[kictanet] IoT - Banned In Germany: Kids' Doll Is Labeled An Espionage Device

Sat Feb 18 06:28:33 EAT 2017

Warm greetings!
Keeping with the drift as per article below, while deflecting a bit, what is Kenya's IoT stand? Alwala Rachel &Wambua Christopher perhaps you may enlighten.

PS: For the speak to the telcos discussion;Q: Are simcards and the phones and masts or other gadgets (especially the special offer ones) IoTed?If so why? If not why not? Is it expected? What is the consumer information? What is the consumer option? Opt-out or it means being locked out?
Have a blessed day.
Regards/Wangari ---
Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".

    On Saturday, 18 February 2017, 0:31, Alex Gakuru via isoc <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

 Or let's just spy on kids? http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/17/515775874/banned-in-germany-kids-doll-is-labeled-an-espionage-device

Banned In Germany: Kids' Doll Is Labeled An Espionage Device
 February 17, 201711:51 AM ET  
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru at gmail.com> wrote:

What the heck? Here's a bonus reference for your enjoyment: 

The UK government seems to be attempting to significantly deepen its potential surveillance access.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charg er_gagging_order/

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru at gmail.com> wrote:

Some myopic viewsthrough shallow news coverage often peddled by sponsored interestssleeper agents often masquerading as innocent, kind andpublic-interest caring souls can be quite irritating more than. mitigating which hereinshall embark on offering evidence as to why we all need to rise up inarms against privacy violation in Kenya. There comes a time whenfighting and shooting straight between the eyes is our civic duty farfrom the luxury of administering it sugar coated. YES!!
So the Kenyan‘government is to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit’ –Its so how scaring! They will listen to all our calls, read our SMSand review al our mobile money transactions. Now about to faint,damn! Thank heavens for 40 per cent UK Vodafone-owned Safaricom forexpressing concerns on imminent privacy violation by snoopy Kenyangovernment. What would have become of us without this gallant publicprivacy caring mobile operator, never mind their Mobitelea founderssecret (or was it ‘privacy’) history? Anyway, who cares –sometimes it never hurts to obfuscate secrecy with privacy to achievethose greater benefits.Oh! by the way, notforgetting that the new competition rules drawn by the CommunicationsAuthority were cooked up solely to hurt this our precioustelecommunications private monopoly and therefore our collective furyat the regulator must send a very strong signal to any jealous personwhom dares attack their hard-earned success from years of investmenton innovative products and services. Needless to say, our local babyof UK-domiciled Vodafone Group last year boasted assets worth £133.7(KShs 17.3 trillion) total equity of £65.88 billion ( Kshs 8.5trillion) and annual revenue of £40.97 (Kshs 5.3 trillion) makingmockery of Kenya’s 2016/2017 total expenditure of Kshs 2.05trillion, or in other words, our entire national budget is no morethan just a fraction of the net worth of mighty Vodafone value.What a digressionfrom the original privacy discourse, when all aware that the Britishgovernment stands accused of breaking the law by forcing telecoms andinternet providers to retain records of phone calls, texts andinternet usage, months after Europe's highest court said that suchdata retention breaches citizens' fundamental right to privacycontrary to Data Retention (EC Direction) Act of 2009. 
But at this pointengage selective amnesia and choose to forget Hon. Edward Snowden’srevelation of the ‘Five Eyes’ surveillance programme comprisingAustrlia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and United States –because you see? It’s easier to punch at weak Kenya governmentalleged snooping while steering off the unberably crazy internationalsurveillance arrangements considering that, what the heck, even civilsociety gets donor funding from those rich countries so it helps notto bite the hand that feeds us. OK, agree we all keep it local not toantagonise the sleeping dog – it could wake up and bite us. Which compels a move on to another issue.Facebooks users are'Dumb Fucks', or so admitted Facebook CEO as he mocked early Facebookusers for trusting him with their personal information. "Theytrust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg in one of the instantmessages, firstpublished by former Valleywag Nicholas Carlson at Silicon AlleyInsider. But forgive him since he thinks he’s grown and learned alot. 
What about Google,Microsoft, Apple, ad infinitum – all US firms we are all very finetrusting with our very, very very personal data? Does US have therights to all your Google & FB data? Find out here. And did you know The Trade In Services Agreement (TISA / TiSA),currently being negotiated among 50 countries, if passed would:   
   - prohibit regulations on the financial industry;  
   - eliminate laws to safeguard online or digital privacy;  
   - render illegal any 'buy local' rules at any level of government;  
   - effectively dismantle any public advantages to be derived from state-owned enterprises; and  
   - eliminate net neutrality. 
Shocking information here.OK, this is notgoing as initially wanted, because the bigger fear out there isunberable. And therefore, I shall revert to my original plan ofpraising our local wonderful privacy champion Safaricom airing worryover fake mobile monitoring plan by snoopy GoK through CommunicationsAuthority of Kenyafor I don’t care what happens out there in the global arena.Choosing to adopt the phrase, ‘what you don’t know cannot hurtyou.’ Indeed, 'Free is a Lie' –Aral Balkan 
 If you doubt my strong evidence do contact the source references cited.
addios 
Gakuru

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Barrack Otieno via isoc <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Rapudo,I thought so too. Looking forwad to the clarification by the Communications Authority.RegardsOn Feb 17, 2017 11:08 AM, "Rapudo Hawi via isoc" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Listers,
It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010. 
The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security 
Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner, 
Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert

Telephone: +254 720975498
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly. 
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Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM
To: Christoper Wambua <wambua at ca.go.ke>
Cc: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc at lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >
Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation

What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...

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On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu at gmail.com> wrote:

But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? 
The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010.
If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy?
Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> wrote:

Listers
>From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.Read on:-http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html
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