[kictanet] To save CA from bullies, restore its autonomy and independence

Thu Jan 25 11:50:01 EAT 2018

Bwana PS,

Thank you for stating your part. Feedback is always important.  I will wait
for the board's report. Continue with the good work that you are doing.

Regards,

Kevin

On 24 January 2018 at 21:34, sammyitemere--- via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Thank you guys unfortunately this far from the truth a conversation will
> help clarify the really issues at CA. But because the matter is being
> handled by the board l rest my case.
> Regards
>
> Sent from my Huawei Mobile
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] To save CA from bullies, restore its autonomy and
> independence
> From: Ali Hussein via kictanet
> To: sammyitemere at gmail.com
> CC: Ali Hussein ,KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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>
> Grace
>
> Thanks for that trip down memory lane.. Lest we forget.. :-)
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> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:09 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu at gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> Kelvin,
>> Please refer to the thread "independent Communications Commission of
>> Kenya" that gives diverse views on what independence means (for example,
>> functional and financial independence) and how in the end, the
>> communications law was amended. This background supports the points that
>> Jaindi is raising that interdependence between the Authority and Ministry
>> should only be at policy and not financial level.
>> Thread starts here https://lists.kictanet.or
>> .ke/pipermail/kictanet/2010-November/031757.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 Jan 2018 10:48 am, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> @Kevin
>>>
>>> I like your response. The interplay between independence and
>>> interdependence. :-)
>>>
>>> I fully agree with you.
>>>
>>> I have one issue though and this is one of *Corporate Governance*. The
>>> monies we are talking about are not small change in the scheme of things. A
>>> million here and 25 million there..This adds up.
>>>
>>> No organization worth its salt should be run 'Kiholela' like that. With
>>> all due respect to the Mandarins at the MOICT. They should know better. The
>>> right way to do things is to sit with the CA and have a discussion at the
>>> end of every year as to which activities they would like CA to fund. These
>>> then should be consolidated and ExComm (Executive Committee of the Senior
>>> Management Team at CA) presents this to the Board of Directors for
>>> ratification and it becomes a budget item and above board.
>>>
>>> The CA is a critical institution and the goings on there smack of
>>> machinations to control the billions that CA has in its budget. It's wrong
>>> for MOICT to treat the CA budget as its personal piggy bank/slush fund. The
>>> MOICT has a vote. Let it live within its means like we all do. And in case
>>> they are unable to the paragraph before this should be a guideline on how
>>> to go about it so that no one is exposed.
>>>
>>> Lastly, I also think what the Director General did, if the reporting has
>>> any truth to it is wrong. He simply should not have the power to approve
>>> extra-judicial budget items. This leaves him vulnerable later to
>>> manipulation. Let there be clear procedures on how these things are done.
>>> At the Boards that I sit in that in itself is a firing offence. Let us not
>>> expose our heads of government agencies to such manipulation. It is akin to
>>> abuse of power by MOICT. It simply is not acceptable.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
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>>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am eagerly waiting for the report of the audit that is being
>>>> currently conducted. This and the responses thereafter will give a clear
>>>> indication of the situation at the CA.
>>>>
>>>> As for the letters regarding the request of funds, I do not find any
>>>> issue with this. The only condition is that these funds must be accounted
>>>> for and even better a report written about the official activities that
>>>> were attended to by whom, where and also what returns are to be gained from
>>>> the engagements. And further follow up until the intended goals are
>>>> achieved.
>>>>
>>>> Our institutions need to be independent, yes. They are also
>>>> inter-dependent. Having the PSs of the ICT or other Ministries does not
>>>> have to be bad thing. It in fact can serve as a way to expedite decision
>>>> making and enhance cooperation - basically doing away with
>>>> inter-institutional bureaucracy.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On 24 January 2018 at 13:06, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> In Summary
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Surely, somebody must be made to answer for those letters.
>>>>>    - This is the sector that gave Kenya global leadership in mobile
>>>>>    banking.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/To-save-CA-from-bullie
>>>>> s-restore-its-autonomy-and-independence/440808-4275382-a055q
>>>>> 6/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> PS. Its sad to see what is happening at CA because we debated
>>>>> extensively on this list the process that gave it its autonomy. I am
>>>>> confident the team at the helm of the ministry has what it takes to put us
>>>>> back on the correct path.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Barrack O. Otieno
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