[kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data protection/privacy law

John Kieti jkieti at gmail.com
Mon Jul 24 16:41:29 EAT 2017


Harry, others

Not only does that SMS appear to violate privacy. It also appears that the
person might have acquired your contacts details from IEBC *illegally*.

Good luck with stopping further texts from the source - its election time!

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Francis Monyango via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Actually the Guidelines published by CA prohibit unsolicited texts
> from service providers. The service providers have to prove that the
> receiver of the text message actually subscribed for it.
>
> On 24/07/2017, Harry Delano via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
> > It looks at the very best, all we could do from this point onward might
> > only be mitigational.Data protection/privacy is clearly the proverbial
> > horse that bolted, ages back.It's in the wild now..!
> >
> > Harry
> >
> > On Jul 24, 2017 1:30 PM, "Victor Kapiyo" <vkapiyo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In the absence of a data protection law, the Communications Authority
> (in
> >> the same spirit as they did the bulk SMS guidelines) should provide data
> >> protection guidelines to guide institutions such as IEBC, eCITIZEN,
> >> Telcos,
> >> Taxi hailing services and others collecting user data in electronic
> >> format
> >> and sharing with or selling them to members of the public.
> >>
> >> Victor
> >>
> >> On 24 Jul 2017 1:20 p.m., "Harry Delano via kictanet" <
> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>
> >>> While still at this, I just got the ensuing txt below directly to my
> >>> line..! Is there data mining of my data on the register by 3rd
> >>> parties..??!!
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> http://www.smscaster.com DEAR Nairobi Central Ward Voter:I Antony
> Kamau
> >>> Gitumbi (Guka)with PNU wishes you a successful week & request your vote
> >>> for
> >>> MCA on 8/8/2
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Where are the so much talked about data privacy protection  systems..?
> >>>
> >>> Harry
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 21, 2017 6:40 AM, "Grace Mutung'u via kictanet" <
> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi John,
> >>> The scenario you describe makes a case for data protection law, because
> >>> it should not be legal to have access to the IEBC register for (bulk
> SMS
> >>> or
> >>> other) business purposes.
> >>> Thankfully there are guidelines against unsolicited bulk SMS from
> >>> political parties and candidates.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 21 Jul 2017 12:43 a.m., "John Kieti via kictanet" <
> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> One thing I was shocked to learn about is that IEBC actually has my
> >>>> phone number. I wonder why I didn't question the field on their form
> >>>> requiring you to give them phone number during the BVR exercise back
> in
> >>>> 2012. But that is not nearly the main problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is that in the last week before elections, many aspirants
> >>>> with unscrupulous access to IEBC's databases (for specific
> >>>> jurisdictions)
> >>>> will use the phone numbers to send campaign messages in bulk to their
> >>>> would
> >>>> be constituents. You just need to ask yourself where aspirants for
> >>>> party
> >>>> primaries in specific areas were getting your number to beg for your
> >>>> vote
> >>>> in the last hours before nomination date.
> >>>>
> >>>> Good luck with data privacy people!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Walubengo J via kictanet <
> >>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> @Eng Kariuki,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Absolutely.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Once the election dust has settled we should ALL push for the Data
> >>>>> Protection Act which I am aware has been doing rounds as a Bill in
> >>>>> parliament since 2007.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yes, it is not lost to keen observers that the widely celebrated
> >>>>> and recently passed Access to Information Act was pushed through as
> a (
> >>>>> P.
> >>>>> Nyokabi's ) private member's bill  and not government ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Globally, governments seem to have phobia for some of these touchy
> >>>>> things :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> walu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* John Kariuki <kariuki_jn at yahoo.com>
> >>>>> *To:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>; KICTAnet ICT Policy
> Discussions <
> >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:36 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data
> >>>>> protection/privacy law
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Walu,
> >>>>> When the present debate and IEBC issues are done,let us chat about
> >>>>> data
> >>>>> protection legislation.
> >>>>> You may perhaps be aware that I have been pursuing it since 2007
> >>>>> without success! You may also recall that Access to information Act
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> pulled through mainly through the efforts of Nyeri Woman Rep,
> >>>>> Priscilla
> >>>>> Nyokabi who had dealt with the subject before joining politics!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Kariuki
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>>>> *To:* kariuki_JN at yahoo.com
> >>>>> *Cc:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:12 PM
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data
> >>>>> protection/privacy law
> >>>>>
> >>>>> @Mulwa,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Partial Voter ID wont help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The major reason people (esp. political parties) want the voter
> >>>>> register is to do analytics/audits of the same- with the presumption
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> the voter register is tainted.  Partial IDs would not be useful in
> such
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> exercise, eg when searching for duplicate, fake or underaged IDs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the other hand,full disclosure exposes citizen data  to potential
> >>>>> data abuse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is where the Data Protection Act would have been useful in as
> far
> >>>>> as providing a framework of use. It would balance out these two
> >>>>> conflicting
> >>>>> requirements that protects everyones interests.  The Act would for
> >>>>> example
> >>>>> allow for conditional access - i.e with appropriate penalties in the
> >>>>> event
> >>>>> of abuse or exposure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the moment supermarkets, banks, hospital, universities, operators,
> >>>>> etc can abuse your private information but then...so what?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> walu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* Patrick Mulwa via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> >>>>> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com
> >>>>> *Cc:* Patrick Mulwa <pmulwa2006 at gmail.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:20 PM
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS - data
> >>>>> protection/privacy law
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Guys, the USA is facing the same issue where thousands of voters are
> >>>>> removing themselves from state voter rolls, prompted by fears that
> >>>>> their
> >>>>> information will be revealed by President Donald Trump’s vote fraud
> >>>>> commission.At least 44 of the 50 states have refused requests by the
> >>>>> committee to hand over data. However, this is more  POLITICAL as it
> is
> >>>>> seen
> >>>>> by many as an attempt by Trump to justify why he lost the popular
> >>>>> vote.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe @IEBCKenya might consider revealing PARTIAL names, ID number,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> location. I want to stress the word PARTIAL here. A good example is a
> >>>>> bank
> >>>>> where they present to you a few letters of your phone number or your
> >>>>> visa/MasterCard and ask you to fill them in to verify that an account
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> yours.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Personally, I believe partial voter data might be the way to go here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Douglas Gichuki via kictanet <
> >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Walubengo,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Article 31 is a general principle of the constitution that while
> >>>>> sufficient to anchor privacy as a general constitutional right does
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> address offer the mechanics of operationalising privacy. We need to
> >>>>> move on
> >>>>> a responsive ACT asap.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2017 4:45 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" <
> >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have been reliably informed that Kenya actually has a law on data
> >>>>> protection. The super-law, the Constitution of Kenya says in article
> 31
> >>>>> as
> >>>>> follows:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *31.* Every person has the right to privacy, which includes the right
> >>>>> not to have—
> >>>>> (*a*) their person, home or property searched;
> >>>>> (*b*) their possessions seized;
> >>>>> (*c*) information relating to their family or private affairs
> >>>>> unnecessarily required or revealed; or
> >>>>> (*d*) the privacy of their communications infringed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I therefore rephrase my earlier statement to claimed that we do not
> >>>>> have a law, and say theat we do not have an "Act" on Data
> >>>>> Protection/Privacy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe IEBC can use the provisions in article 31 in the meantime.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> walu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >
> >>>>> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com
> >>>>> *Cc:* Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:34 AM
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> True that Tony.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But here is the news - Kenya has NO data protection law or policy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So anything flows and goes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> walu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* Tony White via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >
> >>>>> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com
> >>>>> *Cc:* Tony White <tony.mzungu at gmail.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:17 AM
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] IEBC 2017 REGISTER OF VOTERS
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On the other hand, I do not want **anyone** listing my name and ID
> >>>>> number for anyone to scrape and mis-use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Revealing personal information is **not** 'transparency' - it's a
> >>>>> breach of data privacy!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Tony
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 19/07/2017, Patrick Mulwa via kictanet <
> >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >>>>> > We still have a long way to go with regards to Transparency
> >>>>> > @IEBCKenya
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:16 PM, John Kieti via kictanet <
> >>>>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >> Found it laughable :)
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Alex K via kictanet <
> >>>>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >>> [image: Inline image 1]      What an ICT lie with this IEBC to
> put
> >>>>> >>> a
> >>>>> >>> link for access to a register and then have STATISTICS ON
> >>>>> >>> REGISTERED
> >>>>> >>> VOTERS/  DISTRIBUTION OF REGISTERED VOTERS.
> >>>>> >>> It is so dishonest a move by such a Credible body especially to
> >>>>> people
> >>>>> >>> in
> >>>>> >>> ICT.
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> >>> Mr. Alexander M. Kamau,
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
> >>>>> >>>
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> >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
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> >>> do
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>



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John Kieti
Phone: +254-735-764242 // +254-722-764242
Twitter: @johnKieti // Skype:  jkieti
Blog: gmeltdown.com <http://www.gmeltdown.com> // LinkedIn:
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