[kictanet] ICANN Accountability Test Case

Bonface Witaba bswitaba at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Nov 15 11:18:37 EAT 2016 

Hello listers!
An interesting reading: https://afilias.info/blogs/web-icanns-first-test-accountability
Regards
Bonface Witaba

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  1. Re: Permission Marketing and misuse of customer data by
      Telcos (Ali Hussein)


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Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:22:51 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Permission Marketing and misuse of customer
    data by Telcos
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:-)

Public Service bro..:-)

Ali Hussein
Principal
Hussein & Associates
+254 0713 601113 

Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim


"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi

Sent from my iPad

> On 15 Nov 2016, at 8:55 AM, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> Ali, ...but what a performance!  How much time did you spend on
> sorting it out and 'getting your money back'?  You should also be
> compensated (at your hourly rate) for your time! ;)
> 
> Cheers,
> Tony
> 
> 
>> On 15/11/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> Rosemary and all
>> 
>> Nancy Matimu, Safaricom's Consumer Head of Products has been super
>> responsive to my complaints and I'm happy to say that all the subscriptions
>> that I had purported to have subscribed to have been deleted and monies
>> refunded. Further more Nancy has promised to:-
>> 
>> 1. Deal with such complaints with her team.
>> 2. Promised to look into rogue activity by their Content Partners and take
>> stern action against any culprits.
>> 3. Hold a meeting with all their partners at the end of this month to
>> sensitize them and warn them against such rogue activities.
>> 
>> I'd encourage all of us to engage her team in rooting out this illegal
>> activity.
>> 
>> We need more of these interactions between consumers and companies like
>> Safaricom.
>> 
>> Thank you all.
>> 
>> Ali Hussein
>> Principal
>> Hussein & Associates
>> +254 0713 601113
>> 
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> 
>> 
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what
>> no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 12:13 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rosemary
>>> 
>>> Can't agree with you more. Safaricom has engaged but I feel that this
>>> issue is. Dry widespread. Action needs to be taken..
>>> 
>>> Ali Hussein
>>> Principal
>>> Hussein & Associates
>>> +254 0713 601113
>>> 
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 11:54 AM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu
>>>> <chemukoechk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Listers,
>>>> 
>>>> I have also fallen victim to the gaming charges which were apparently
>>>> approved online. The following must happen:-
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Regular updates of all the services one is subscribed to and it should
>>>> not be the responsibility of the user to inquire.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. All other suppliers send regular updates on charges for services/goods
>>>> consumed, there is absolutely no reason why charges should be made
>>>> blindly. Telcos el al are not exempt.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Failure to the above then we have the right to take legal action
>>>> against all the parties involved in this rip off. There's clearly an
>>>> abuse of consumer rights and misuse of customers' private information.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Nov 2016 11:37, "Ali Hussein via kictanet"
>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>> It would really help to get a comment from the following players:-
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Telcos
>>>>> 2. PRSPs/CSPs
>>>>> 3. Regulator
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>> Principal
>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>> 
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>>>>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 11:19 AM, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet
>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looks like this isn't an isolated event, but could point to a more far
>>>>>> reaching abuse of consumer rights. Kindly follow up with your provider
>>>>>> as Ali and I would suggest that the regulators and the licencees
>>>>>> thoroughly investigate this and provide direction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2016 11:06, "Collins Areba via kictanet"
>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>> See attached.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Collins Areba
>>>>>>>> <arebacollins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have airtel data Sim cards and on inspecting the messages, was
>>>>>>>> subscribed to and receive weekly deductions on some weird competition
>>>>>>>> I hardly would have subscribed. And these are data lines purely used
>>>>>>>> for data.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2016 09:53, "Ali Hussein via kictanet"
>>>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good to report that Safaricom has engaged. Hopefully we should
>>>>>>>>> resolve this soon.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 9:04 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
>>>>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ali,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> To say the least this is unethical. It would be great to hear what
>>>>>>>>>> Safaricom has to say about the same.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/14/16, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet
>>>>>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Monday!
>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a chance that you may even be subscribed and not get the
>>>>>>>>>>> prompt and
>>>>>>>>>>> the deductions happen?
>>>>>>>>>>> Is this in the line of Internet "un"Governance  whereby your data
>>>>>>>>>>> is mined
>>>>>>>>>>> for high value without your express consent or being
>>>>>>>>>>> paid/compensated for
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be blessed.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari ---
>>>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are
>>>>>>>>>>> Restored
>>>>>>>>>>> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of
>>>>>>>>>>> God on
>>>>>>>>>>> Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  On Monday, 14 November 2016, 7:55, Collins Areba via kictanet
>>>>>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Very unfair, especially when they relegate the responsibility of
>>>>>>>>>>> unearthing
>>>>>>>>>>> if it is a scam to the consumers!
>>>>>>>>>>> On 14 Nov 2016 06:08, "Ali Hussein via kictanet"
>>>>>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All
>>>>>>>>>>> I woke up this morning to find myself registered by a Telco for a
>>>>>>>>>>> service I
>>>>>>>>>>> do not want.
>>>>>>>>>>> [5:59 AM, 11/14/2016] +254 713 601113: You have successfully
>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to
>>>>>>>>>>> the SKIZA Tunes service.Your password to log on to
>>>>>>>>>>> www.skiza.safaricom.com
>>>>>>>>>>> is xxxx.                        [5:59 AM, 11/14/2016] +254 713
>>>>>>>>>>> 601113: Your
>>>>>>>>>>> SKIZA Tune <Customized Skiza Tune> was set successfully.
>>>>>>>>>>>  [5:59 AM, 11/14/2016] +254 713 601113: You have successfully
>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded
>>>>>>>>>>> SKIZA Tune  Customized Skiza Tune .The tune will be renewed at KES
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.00
>>>>>>>>>>> daily.To delete dial *811#.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought these things shouldn't happen anymore?
>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Safaricom tell me that I have subscribed to SKIZA Tune
>>>>>>>>>>> when I did
>>>>>>>>>>> not? And proceed to tell me they will deduct Kshs. 1 per day for
>>>>>>>>>>> this? And
>>>>>>>>>>> if I want to unsubscribe/delete then I should dial *811#?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Who gave them the permission to subscribe me in the first place?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe my phone was hacked and someone registered me by mistake?
>>>>>>>>>>> At this point I'm giving Safaricom the benefit of doubt since just
>>>>>>>>>>> two weeks
>>>>>>>>>>> ago the CEO, Bob Collymore gave us his assurance that such
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior by PRSPs
>>>>>>>>>>> is frowned upon by his organisation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> AliHusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ke.linkedin.com/in/
>>>>>>>>>>> alihkassim
>>>>>>>>>>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,Chiromo Road,
>>>>>>>>>>> Westlands,Nairobi,
>>>>>>>>>>> Kenya.
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>>>>>>>>>>> purely mine
>>>>>>>>>>> and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>>>>>>>>>>> organizations
>>>>>>>>>>> that I work with.
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