[kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses announcingelection results - Citizentv.co.ke

Sun Jul 30 10:44:47 EAT 2017

I wonder why so much reference is made to 2007/8 elections yet we had an
election under the new constitution in 2013 which was peaceful. All these
new guidelines and information controls are raising tensions for nothing.
The IEBC is the referee and not the cameraman on the sidelines. They have
the final say on who the winner is, not the cameraman.

On 29 Jul 2017 23:16, "Liz Orembo via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Results announced at  the constituency level are official and final.
> What's wrong with tallying?
>
> The media, including online communities can tally but it is the IEBC's
> role to declare. This was also echoed during the KIGF by the IEBC rep.
>
> On Jul 29, 2017 10:19 PM, "Deborah via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Thursday I attended an observers' briefing at Bomas. It was meant to
>> start at 11 but started at around 11:45. The only Kenyan media house I
>> spotted was Citizen which came in at around 12:45 after the briefing by the
>> commissioners. They only caught the plenary session. I wouldn't be
>> surprised if that is what happened at this function.
>>
>> Concerning the tallying, IEBC stated the media would be streaming the
>> results real-time as it receives them. IEBC is clear that only one
>> announcement will be made on the winner, and it is the only one to make
>> that announcement. I believe this is what they are guarding against,
>> premature announcements.
>>
>> Deborah
>> ------------------------------
>> From: kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Sent: ‎29/‎07/‎2017 20:35
>> To: deborah.wanjugu at gmail.com
>> Cc: kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Gov't threatens to shut media houses
>> announcingelection results - Citizentv.co.ke
>>
>> @Ali like you I am also curious on this insistence on 'Tally but do not
>> announce'.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Davis Onsakia via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> The IEBC have indicated that the results will be on their portal as
>>> announced at the constituency tallying centre.
>>>
>>> What's wrong with a media house picking that and just doing some simple
>>> arithmetic? And of course attributing the source of the figures to IEBC,
>>> unless there's something sinister somebody is trying on Kenyans.
>>>
>>> My only hope is that the CS was either misquoted or his words taken out
>>> of context, as indicated by Ali.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Davis Onsakia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 at 8:00 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dorcas
>>>>
>>>> That was the beginning of what we now call 'Fake News' depending on
>>>> which part of the political divide one was standing it.
>>>>
>>>> The point remains. You CANNOT threaten news media for carrying genuine
>>>> news and results. Those who do must of course be prepared for the full
>>>> force of the law.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>> *Principal*
>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>
>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>
>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but
>>>> a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 7:32 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ali,
>>>>
>>>> I think you know in 2008 a certain media attempt to be first caused
>>>> lots of problems.  I can assure I would like the CS to act very tough this
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> The onus is on the media houses and bloggers to abind responsibly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 29, 2017 7:22 PM, "Ali Hussein" <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dorcas
>>>>>
>>>>> You are being disingenuous. No media house in this country has ever
>>>>> purported to carry official results. However media houses can and should
>>>>> announce the results from different polling stations and constituencies.
>>>>> Often times the lack of information is what causes unnecessary pressure and
>>>>> concern. By the way it instructive to note that IEBC will put results on
>>>>> its portal and I understand that they actually provide APIs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what you mean to say is that the media should act responsibly?
>>>>> Any Kenyan with a social media account, access to media can tally make
>>>>> their own tallies.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious why this major concern about media houses announcing
>>>>> results? What are we missing here?  There is just too much pressure and
>>>>> focus to curb flow of information. This is a democracy. Let us remember
>>>>> that. And our constitution is clear and explicit on access to information.
>>>>> Let us leave KANU tactics where they belong. In the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless of course the CS was misquoted or taken out of context?
>>>>> #JustAsking..
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>> *Principal*
>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>
>>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act
>>>>> but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 Jul 2017, at 5:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The media must act very responsibly. On this one, I will support the
>>>>> CS. Everyone may tally but a media house cannot purport to have the
>>>>> official record.  Only IEBC has the mandate.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2017 4:13 PM, "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This doesn't sound right. Two steps forwad one back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet
>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
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