for someone to peddle a document with personal information the
> way this document was circulated. Respect of personal privacy is an
> important matter in today’s world. Even as we wait for a bill to address
> this I urge us to play a personal role in this and exercise self regulation.
>
> Regards
>
> *Ali Hussein*
> *Principal*
> *Hussein & Associates*
> +254 0713 601113
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
> Skype: abu-jomo
> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>
> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
> habit." ~ Aristotle
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 Jan 2018, at 10:15 AM, Kennedy Aseda via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Harry,
>
> 1. Why would the second level domain system, *supposedly not hosted on
> the parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere)*, cause an outage or
> cause the main pre-existing database system of third level domains to
> crash, like what was witnessed.
> *I think the system KeNIC is referring to here is the auction system - not
> the registry itself.*
>
> Thereafter, when auction closed; my understanding from the two
> communications is that the bulk deletion from the registry of the SLDs that
> were reserved but not paid for caused erroneous deletion of nameservers
> from the registry database.
>
> Kennedy.
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Harry Delano via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Hey Abdalla,
>>
>> Thanks for the attached response, have gone through it. Some queries
>> still linger:-
>>
>> 1. Why would the second level domain system, supposedly not hosted on the
>> parent system (am assuming hosted elsewhere), cause an outage or cause the
>> main pre-existing database system of third level domains to crash, like
>> what was witnessed.
>>
>> 2. How foolproof, or what measures were taken to ward off rigging or
>> 'defective' bids in the system. A cursory look at the list of bidders, if
>> at all authentic seems to indicate most of those email addresses are
>> foreign, and very few of them on the local . KE domain space. How
>> ironical..?
>>
>> 3. It almost sounds incredulous that one bid reached KES 1,000,0000,038.
>> Would love to look forward to when that gets paid up, please keep us
>> posted..
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On 26 Jan 2018 08:23, "Abdalla via kictanet" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Listers,
>>>
>>> Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment
>>> needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on
>>> this list.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Abdalla Omari.
>>> *Chief Executive Officer*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as
>>> this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
>>>
>>> On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Sidney,
>>>>
>>>> I have read your email.
>>>>
>>>> I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
>>>>
>>>> As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the
>>>> process conducted.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Abdalla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Sidney,
>>>> >
>>>> > There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
>>>> issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border
>>>> and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially
>>>> where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name
>>>> industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies
>>>> have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest
>>>> including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a
>>>> policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically
>>>> equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to
>>>> time.
>>>> >
>>>> > I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
>>>> insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best Regards
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Listers,
>>>> >> So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
>>>> was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
>>>> >>
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>>>
>>> --
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>>> Sidney
>>>
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