[kictanet] Airtel Plans Africa Exit

Collins Areba arebacollins at gmail.com
Mon Jan 30 19:52:30 EAT 2017


@Job

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Job Muriuki via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Ali,
>
> I mean they open up Mpesa and they pay loyalties.
>
Why? In whose interests is this?

> Currently, it's like been paid with Barclays bank cheque while you bank
> with CBA and the two don't honour foreign cheques so you are forced to open
> a Barclays account and before you know it you end up not banking with CBA
> altogether. Not that Barclays has better services but somehow you have been
> arm twisted to using them.
>
I would beg to differ, at the moment, you can bank that check, so they have
ceded this bit. (You can receive payments from safaricom on any number), I
think what you are asking is in addition to honouring the check, that
Barclays cedes more of their operating infrastructure. Their ATMs, their
branches for you to conduct your own business.

>
>
> Regards,
> Job Muriuki,
>
> Skype: heviejob
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
>> Job
>>
>> Are you suggesting that Safaricom just 'gives' competitors access to
>> their platform without them paying for it? Surely not...
>>
>> This is akin to you saying that now that Tesla has become dominant in
>> Electric Cars they should give up their technology to those Neanderthals in
>> Detroit (GM, Ford etc) simply because they slept through the revolution.
>> Literally.
>>
>> I'd agree with you on this principle if you said that it makes very good
>> strategic sense for them to open up Mpesa as a Platform. That is something
>> I think that Safaricom will regret if they don't. But then it's their
>> prerogative.
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
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>>
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>>
>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
>> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 10:58 AM, Job Muriuki via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Ngigi,
>>
>> It's like you are reading from the same script as I am. I have never
>> understood why we can't use Mpesa on any other number other than a
>> Safaricom one.
>> If Airtel, et al got access to the M-pesa platform then the tale would be
>> very different. As long as Safaricom has exclusivity access to M-pesa the
>> rest will have an uphill task in making any headways in the telecom market
>> in Kenya.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Job Muriuki,
>>
>> Skype: heviejob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> .....and the way CA (formerly CCK) were hammered when they tried to do a
>>> market intervention on the basis of Safaricom dominance....SMH....
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ali,
>>>>
>>>> Analyzing why Safaricom has dominated this market in such Key areas as
>>>> Mobile Telephony, Payment Services etc is probably something that would
>>>> qualify for a PHD thesis.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I know though:
>>>> 1. Are Safaricom's Customers happy? Answer is, do they have a choice?
>>>> Go back to Microsoft's heyday, were you actually really happy with Windows
>>>> '98? Did you have a *choice*?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Yes, Safaricom could have better services than Airtel & Telkom,
>>>> although I doubt, having been a user of both Safaricom & Airtel over 15yrs.
>>>> Even if they were better, how do you reconcile that they are maybe 4 times
>>>> the size of the rest of the competition? Are they 4x better than say
>>>> Airtel? I doubt.
>>>>
>>>> Now, onto things MPesa, I think Safaricom does MPesa a great injustice
>>>> of not spinning it off. I want MPesa (with all its associated services) on
>>>> my Airtel line.
>>>>
>>>> MPesa needs to be listed on NASDAQ! MPesa needs to be the third choice
>>>> globally after VISA & Mastercard!
>>>>
>>>> But there's the not so small matter of who actually owns MPesa!
>>>>
>>>> Onto matters regulation, if I was CBK, I would be very concerned if one
>>>> such firm had that much 'power' over the money transfer market.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ngigi
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue of Mobitelea aside (because we will really never know how
>>>>> that went down) Safaricom is simply better at everything:-
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Their lobbying is simply superior and a thing of beauty to watch.
>>>>> Lobbying is an acceptable practice the world over. Please don't complain
>>>>> when your competitor is doing a better job at it than you..
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Which industry is Safaricom in? Energy? (Mkopa Solar with 500k
>>>>> subscribers simply won't have existed without the symbiotic relationship
>>>>> they have with Mpesa. And Safaricom skims off the top as per agreement);
>>>>> Banking? CBA without Mshwari is a shell; Payments?  Lipa na Mpesa is giving
>>>>> Visa and Mastercard a run for their money; TV? Zuku is about to feel real
>>>>> competition. And the list goes on.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I'm keen to see the Dominance Report because I think we need to
>>>>> expand our thinking. I don't believe there is anyone today who has
>>>>> Dominance in any particular area at least not in the traditional way we
>>>>> have defined Dominance.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. The thing of course to watch is abuse of Market Dominance.  And
>>>>> this in itself a slippery slop. Once The US Government tried to break up
>>>>> Microsoft. What the Government couldn't do the Market did. Free Markets are
>>>>> the greatest equalizer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us be careful what we wish for. In as long as the customer is
>>>>> generally happy we have nothing to fear.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>> *Principal*
>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>
>>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act
>>>>> but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 8:29 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ali,
>>>>>
>>>>> The only palatable End Game; Equitel buys off Airtel Kenya, combines
>>>>> it with Helios stake @Telkom
>>>>>
>>>>> Massive innovation thereafter would get back some respectable market
>>>>> share.
>>>>>
>>>>> Truth be told, Safaricom's cozzyiness with GoK has helped it along big
>>>>> time. I dare say if Kencell has ceded 10% to Mobitelea, as Safaricom was
>>>>> more than glad to do, we'd probably be speaking a different story right now!
>>>>>
>>>>> What these foreign firms investing in Africa need to remember is.......
>>>>>
>>>>> THIS IS AFRICA!
>>>>> On 28 Jan 2017 8:40 a.m., "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another one bites the dust?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm really curious as to whats going on in the Telco sector.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bharti Airtel has announced that it will be exiting 14 African
>>>>>> countries within a year. The affected countries include: Chad, Congo,
>>>>>> Gabon, Ghana, Kenya, Madagascar, Malawi, Niger, Nigeria, Rwanda,
>>>>>> Seychelles, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The telecom operator is faced with poor performance across those
>>>>>> markets. Two years ago, when Airtel began talks to sell off its
>>>>>> operations in Burkina Faso, Chad, Congo Brazzaville and Sierra Leone to
>>>>>> Orange
>>>>>> <http://mobilityarena.com/airtel-not-exiting-africa-despite-talks-to-sell-4-networks-to-orange/>,
>>>>>> the company had stated that it wouldn’t be exiting Africa.
>>>>>> Airtel plans Africa exit
>>>>>> <http://mobilityarena.com/airtel-exit-nigeria-13-african-countries/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the African market too competitive or is the regulatory
>>>>>> environment skewed towards a few players?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Principal*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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