[kictanet] Talk to NCIC Day 1: Users and Fake News

Wed Aug 16 22:32:34 EAT 2017

yes , like the Chase bank story, weren't we told that it was a false alarm
yet in the end investigations proved that there was actually a big problem
in the bank?

-Regards

Tracy Kadesa,
LL.B ,University of Nairobi.
Dip KSL
 legalwalk.wordpress.com

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:08 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Thank you Jefferson and Juliet.
>
> Let me flip this a little. There has been mention of '*guarding the
> truth'* and '*repurcussions for spreading Fake News' *
>
> The pivotal point from which to judge Fake News is the truth. But who is
> standing at the pivot? Who decides what the truth is? We have seen
> instances where the government has been quick to dismiss media reports as
> Fake News even when they are true. Wouldn't a repurcussions-based approach
> threaten the freedom of expression and impose a gag on the media. (The
> Computer and Cybercrimes Bill, 2017 goes as far as criminalizing Fake News)
>
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 17:54 anyega jefferson via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> I believe Facebook and such platforms should have a public duty to
>> protect members of the public. "To whom that much is given, then much
>> should be expected". Nation states should create laws that require such
>> platforms to delete Fake News content sites/pages/handles when they are
>> reported. The thing is, Fake News can be a public safety, national security
>> issue. We are witnessing attempts by Other countries to influences how
>> their adversary states elect  people or engage with each other. Fake News
>> should be treated the way we treat fake products and services, as injurious
>> to the well-being of consumers and harmful to the entities they seek to
>> imitate.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:37 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Barack.
>>>
>>> @Rosemary said:
>>>
>>>   *All categories of users have one role calling out fake news, *
>>>
>>> Allow me to give a Fake News example for simulation purposes.
>>>
>>> This site:
>>>
>>> nasacloud.co.ke
>>>
>>> Now we can obviously tell this is a Fake News site despite the amount of
>>> effort that went into making it look legitimate. .
>>>
>>> How can we make sure such sites do not pop up?  How do we 'call it out'?
>>> Is calling them out enough or is further effort necessary to make sure they
>>> are pulled down? In this example- what should the different players do?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 15:50 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mercy,
>>>>
>>>> There was a lot of hue and cry over the states involvement in politics
>>>> during the just concluded election. It is normally said that politics
>>>> is a dirty game. Because certain organs of the state were involved in
>>>> the political process, they got stained and will have a had time
>>>> removing the stain. The only difference this time round as Grace and
>>>> Ali stated was extensive use of Social Media and data mining to
>>>> circulate propaganda.
>>>>
>>>> By the way i got messages from my local member of Parliament through
>>>> USSD asking me to elect him. This points to the misuse of customer
>>>> data or information and calls for the immediate enactment of the data
>>>> protection act. I would also propose the need for a stand alone
>>>> consumer protection act in light of emerging trends.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards
>>>>
>>>> On 8/16/17, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Thank you all. I really like the well-thought out contributions so
>>>> far.
>>>> > @Ali allow me to zero in on something you brought out:
>>>> >
>>>> > * 'the biggest culprits of Fake News the world over are State
>>>> Players'. *
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like for us to expound on this a little further in our Kenyan
>>>> > context. It is important that we diagnose the problem accurately so
>>>> as to
>>>> > address it comprehensively.
>>>> >
>>>> > What are some of the ways in which the State has been culpable in the
>>>> Fake
>>>> > News conundrum? Similarly, what role did the political parties play?
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet
>>>> <
>>>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dear Listers,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We live in an age unprecedented information and different parties
>>>> will
>>>> >> want to to sway opinions. Fake news provides fertile ground for
>>>> anyone
>>>> >> who
>>>> >> wants to take control of conversations.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> a) Why is there an increase in the prevalence of Fake News recently?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> One can judge how their audience will receive a specific piece of
>>>> >> information in any circumstance so fake news becomes a tool that can
>>>> be
>>>> >> used to manipulate audiences, why wait for events to report on when
>>>> you
>>>> >> can
>>>> >> create your own news?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> (b) What is the role of different categories of users in combating
>>>> Fake
>>>> >> News?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> All categories of users have one role calling our fake news,
>>>> otherwise if
>>>> >> we can't tell the difference between fake or real news then all news
>>>> will
>>>> >> very soon become irrelevant. All stakeholders must ensure the truth
>>>> is
>>>> >> upheld in all circumstances.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> (c) Have Kenyans given up or are there good practices in combating
>>>> Fake
>>>> >> News?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There is a large group of Kenyans who cannot tell real from fake
>>>> news,
>>>> >> some of us may spot it really fast or even research to verify, in the
>>>> >> interest of those who easily fall victim there must be a concerted
>>>> effort
>>>> >> to flag perpetrators of fake news.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> (d) Is Fake News a manifestation of deeper societal issues and if
>>>> so, are
>>>> >> there ways of combating it other than resolving the societal issues?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We may be unable to resolve the societal issues as these evolve from
>>>> day
>>>> >> to day, the last line of defense for what is right is protecting the
>>>> >> truth,
>>>> >> we all thought increased access to information would solve societal
>>>> >> problems however we  have also created an abyss of disinformation
>>>> and we
>>>> >> must work to correct this.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *(e) We have Bloggers who are seen as influencers. Do they have a
>>>> higher
>>>> >> duty when communicating?*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Influencers surely do have a higher duty however other technical
>>>> >> stakeholders must work overtime to protect the integrity of news for
>>>> >> example pulling down fake websites that purport to be legitimate news
>>>> >> sites.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We must work really hard to protect the integrity of information
>>>> mediums
>>>> >> and combating fake news must be made a priority.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Kind regards,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:02 AM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <
>>>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Good morning Listers,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Let me start of by thanking NCIC for their willingness to engage on
>>>> this
>>>> >>> issue. We look forward to a a great discussion and pragmatic
>>>> proposals.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We had a discussion on this during the PRE KIGF ONLINE DISCUSSION
>>>> DAY 2-
>>>> >>> FAKE NEWS DURING ELECTIONEERING.
>>>> >>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxmvjvsBlX3dUmVfS3IyaTdkZ0U/view>
>>>> >>> I will say at that time, the impact of Fake News was not apparent.
>>>> Times
>>>> >>> have since changed as we have now witnessed numerous 'Fake News'
>>>> posts
>>>> >>> which go viral within minutes. Following the election results,
>>>> posts on
>>>> >>> alleged instances of violence and of government action in parts of
>>>> the
>>>> >>> country have dominated social media platforms. On several occasions,
>>>> >>> government officials, media houses and diligent citizens have come
>>>> >>> forward
>>>> >>> to denounce these posts as 'Fake News'. Photos that were first
>>>> presented
>>>> >>> as
>>>> >>> true accounts of the situation on the ground were later discovered
>>>> to be
>>>> >>> old photos of past events. At the same time, there have been
>>>> instances
>>>> >>> where posts were quickly dismissed as 'Fake News' even when there
>>>> was
>>>> >>> evidence later on that they were indeed factual reports. There is
>>>> >>> therefore
>>>> >>> a need for us to navigate through this issue carefully.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Just for the record, it was agreed previously that the definition
>>>> we are
>>>> >>> working with is Fake News refers to disinformation which GG aptly
>>>> put as:
>>>> >>> *fabricated
>>>> >>> news that has no basis in fact, but is presented as being factually
>>>> >>> accurate. *
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> With this in mind, I invite you to engage on the questions below:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *(a) Why is there an increase in the prevalence of Fake News
>>>> recently?*
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *(b) What is the role of different categories of users in combating
>>>> Fake
>>>> >>> News?*
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *(c) Have Kenyans given up or are there good practices in combating
>>>> Fake
>>>> >>> News?*
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *(d) Is Fake News a manifestation of deeper societal issues and if
>>>> so,
>>>> >>> are there ways of combating it other than resolving the societal
>>>> >>> issues?*
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> *(e) We have Bloggers who are seen as influencers. Do they have a
>>>> higher
>>>> >>> duty when communicating?*
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --
>>>> >>> *Mercy Mutemi*.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
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>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>>>> >> Advocate
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>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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>> --
>> Anyega M Jefferson
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Start where you are,use what you have and do what you can.
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> *Mercy Mutemi, Advocate*.
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