[kictanet] Registering ICT practitioners

Victor Kapiyo vkapiyo at gmail.com
Wed May 31 10:16:25 EAT 2017


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On 31 May 2017 10:08, "Wambua, Christopher via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Listers
>
> We have taken note of your concerns and shall revise the notice
> accordingly.
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 31 May 2017, at 09:40, Watila Alex via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> Good morning,
>
> Actually, that was the reasoning how you could be charged for improper use
> of a telecommunication device
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk at lists.
> kictanet.or.ke <kictanet-bounces+awatila=yahoo.co.uk at lists.kictanet.or.ke>]
> *On Behalf Of *Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:28 PM
> *To:* awatila at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke>
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Registering ICT practitioners
>
>
>
> Wambua,
>
> Are you guys serious?
>
> A "telecommunication" device is such things as phones, computers etc
>
> Now, let's read that law with that in mind and I guess there are 30M
> kenyans due for registration....
>
> You can't make this stuff up!
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> I have already done so. Here we go:
>
>
>
> KICA Section
>
> 24. (1) No person shall—
>
> (a) operate a telecommunication system; or
>
> (b) provide any telecommunication services
>
> except in accordance with a valid licence granted under this Act.
>
>
>
> And there are other clauses in KiCA that cover other services such as
> broadcasting, postal/courier and radio-communications services.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> On 30 May 2017, at 21:17, Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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> @Wambua
>
>
>
> Please can you quote the exact clause of the exact law that the CA is
> talking about here?
>
>
>
> Are you guys talking about Telco service providers, Software Developers,
> Hardware Resellers etc? I'm confused.
>
>
>
> And how does a license guarantee quality of service?
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>
>
> This is simply rent seeking. And will not stand.
>
>
>
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> On 30 May 2017, at 8:47 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Wambua,
>
> Please educate me on this one....
>
> When did this become the law?
>
> We have had similar debates here when Parliament & later Min.ICT tried to
> push through a very similar law and to the best of my knowledge they
> remained as proposals / draft laws.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Wambua, Christopher via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Sidney
>
>
>
> CA is implementing the law that requires service providers in the ICT
> sector to obtain licences from the Authority before commencing operations.
>
>
>
> I did not imply in any way that this was best way to enforce contractual
> obligations.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 30 May 2017, at 19:59, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wambua,
>
> We've been through this argument the last time. I'd like to see the
> research that backs up your assertion that this is the best way to get
> recourse for contractual obligations. We have courts and I'd like to know
> why that option is inadequate
>
> Sent on the move, kindly excuse any typos.
>
> Sidney
>
>
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2017 19:47, "Wambua, Christopher" <Wambua at ca.go.ke> wrote:
>
> Sidney
>
> The rationale for the public notice is to encourage consumers to seek ICT
> services only from licensed service providers. This will guarantee
> consumers of recourse to regulatory intervention in instances where
> licensees fail to meet their contract obligations. It is also meant to
> complement ongoing initiatives to weed out unlicensed entities from the ICT
> market,and therefore protected our licensees from unfair competition.
>
> Best regards
>
> Wambua
>
> The persons running these unlicensed entities
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> > On 30 May 2017, at 19:21, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >
> > Out of nowhere... Can someone from the CA explain why?
> >
> > Sent on the move, kindly excuse any typos.
> >
> > Sidney
>
> > <Image uploaded from iOS.jpg>
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