[kictanet] Day 2 on Fake News: Platform Responsibility

anyega jefferson jeffersonanyega at gmail.com
Fri Aug 18 14:33:26 EAT 2017


http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/08/kenya-latest-victim-fake-news-170816121455181.html


Interesting read.

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> what about when fake news is 'closed loop' like via whats app where it is
> only relayed to a closed group of recipients and there is no apparently
> obvious way to ensure it is pulled down?
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Grace Mutung'u via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> @ Peter Mbatha, maybe the focus is on media because media has been our
>> primary source of news for ages. In previous discussions, media was
>> identified as a key player in combating fake news because they can provide
>> reliable news.
>> However, there are many other avenues for solving the problem including
>> user education (was discussed on day one) and platform responsibility (day
>> 2). If other resolutions are being missed out, please point them out.
>>
>> On to your questions, the actors in my view are the political and many
>> who talk of propaganda as the ancestor of fake news seem to agree. The
>> purpose of fake news in our case seems to be polarisation of society and I
>> think that NCIC as the body charged with promoting cohesion of our nation
>> could play a role in combating it. The "when" would be that there was a
>> rise during the electioneering season in the same magnitude as Brexit in UK
>> and US 2016 elections. Where is of course on the Internet/social media and
>> even traditional media like radios etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> 2017-08-18 7:59 GMT+03:00 Peter Mbatha via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>:
>>
>>> Good morning listers,
>>>
>>> Been thinking about the discussion we have been doing for the last few
>>> days and hadn't given my opinion yet.
>>>
>>> Yes!  Come to think of it and tell whether we will ever get to the
>>> bottom of this issue labeled 'FAKE NEWS' after these long listed
>>> debates. We have had a good time to critically share on the issue but it
>>> ain't going to be resolved as soon as you may think.
>>>
>>> Besides the different opinions on the issues raised by 'MERCY MUTEMI',
>>>  we need to start by seeing the actors and actuators and of such alleged
>>> malpractices.
>>>
>>>  1. Who?
>>>  2. Why?
>>>  3. When?
>>>  4. Where?
>>>
>>> This is because we already have the 'what? = fake news '.
>>>
>>> The scenario won't be at all acomodative for the discussion because we
>>> have a BIG bias in what we are discussing already. We have within our
>>> capacity started accusing the agents(singked out media) who are actuators
>>> of the 'what'  in the above diacussion. This has labbel us as initiators of
>>> a good will which doesn't have a foundation and you exactly know what will
>>> happen; at the end of the day no outcome will be worth the time spent here.
>>>
>>> Once we are done,  with the above(we need to stop labelling media only
>>> in this) then the below
>>>
>>> *(a) What is the effect of Fake News to the mainstream media?*
>>> *(b) **What is the role of the Kenyan media in combating Fake News?*
>>> *(c) **Is the Kenyan media doing enough?*
>>> *(d) **What should platforms such as Facebook and Google be doing to
>>> reduce the effect of Fake News? Is there a need for localised solutions?*
>>>
>>> These raised questions will get answers that will lead to a conclusion
>>> and summary that will address the issue totally.
>>>
>>> Thank-you all.
>>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2017 07:00, "Du Toit, Jaco via kictanet" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes journalists have a role but also editors and media houses.
>>>> Regards.  Jaco
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+j.dutoit=
>>>> unesco.org at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Churchill Otieno via
>>>> kictanet
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 17, 2017 9:58 PM
>>>> *To:* Du Toit, Jaco <j.dutoit at unesco.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Churchill Otieno <cotieno at gmail.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Day 2 on Fake News: Platform Responsibility
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What can journalists/media do? It might be helpful to note that the
>>>> International Centre for Journalists (ICJF) is leading a global search to
>>>> find clever things newsrooms around the world are doing, that may give
>>>> truth the energy needed to compete or outpace fake news. What's emerging is
>>>> that fake news feeds off emotions that it's recipients have already
>>>> invested in, hence it has an almost opiumish pull. I'm part of this
>>>> endeavor and we are also seeing quite some committed journalists, some in
>>>> solo efforts, going hard to defend truth. Though it's still early days,
>>>> expect some announcements in the coming weeks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Aug 2017, at 17:17, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One of the proposals made yesterday was that platforms should pull down
>>>> Fake News posts. Is this a desirable approach?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Eric Mugendi via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's my two cents on this from a fact checker's perspective:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *(a) What is the effect of Fake News to the mainstream media?*
>>>> Fake news tends to distract audiences and divert their attention away
>>>> from the truth. It often mimics real news and taps into our biases and
>>>> prejudices. If you see a fake story that says something you have long
>>>> suspected to be true, even if the evidence appears dodgy, you are more
>>>> willing to share it than another story that says the opposite of what you
>>>> believe. As a resuly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *(b) What is the role of the Kenyan media in combating Fake News?*
>>>> Kenyan media has the double role of debunking fake stories and
>>>> propagating the truth. It is not enough to just point at a story and say
>>>> that it is false, the burden is then on the media to point out the truth.
>>>> They can do this by actively fact-checking the stories that are in the
>>>> public domain, rather than just the stories they publish. Given the amount
>>>> of trust that Kenyans have in mainstream media, one critical service that
>>>> the media can do is to check what they write to make sure it is legitimate.
>>>> They can also give members of the public an avenue to quickly check whether
>>>> the stories they see on social media or receive via messaging apps are true
>>>> before they share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *(c) Is the Kenyan media doing enough?*
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so. A lot of times the fake stories that do get around
>>>> tend to colour the narrative, so to speak, so in the end, you have a
>>>> distracted media unwilling to invest resources into holding the things
>>>> politicians and other public figures say, or what is published on social
>>>> media for instance. Fact-checking is a continuous process, and it is
>>>> essential in order to ensure that everyone is held accountable for what
>>>> they say. So far, the media
>>>>
>>>> *(d) What should platforms such as Facebook and Google be doing to
>>>> reduce the effect of Fake News? Is there a need for localised solutions?*
>>>>
>>>> Facebook and Google are inherently neutral in this, in my opinion. This
>>>> does not absolve them from the fact that their platforms are used to
>>>> distribute fake news and other questionable stories. They have initiated
>>>> methods to check verification, with Google adding a 'This story has been
>>>> verified' tag on search results, and Facebook adding a banner on their site
>>>> with information on how to verify if a story is legit, but these
>>>> initiatives have a limited reach, given the fact that much of our news
>>>> content falls outside their radar.
>>>>
>>>> As a result, we definitely need localized solutions. There are some
>>>> like Nation's Newsplex that have taken on the task, along with the
>>>> fact-checking segment on the Sunday news on NTV. However, seeing as these
>>>> initiatives are part of the media establishment, they are unlikely to be
>>>> critical of their own coverage. Truly independent initiatives such as
>>>> PesaCheck <http://pesacheck.org> which I work on, and AfricaCheck, are
>>>> able to navigate the space in a truly neutral way, and we are gaining some
>>>> attention from the public. There is a need for more local initiatives
>>>> because there are significant gaps in coverage, meaning that we can only do
>>>> so much with the claims that we check.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Eric Mugendi*
>>>>
>>>> about.me/mugendi
>>>>
>>>> [image: Eric Mugendi on about.me]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 August 2017 at 16:22, anyega jefferson via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I believe platforms must be held accountable. If a legal entity trades
>>>> in information, then it should have a responsibility to protect its
>>>> consumers.
>>>>
>>>> However, this may require a rethink of their role as non-publishers.
>>>>
>>>> If, Mark Zuckerberg runs for POTUS, as it remotely seems, he will have
>>>> to contend with accusations of punishing alternative views and infringing
>>>> on free speech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 17, 2017 14:11, "kanini mutemi via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good morning Listers.
>>>>
>>>> It's another great day to talk about Fake News! Day 1 we focused on the
>>>> prevalence of Fake News and the role of different stakeholders in combating
>>>> it. Now we move to *Platform Responsibility. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For those who are just joining us, KICTANet is carrying out a three day
>>>> online engagement with the National Cohesion and Integration Commission
>>>> (NCIC) on how to deal with Fake News. Feel free to share your proposals on
>>>> possible interventions.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some questions to guide our discussion today:
>>>>
>>>> *(a) What is the effect of Fake News to the mainstream media?*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *(b) What is the role of the Kenyan media in combating Fake News?*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *(c) Is the Kenyan media doing enough? *
>>>>
>>>> *(d) What should platforms such as Facebook and Google be doing to
>>>> reduce the effect of Fake News? Is there a need for localised solutions?*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fire away.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Mercy Mutemi*.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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