[kictanet] KISERO: Kenya’s corruption tsars have perfected looting through Ifmis - Daily Nation

Wed Jan 11 14:31:45 EAT 2017

Exactly Alex,

Regards
On Jan 11, 2017 1:46 PM, "Watila Alex" <awatila at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> i am curious what is the involvement of IT staff. Kenyan IT guys have
> implemented such systems at the utilities, telcos etc so i am sure the
> expertise exists
>
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> On Wed, 11 Jan, 2017 at 10:33, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> I am sure there are many professionals on the list who know the
> intricacies and workings of IFMIS, what challenges does the system
> have are they human, systemic or technological? My take is Human
> Resource (Vested interests) is the problem. That said i acknowledge
> the fact that some counties are also facing challenges with
> connectivity impeding the effectiveness of the system. The Universal
> Access Fund can be usefull in resolving this.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> On 1/11/17, Watila Alex via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
> > Ifmis is defective, says former TA boss Kinuthia Wamwangi - Daily Nation
> > http://www.nation.co.ke/counties/kericho/Ifmis-is-
> defective/3444860-3512338-qqbeas/
> > via @dailynation
> >
> >    On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 10:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington via
> kictanet
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Sometimes I think IFMIS (the Kenyan one)  was deliberately designed for
> > exactly what it is being used for!
> >
> >
> > On 9 January 2017 at 15:45, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >
> > Monday blessings!
> > In a town known as VAJAIBU each week, three superpower hydroplanes crash
> > with guarantee, leaving fatalities of the spectating fans as balls of
> fire
> > spiral freely for miles over the land.The professional riders on board as
> > part of their safety measures have an inflammable hydro-ball that
> insulates
> > them in the event of any impact. Which means, the next day they carry on
> > their act on another ride.As expected, the turnout at the spectacular
> shows
> > has dwindled as more and more spectators opt to go for the canoe rowers
> > shows in the neighboring town. Surprisingly, the professional riders have
> > been crying foul as the gate collections dwindle.
> >
> >
> > This must be an opportunity for the professionals. Tainting of one part
> of
> > how a system works has an effect on the rest, breeding suspicion. From
> > immigration registers, money transfer, banking, healthcare records -
> major
> > ICT users, whether public or private, it means that there must be leaks
> all
> > over of citizen funds and records. Not to mention the Internet of Things
> > which we do not even have a measure of its extensiveness.
> > Why question the call for manual systems - this is one big example where
> > tech seems to be designed to "work not for good" yet keeps being drummed
> > down the citizens as the panacea for economic integrity.
> >
> > Blessed day.
> > Regards/Wangari ---
> > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored
> > Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on
> > Earth".
> >
> >
> >    On Monday, 9 January 2017, 8:11, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Hi Baiju and colleagues,
> >
> > Reading your comments, the main challenge is ethics and integrity. We
> > have to address it even if it affects all of us. We are not short of
> > qualified project management experts, Software Analysts and Designers
> > as well as System Engineers.  We are not short of industry lobby
> > groups as well, we are short on ethics and integrity.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On 1/9/17, Baiju Shah via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >
> wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Well now ok about the issues with the IFMIS, can we focus on building a
> >> better pool of business system analyst, solution design, quality
> >> assurance
> >> and project management. These are the key skills missing from the ICT
> >> sector, furthermore let's not blame the customer as we all lack a little
> >> or
> >> any amount of ethics... In reality please look at yourselves in the
> >> mirror
> >> and reflect when and where you individually have taken short cuts or
> came
> >> up
> >> with lame reasons for non delivery. Have created issues for fellow
> >> professionals who have won a project on merit. It my prayer that we get
> >> out
> >> stakeholder management sorted and develop a proper lobby group that is
> >> given
> >> a representation on the government projects to provide quality assurance
> >> and
> >> assure the delivery of the project in line with the vision, mission and
> >> scope signed off by the key stakeholders. Further provide advice on the
> >> Correctness of the scope which requires industry expertise per vertical.
> >> Therefore, my challenge to the group is what are we doing to align the
> >> technology with the business needs?
> >>
> >> Thanks and have a good week,
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Baiju
> >>
> >>> On 9 Jan 2017, at 05:29, Alex Watila via kictanet
> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> good morning,
> >>> IFMIS is in the news again
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> State audit finds serious loopholes in Ifmis system  - Daily Nation
> >>> https://t.co/4dPksjnJBT
> >>>
> >>> https://twitter.com/dailynatio n/status/818261005935448064
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3 Dec 2016 12:08, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet"
> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >>> Ngigi,
> >>>
> >>> Nothing less than Multi Factor authentication is required in Kenya.
> >>>
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Multi-factor_authentication
> >>>
> >>> Negligence needs to be penalized (we know, in Kenya, prosecution never
> >>> succeeds where looting succeeds).
> >>>
> >>> This includes negligence of local talent, not just theft. Kickbacks are
> >>> often deposited (invested) abroad. As such, foreign firms will always
> be
> >>> favored by crooked officials. Developed nations penalize bribery
> because
> >>> it compromises national pysche, skills and service delivery levels.
> >>>
> >>> EACC should also look for good examples to publicize.
> >>>
> >>> Public officials, organizations, who/which over a 24 month period, have
> >>> sourced and provided MANNED (conversation recording) hotlines, e-mail
> >>> addresses, feedback portals and CRM's to measure, and promptly provide
> >>> citizen services.
> >>>
> >>> Crooked officials have no problem with payment systems (which increase
> >>> the
> >>> funds they collect), but they neglect systems which measure, expose
> >>> service delivery levels.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SMM
> >>>
> >>> "Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
> >>> who takes a city." Prov 16:32
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet
> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
> >>> Ali,
> >>>
> >>> It's also time to put‎ professional blame squarely where it lies.
> >>>
> >>> Any system tasked with moving *huge* sums of money and that does not
> >>> come
> >>> with at least Two-Factor authentication be *default* is either:
> >>> 1. A very, very bad implementation
> >>> 2. ‎Intentionally left unsecure to allow looting.
> >>>
> >>> Blaming users & ethics in our users is just looking for  scapegoats.
> >>> Citibank, Stanchart & other Financial Institutions do not rely on user
> >>> ethics when using their online banking platforms. You key in your
> >>> password, for every transaction, you confirm using your 2FA Code,
> >>> ensuring
> >>> it's only you, or someone you gave your physical 2FA card that can
> >>> authenticate that transaction.
> >>>
> >>> And that's before you put in anti-laundering functionality, which
> should
> >>> catch most of those transactions dead in their tracks if well
> >>> implemented.
> >>> E.g before payment of sums above KSH 100m cross-check on company
> >>> registration date, if less than 1 year, flag! Common addresses,
> >>> Directors
> >>> btn different firms.
> >>>
> >>> ‎Online payments in Kenya have been with us since the early 2000s, why
> >>> is
> >>> it we've never heard complaints from the Banks that billions are being
> >>> lost through basic identity fraud similar to IFMIS.
> >>>
> >>> Don't blame the Kenyan people, blame lies squarely with the Systems we
> >>> have put in place.
> >>>
> >>> Waithaka Ngigi
> >>>
> >>> Alliance Technologies
> >>> www.at.co.ke
> >>> From: Ali Hussein via kictanet
> >>> Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:33 AM
> >>> To: Ngigi Waithaka
> >>> Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> >>> Cc: Ali Hussein
> >>> Subject: [kictanet] KISERO: Kenya’s corruption tsars have perfected
> >>> looting through Ifmis - Daily Nation
> >>>
> >>> Listers
> >>>
> >>> Related to to the discussion of 'reigning in' quacks in the ICT Sector
> >>> how
> >>> do you explain the fiasco that is IFMIS?
> >>>
> >>> Except from the article:-
> >>>
> >>> In theory, the Ifmis system we have is based on Oracle E-Business
> Suite,
> >>> an accounting package developed by Oracle of the USA. In reality, what
> >>> is
> >>> in place is a product of conspiracies between crafty government
> >>> officials
> >>> and local rent-seeking software merchants.
> >>>
> >>> Through highly inflated and ill-conceived customisation and
> >>> re-engineering
> >>> projects, the merchants have colluded with public officials to create a
> >>> mongrel of the original Oracle E-Business Suite.
> >>>
> >>> This is the system at the heart of corruption in the public sector.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/O pinion/Kenya-corruption-tsars-
> >>> have-perfected-looting-through -Ifmis/440808-3469632-kg5rbv/
> >>>
> >>> So if we were to talk this discussion a step further:-
> >>>
> >>> 1. The customization of an Oracle E-Business Suite cannot be done by a
> >>> 'quack' who isn't a Certified Oracle Software Engineer.
> >>>
> >>> 2. The customization must be approved by the client and mapped with the
> >>> business processes mutually agreed by the vendor and the customer. In
> >>> this
> >>> case the government.
> >>>
> >>> A pig is a pig even if you apply lipstick on it. Let's call this what
> it
> >>> is - Corruption. Period. Perpetuated in this case by the client and
> >>> using
> >>> qualified IT Professionals. We in the industry must call out the ones
> >>> who
> >>> collude to fleece this country instead of chasing a red herring in the
> >>> name of 'quacks'!
> >>>
> >>> Ali Hussein
> >>> Principal
> >>> Hussein & Associates
> >>> +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
> >>>
> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
> >>> Skype: abu-jomo
> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alih kassim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
> >>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
> >>>
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