[kictanet] WikiLeaks CIA Leaks

Thu Mar 9 12:36:06 EAT 2017

I probably think this is more of a cultural issue more than anything else. I second MZ's quote and opine the culture in .KE is still very much personal privacy.

The generation Z in KE feel/think differently and it's just a matter of time sentiments change.

Eric 

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> On 9 Mar 2017, at 09:21, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> @Mwendwa, that was an argument that was made when Parliament was considering the ratification of the  agreement between Kenya and US on biological threats and I thought perhaps we should pay closer attention to these numerous agreements that we're too eager to sign. Or the fact that financial assistance offered to us for research almost always results in the financier owning the information. 
> 
> @Mark, it is quite likely that their own ethical hackers didn't know of these vulnerabilities. Now that they do, we must bring them to account going forward on what is being done to mitigate this. No I do not think it is possible to hold Google, iOS or Samsung accountable at this juncture.  Of course there is the part where Google and Apple seem confident on having 'fixed it' https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/07/apple-says-most-vulnerabilities-in-wikileaks-docs-are-already-patched/ and https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/08/google-is-the-latest-company-to-brush-off-most-of-the-wikileaks-vulnerabilities/ 
> 
> Maybe Zuckerberg wasn't so wrong after all- People no longer have an expectation of privacy in this age. 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:03 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> On 8 March 2017 at 20:07, K Machuhi via kictanet
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> > What is the worst that can happen when CIA or DCI for that matter gains such
>> > intimate access to our private lives from texts and CDRs?
>> >
>> > Prepare for it or else enrol in a Smoke Signal Communications class.
>> >
>> > Possibly, humankind's rights to privacy was buried in rumble one bright
>> > September morning 15 years ago.
>> 
>> 
>> I had a longer response to this, but I will make its short with an
>> illustration, and allows us to digest.
>> 
>> Kenya GDP vs US GDP year 2015:
>> Kenya            : $63.4 billion per year
>> United States : $18.04 trillion per year
>> 
>> Relative value ratio:
>> Unites States : 284.5
>> Kenya            : 1
>> 
>> Relative value Comparison:
>> United States : 2850% larger
>> Kenya            : 99.65% smaller
>> 
>> So lets compare notes on those GDP percentages after 10 years with
>> that reasoning where we have one state have access to all our
>> insights, while we have zero of theirs. When you look at surveillance
>> in terms of how it affects parochial people who have no friction with
>> the state is loosing the bigger picture. It means your patents,
>> research, trade secrets, business deals are all with the big brother.
>> When Kenya goes to negotiate a business deal with US, they already
>> know what we discussed in private, and have already a counter proposal
>> to which we don't have any counter offer. This is just one example.
>> 
>> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=kenya+gdp+vs+US+gdp
>> 
>> Regards
>> ______________________
>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
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