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Wed Jan 11 18:24:06 EAT 2017

Does anyone know the tech intricacies of IFMIS. For instance, which
system/language is it founded on? the architecture?
This is information that may help us understand the points of weakness....

2017-01-11 17:08 GMT+03:00 Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>:

> In most govt and parastatal institutions, the ICT functions are
> outsourced. The IT staff employed there can run their own businesses
> without worrying, as long as they can escalate the arising issues to the
> company it's outsourced to.
>
>
> On 11 January 2017 at 13:42, Watila Alex via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> i am curious what is the involvement of IT staff. Kenyan IT guys have
>> implemented such systems at the utilities, telcos etc so i am sure the
>> expertise exists
>>
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>>
>> On Wed, 11 Jan, 2017 at 10:33, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> I am sure there are many professionals on the list who know the
>> intricacies and workings of IFMIS, what challenges does the system
>> have are they human, systemic or technological? My take is Human
>> Resource (Vested interests) is the problem. That said i acknowledge
>> the fact that some counties are also facing challenges with
>> connectivity impeding the effectiveness of the system. The Universal
>> Access Fund can be usefull in resolving this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 1/11/17, Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> wrote:
>> > Ifmis is defective, says former TA boss Kinuthia Wamwangi - Daily Nation
>> > http://www.nation.co.ke/counties/kericho/Ifmis-is-defective/
>> 3444860-3512338-qqbeas/
>> > via @dailynation
>> >
>> >    On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington via
>> kictanet
>> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >  Sometimes I think IFMIS (the Kenyan one)  was deliberately designed for
>> > exactly what it is being used for!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9 January 2017 at 15:45, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet
>> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>> >
>> > Monday blessings!
>> > In a town known as VAJAIBU each week, three superpower hydroplanes crash
>> > with guarantee, leaving fatalities of the spectating fans as balls of
>> fire
>> > spiral freely for miles over the land.The professional riders on board
>> as
>> > part of their safety measures have an inflammable hydro-ball that
>> insulates
>> > them in the event of any impact. Which means, the next day they carry on
>> > their act on another ride.As expected, the turnout at the spectacular
>> shows
>> > has dwindled as more and more spectators opt to go for the canoe rowers
>> > shows in the neighboring town. Surprisingly, the professional riders
>> have
>> > been crying foul as the gate collections dwindle.
>> >
>> >
>> > This must be an opportunity for the professionals. Tainting of one part
>> of
>> > how a system works has an effect on the rest, breeding suspicion. From
>> > immigration registers, money transfer, banking, healthcare records -
>> major
>> > ICT users, whether public or private, it means that there must be leaks
>> all
>> > over of citizen funds and records. Not to mention the Internet of Things
>> > which we do not even have a measure of its extensiveness.
>> > Why question the call for manual systems - this is one big example where
>> > tech seems to be designed to "work not for good" yet keeps being drummed
>> > down the citizens as the panacea for economic integrity.
>> >
>> > Blessed day.
>> > Regards/Wangari ---
>> > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored
>> > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God
>> on
>> > Earth".
>> >
>> >
>> >    On Monday, 9 January 2017, 8:11, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
>> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >  Hi Baiju and colleagues,
>> >
>> > Reading your comments, the main challenge is ethics and integrity. We
>> > have to address it even if it affects all of us. We are not short of
>> > qualified project management experts, Software Analysts and Designers
>> > as well as System Engineers.  We are not short of industry lobby
>> > groups as well, we are short on ethics and integrity.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > On 1/9/17, Baiju Shah via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >
>> wrote:
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> Well now ok about the issues with the IFMIS, can we focus on building a
>> >> better pool of business system analyst, solution design, quality
>> >> assurance
>> >> and project management. These are the key skills missing from the ICT
>> >> sector, furthermore let's not blame the customer as we all lack a
>> little
>> >> or
>> >> any amount of ethics... In reality please look at yourselves in the
>> >> mirror
>> >> and reflect when and where you individually have taken short cuts or
>> came
>> >> up
>> >> with lame reasons for non delivery. Have created issues for fellow
>> >> professionals who have won a project on merit. It my prayer that we get
>> >> out
>> >> stakeholder management sorted and develop a proper lobby group that is
>> >> given
>> >> a representation on the government projects to provide quality
>> assurance
>> >> and
>> >> assure the delivery of the project in line with the vision, mission and
>> >> scope signed off by the key stakeholders. Further provide advice on the
>> >> Correctness of the scope which requires industry expertise per
>> vertical.
>> >> Therefore, my challenge to the group is what are we doing to align the
>> >> technology with the business needs?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and have a good week,
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >> Baiju
>> >>
>> >>> On 9 Jan 2017, at 05:29, Alex Watila via kictanet
>> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> good morning,
>> >>> IFMIS is in the news again
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> State audit finds serious loopholes in Ifmis system  - Daily Nation
>> >>> https://t.co/4dPksjnJBT
>> >>>
>> >>> https://twitter.com/dailynatio n/status/818261005935448064
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3 Dec 2016 12:08, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet"
>> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>> >>> Ngigi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Nothing less than Multi Factor authentication is required in Kenya.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Multi-factor_authentication
>> >>>
>> >>> Negligence needs to be penalized (we know, in Kenya, prosecution never
>> >>> succeeds where looting succeeds).
>> >>>
>> >>> This includes negligence of local talent, not just theft. Kickbacks
>> are
>> >>> often deposited (invested) abroad. As such, foreign firms will always
>> be
>> >>> favored by crooked officials. Developed nations penalize bribery
>> because
>> >>> it compromises national pysche, skills and service delivery levels.
>> >>>
>> >>> EACC should also look for good examples to publicize.
>> >>>
>> >>> Public officials, organizations, who/which over a 24 month period,
>> have
>> >>> sourced and provided MANNED (conversation recording) hotlines, e-mail
>> >>> addresses, feedback portals and CRM's to measure, and promptly provide
>> >>> citizen services.
>> >>>
>> >>> Crooked officials have no problem with payment systems (which increase
>> >>> the
>> >>> funds they collect), but they neglect systems which measure, expose
>> >>> service delivery levels.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> SMM
>> >>>
>> >>> "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than
>> one
>> >>> who takes a city." Prov 16:32
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet
>> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>> >>> Ali,
>> >>>
>> >>> It's also time to put‎ professional blame squarely where it lies.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any system tasked with moving *huge* sums of money and that does not
>> >>> come
>> >>> with at least Two-Factor authentication be *default* is either:
>> >>> 1. A very, very bad implementation
>> >>> 2. ‎Intentionally left unsecure to allow looting.
>> >>>
>> >>> Blaming users & ethics in our users is just looking for  scapegoats.
>> >>> Citibank, Stanchart & other Financial Institutions do not rely on user
>> >>> ethics when using their online banking platforms. You key in your
>> >>> password, for every transaction, you confirm using your 2FA Code,
>> >>> ensuring
>> >>> it's only you, or someone you gave your physical 2FA card that can
>> >>> authenticate that transaction.
>> >>>
>> >>> And that's before you put in anti-laundering functionality, which
>> should
>> >>> catch most of those transactions dead in their tracks if well
>> >>> implemented.
>> >>> E.g before payment of sums above KSH 100m cross-check on company
>> >>> registration date, if less than 1 year, flag! Common addresses,
>> >>> Directors
>> >>> btn different firms.
>> >>>
>> >>> ‎Online payments in Kenya have been with us since the early 2000s, why
>> >>> is
>> >>> it we've never heard complaints from the Banks that billions are being
>> >>> lost through basic identity fraud similar to IFMIS.
>> >>>
>> >>> Don't blame the Kenyan people, blame lies squarely with the Systems we
>> >>> have put in place.
>> >>>
>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi
>> >>>
>> >>> Alliance Technologies
>> >>> www.at.co.ke
>> >>> From: Ali Hussein via kictanet
>> >>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:33 AM
>> >>> To: Ngigi Waithaka
>> >>> Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> >>> Cc: Ali Hussein
>> >>> Subject: [kictanet] KISERO: Kenya’s corruption tsars have perfected
>> >>> looting through Ifmis - Daily Nation
>> >>>
>> >>> Listers
>> >>>
>> >>> Related to to the discussion of 'reigning in' quacks in the ICT Sector
>> >>> how
>> >>> do you explain the fiasco that is IFMIS?
>> >>>
>> >>> Except from the article:-
>> >>>
>> >>> In theory, the Ifmis system we have is based on Oracle E-Business
>> Suite,
>> >>> an accounting package developed by Oracle of the USA. In reality, what
>> >>> is
>> >>> in place is a product of conspiracies between crafty government
>> >>> officials
>> >>> and local rent-seeking software merchants.
>> >>>
>> >>> Through highly inflated and ill-conceived customisation and
>> >>> re-engineering
>> >>> projects, the merchants have colluded with public officials to create
>> a
>> >>> mongrel of the original Oracle E-Business Suite.
>> >>>
>> >>> This is the system at the heart of corruption in the public sector.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/O pinion/Kenya-corruption-tsars-
>> >>> have-perfected-looting-through -Ifmis/440808-3469632-kg5rbv/
>> >>>
>> >>> So if we were to talk this discussion a step further:-
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. The customization of an Oracle E-Business Suite cannot be done by a
>> >>> 'quack' who isn't a Certified Oracle Software Engineer.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. The customization must be approved by the client and mapped with
>> the
>> >>> business processes mutually agreed by the vendor and the customer. In
>> >>> this
>> >>> case the government.
>> >>>
>> >>> A pig is a pig even if you apply lipstick on it. Let's call this what
>> it
>> >>> is - Corruption. Period. Perpetuated in this case by the client and
>> >>> using
>> >>> qualified IT Professionals. We in the industry must call out the ones
>> >>> who
>> >>> collude to fleece this country instead of chasing a red herring in the
>> >>> name of 'quacks'!
>> >>>
>> >>> Ali Hussein
>> >>> Principal
>> >>> Hussein & Associates
>> >>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>> >>>
>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alih kassim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>> >>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>> >>>
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>> >>>
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