[kictanet] 1 billion to the DCI to fight cyber-crime

Kevin Kamonye kevin.kamonye at gmail.com
Mon Feb 5 08:08:17 EAT 2018


English is not my first language as well Emmanuel, don't be too harsh on
yourself.

Now there is a difference between defending and taking a pragmatic approach
to a situation that I have little power to change.

Regards,

Kevin

On 5 February 2018 at 08:00, Emmanuel Khisa <oloo.khisa at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> What is important is that we need to recognise and applaud the importance
> of this move by the President. It makes little sense to want to get more
> and more people online without having a strong framework through which you
> can protect them, or at least provide a means of helping them to
> investigate and prosecute these people that are usually very keen to have a
> fresh supply of cyber victims. I will be following this one keenly
>
> * Blame my inability to understand the english language but this seems to
> me like defending the directive *
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 07:47, "Kevin Kamonye" <kevin.kamonye at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good Morning Emmanuel.
>>
>> Your view therefore is that allocating $10m to DCI will improve the cyber
>>> security profession?
>>
>>
>> Where did I present such a view? But now that you bring it up - I will
>> say it would certainly have the potential to do so if the funds were to be
>> spent well.
>>
>> How much did send $300m on integrated CCTV cameras project improve on
>>> security in Nairobi? Any arrests.
>>
>>
>> What is the relation between CCTV cameras and advanced cyber crime?
>>
>> Anyway, since you have brought up the CCTV project, at least you will
>> agree that they are seemingly delivering on their main objective - helping
>> the security forces in preventing terror related attacks. And by this I am
>> not just referring to AlShabab but also politically instigated terrorism
>> such as the clip that was circulated about some armed people attacking the
>> police on Jan 30th.
>>
>> Again why take out money from the USF for they new cash cow(cyber
>>> security), when there is a ministry of ICT and the OP with their own
>>> budgets? Let's follow the law to the letter. The President does not have a
>>> blank cheque to decide where monies go unless we have now suspended the
>>> constitution.
>>
>>
>> Once more I can only speculate that the government is drawing from the
>> USF due to a shortage of funds. This needs to be clarified and explained to
>> the public. If you are of the opinion that the President is wrong, then go
>> register your complaint in court.
>>
>> ​​Short as written from a deeply compromised device :-)​
>>
>>
>> Your ignorance is bliss. Also, please just read through what someone else
>> has taken their time to express before you get yourself triggered based on
>> nothing.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On 5 February 2018 at 07:01, Emmanuel Khisa <oloo.khisa at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So Kamonye,
>>>
>>> ​​
>>> ​​
>>> Your view therefore is that allocating $10m to DCI will improve the
>>> cyber security profession?
>>>
>>> How much did send $300m on integrated CCTV cameras project improve on
>>> security in Nairobi? Any arrests.
>>>
>>> Again why take out money from the USF for they new cash cow(cyber
>>> security), when there is a ministry of ICT and the OP with their own
>>> budgets? Let's follow the law to the letter. The President does not have a
>>> blank cheque to decide where monies go unless we have now suspended the
>>> constitution.
>>>
>>> ​​
>>> Short as written from a deeply compromised device :-)
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2018 23:35, "Kevin Kamonye via kictanet" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is an alarming shortage of Cyber Security professionals. Not just
>>>> in Kenya but globally. One of the reasons for this is that the monetary
>>>> gain in taking the path of an ethical hacker pales in comparison to that of
>>>> blackhat related activities.
>>>>
>>>> To address this, governments and top corporate are revising the
>>>> remuneration for such roles in a big way.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, we have the likes of Cisco who are developing new
>>>> curriculum to address this shortage. In fact they have granted a $10M scholarship
>>>> program <https://mkto.cisco.com/security-scholarship> to develop
>>>> security professionals. I am one of the beneficiaries.
>>>>
>>>> For those asking about what complex crimes need to be fought - let me
>>>> assure you that there is a very high chance that all of your connected
>>>> devices is currently compromised. If not all of them. Don't wait for a
>>>> skull and some text written in bold green to pop up on your screen to
>>>> notify you that you have been hacked. That is not the level at which it is
>>>> done nowadays. Your antivirus is also not going to help much - they work on
>>>> a reactionary basis meaning that you get an update once a "new"
>>>> vulnerability is discovered.
>>>>
>>>> I think that these funds are being drawn from the USF because the
>>>> government is currently running low on funds, it would at least be a good
>>>> thing for them to state this clearly if this is the case.
>>>>
>>>> What is important is that we need to recognise and applaud the
>>>> importance of this move by the President. It makes little sense to
>>>> want to get more and more people online without having a strong framework
>>>> through which you can protect them, or at least provide a means of helping
>>>> them to investigate and prosecute these people that are usually very keen
>>>> to have a fresh supply of cyber victims. I will be following this one
>>>> keenly.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
>>>> On 4 February 2018 at 00:30, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am of the opinion (sorry, there must be a better word, but the wine
>>>>> in my head has locked it out from access!) that the problem starts and ends
>>>>> with the USFAC - Universal Service Fund Advisory Council or whatever that
>>>>> moribund thing is called. It's been in office since Matiang'i was CS ICT
>>>>> till now. How many years are those?
>>>>> This forum has always called for the use of the USF for certain
>>>>> purposes. I remember Collins Areba once gave out very compelling reasons on
>>>>> where the USF should come into play. It's several years since and the USFAC
>>>>> have just been sitting on their laurels.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is time that AC is disbanded. I hope they don't draw any salaries
>>>>> or allowances for being in that AC, because if they do, they need to refund
>>>>> every single enny they've drawn for "doing nothing".
>>>>>
>>>>> And we must strongly come out and tell Uhuru Kenyatta that the USF is
>>>>> not subject to his directives. I must say that him having appointed some
>>>>> guy called Kinoti to be DCI, who owes allegiance to him, does not augur
>>>>> well with his DIRECTIVE. That is corruption and I am not willing to listen
>>>>> to "jameni, mnataka nifanye nini?" with my taxes!
>>>>>
>>>>> USF must be used for what it was conceived for, not for CID Forensics
>>>>> Lab, which is built by Administration after Administration.
>>>>>
>>>>> One wishes for the days of Bitange Ndemo's tenure at the ICT Ministry,
>>>>> because even a fly could raise an issue and Ndemo would engage.
>>>>>
>>>>> This error or Mucheru where opacity rules is chocking!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line though is that presidential directives constitute an
>>>>> abuse of the USF when there is an Advisory Council.
>>>>>
>>>>> That moribund Advisory Council need to GO, a new one constituted and
>>>>> USF applied only on improving access to telecommunications for the
>>>>> citizens, not funding the DCI, which should have a budget, just like the
>>>>> military have a budget. The DCI have a budget for their operations and it's
>>>>> not supposed to be drawn from the USF. That is THEFT.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 February 2018 at 16:41, Admin CampusCiti <info at campusciti.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Washington
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nature abhors a vacuum. This list has time and again consistently
>>>>>> reminded the CA and the USF to spend the money as it was meant to. Swathes
>>>>>> of the country are still without connectivity and we still print out
>>>>>> quarterly fiction about connectivity statistics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On this the President is right. What he is basically saying is that
>>>>>> if you can’t find a way to spend the money I will show you how to!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ili we funzo kwa the upcoming DG... :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2018, at 1:04 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This 1B for the DCI for "complex" crimes directive is just the
>>>>>> beginning!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With Wangusi OUT (blocked from resuming office despite a court order)
>>>>>> and the Fatcats now in control, I can see the whole of the USF account
>>>>>> being depleted in no time, and without any part of it going for
>>>>>> infrastructure improvement or anything that it was intended for.
>>>>>> I remember a recent media article where the Ministry of ICT had
>>>>>> requested CA to fund the presidential inauguration to the tune of KES 25m
>>>>>> when there was actually a budget for the inauguration, which the article
>>>>>> cited as some of the possible reasons Wangusi is being hounded out of
>>>>>> office, because he declined the request despite CA sitting on billions in
>>>>>> USF!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that such a directive is out, and will possibly be executed with
>>>>>> haste, my question is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Does the law allow the president to give directives to CA??
>>>>>> 2. Does the law allow the president (or the Minister) to give
>>>>>> directives on where.how the USF should be used?
>>>>>> 3. Whom does the law give the mandate to decide on the USF??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For starters, the independence of the CA is OVER!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 February 2018 at 16:52, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One billion shillings from Communications Authority universal
>>>>>>> service fund to be allocated to DCI, to boost fight against cyber-crime,
>>>>>>> 'and more complex crimes with which today Kenyans must contend.'. - Uhuru
>>>>>>> at IG Conference.
>>>>>>> Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilCu3Ch1mXk
>>>>>>> Is this legal? Is this what the fund is for?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Sidney
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
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