[kictanet] OCHUODHO: It is high time order was brought to the ICT sector

Sat Nov 5 20:34:40 EAT 2016

An informative article. Thanks.

Quote from the article: "Lon Fuller in his book the Morality of Law writes
about King Rex who promulgated a law that required his subjects to appear
before the throne once summoned in ten seconds. His subjects responded by
sending him a leaflet which read, “To command what cannot be done is not to
make law; it is to unmake law, for a command that cannot be obeyed serves
no end but confusion, fear and chaos.”

On Saturday, November 5, 2016, Francis Monyango via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> I wrote an article after reviewing the bill. I have attached the link
> below. Please share it with those who haven't read the bill.
> http://monyango.com/index.php/2016/10/04/really-regulate-tech/
>
> On 05/11/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > This bill needs to be discussed in the ICT Summit at State House.
> >
> > Let the Jubilee Government tell us in no uncertain terms that that's the
> way
> > they intend to create jobs in ICT.
> >
> > As for Dr. Ochuodho he certainly gets our respect for the work he has
> done
> > in ICT in this country but to purport to support a bill he hasn't read
> is a
> > very strange thing for a man of his stature..
> >
> > Ali Hussein
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> >
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> >
> >
> > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
> what
> > no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 5 Nov 2016, at 6:30 PM, DigitalTVAfrica via kictanet
> >> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I hope Tony's mail has put an end to the campaign. Thanks for closing
> this
> >> debate Tony White.
> >>
> >>> On Saturday, November 5, 2016, Tony White via kictanet
> >>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> I wonder if Shem, who admits to not reading the bill he advocates,
> >>> takes his car for repair to a mechanical engineer, registered as an
> >>> engineer - or does he (like most of us) take it to his friendly local
> >>> mechanic?
> >>>
> >>> Strangely, the mechanical engineer probably would be unable (and
> >>> certainly unwilling) to get out his socket set and fix the car -
> >>> although he should be able to tell Shem how an internal combustion
> >>> engine works (and design one, should the need arise).
> >>>
> >>> Shem writes an 'oped' piece in the 'Nation' - does he need
> >>> certification as a 'journalist' to do that?
> >>>
> >>> Confusion also arises as to 'What *is* ICT'?  Is it the design of a
> >>> 'computer' (or associated hardware)? - NO - that is the province of
> >>> the electrical engineer!  Is it, then, the operation of a computing
> >>> 'device'? - NO - that is the province of the 'end user', in the same
> >>> sense as that of the operation of a TV - we all operate our TVs, and
> >>> watch programs of our choice, and we don't need any kind of
> >>> certification to do that.
> >>>
> >>> So is ICT the development of computer programs? - maybe - yet it still
> >>> depends on the intended purpose of the program in question.  If I
> >>> write a 'game' for an Android phone, do I need a license? - I hope
> >>> not!  But how about if I write a program to control a medical device?
> >>> - Ah! now we are getting into territory where some kind of regulation
> >>> is required - but is it the ICT component which needs the regulation,
> >>> or would it not be the medical device which would need to be certified
> >>> - and that falls into a different category (and sector) altogether.
> >>> If I were the designer of the medical device, I would want to make
> >>> damn sure the software engineer was qualified - but still, I don't
> >>> think having a GoK license would prove his qualification to do the
> >>> job.
> >>>
> >>> If we apply the same criteria to examine any aspect of ICT, I think
> >>> the conclusion would be that there is no such thing as an 'ICT
> >>> Professional' - although many of us may well be professionals in
> >>> fields which have some overlap with ICT - it is the common ground
> >>> where we meet - together with many who would not be described as
> >>> professionals at all.  And that is OK!
> >>>
> >>> Enjoy your weekend,
> >>> Tony
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 05/11/2016, alex watila via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> <javascript:;>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > maybe someone read it for him ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 5 Nov 2016 15:44, waudo siganga via kictanet
> >>> > <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> my brother Shem says in the article that he is supporting the bill
> but
> >>> >> has
> >>> >> NOT yet read it!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016, at 02:24 PM, Kamotho Njenga via kictanet wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Oracles from the father of Kenya's Internet......
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/It-is-high-time-order-
> was-brought-to-the-ICT-sector/440808-3441276-9qfmmgz/index.html
> >>> >>>
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> >> development.
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