[kictanet] Are the American Internet Giants Politically Agnostic?

Sun Jun 12 21:51:44 EAT 2016

OK basically I think this not a political discussion. But the way I
understand this is that the sad thing about American primaries is that I
guess the Delegates and Super Delegates have the power to over-turn the
will of the voters in the July convention.

I would believe Hillary goes through because of the current pledges made by
the delegates. And Sanders basically does not sing their song. So you are
right, Clinton is winning, but we still have to July to know for sure.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com> wrote:

> Nope.
> This article is from June 7, before the CA and NJ primaries were tallied.
> Those happened last week, and Clinton won both, by a lot. The only primary
> left is DC-which will go OVERWHELMINGLY for Clinton, and in any case, they
> don't matter, unfortunately, given population and delegate count.
>
>
>
>
> Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa
>
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>
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>
> On Jun 12, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <
> ultimateprogramer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ebele,
>
> Not according to this article from the Guardian recently:
>
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/07/california-primaries-7-june-cheat-sheet-clinton-sanders
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.theguardian.com_us-2Dnews_2016_jun_07_california-2Dprimaries-2D7-2Djune-2Dcheat-2Dsheet-2Dclinton-2Dsanders&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=6zUpg9kY80kPZAZUabCiSEkT8OvbiYAmYsLPc58v0zU&s=LQFmvlCh1XXXTKGTctxSR4DL2t7SkjGqqK8ShzXqDyE&e=>
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Google is not tampering with search to favor Secretary Clinton.
>> Facebook was not tampering with trending topics to disadvantage
>> politically conservative points of view-
>> http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/05/response-to-chairman-john-thunes-letter-on-trending-topics/
>>
>> The US electoral system deserves its own thread, with people who are
>> experts, but the description below re delegates is incorrect and moreover,
>> this has nothing to do with tech companies. In addition, Secretary Clinton
>> will win the Democratic nomination with or without the superdelegates-she
>> won the popular vote as well.
>>
>> For context re super delegates in US Democratic primary, see here-
>> http://theweek.com/articles/615261/superdelegates-explained
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__theweek.com_articles_615261_superdelegates-2Dexplained&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=6zUpg9kY80kPZAZUabCiSEkT8OvbiYAmYsLPc58v0zU&s=tRiTA0NLR_ZhztIje1ztImWpb3GgEfns4qWmi1eaR40&e=>
>>
>> For Secretary Clinton's lead over Senator Sanders and how it happened,
>> see here-essentially, she won every demographic except for white, rural
>> voters, which tells you a great deal about America's version of "tribal"
>> conflict-race.
>> http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__graphics.wsj.com_elections_2016_how-2Dclinton-2Dwon_&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=6zUpg9kY80kPZAZUabCiSEkT8OvbiYAmYsLPc58v0zU&s=OOP99Y7Vasvyab31ul-BcLp4wL86r__jYl0ZmVzSSfs&e=>
>>
>> It's absolutely certain that money and power have a distorting impact on
>> politics and governance, but incorrect information detracts from useful
>> debate, and the implication that tech companies are fraudulently
>> manipulating elections has no basis in fact.
>>
>> Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa
>>
>> m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 <+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315>
>>
>> 10 Brock Street | London | NW1 3FG
>>
>> ebeleokobi at fb.com
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Google isn't tampering with Hillary's results, and here is the evidence
>> http://www.snopes.com/google-manipulate-hillary-clinton/
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.snopes.com_google-2Dmanipulate-2Dhillary-2Dclinton_&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=ebZI_UpMJMKjnqeZaMqFyiy4PuZNfRnZnkKSKEuKjhE&s=NXq3FKk1fumDnDM-w5SGEp_PCkpC3y-Im6I-QPhq5CM&e=>
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2016, 10:23 Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet, <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> I think its a broad issue that is engrained in the power structure
>>> corporates have in the political landscape in the US. If we been following
>>> the recent campaign trail (Hillary vs. Sanders) you would notice that
>>> Delegates and Super Delegates get to gravitate to Hillary in the primaries
>>> - which is the power establishment tends to support Hillary. Word is that
>>> the power establishment is strongly tied to corporate interests. The
>>> funding sources for political campaigns for these 2 candidates is something
>>> worth noting with what you have already raised, Ali. (with Hillary
>>> primarily being funded by corporations and Sanders from organizations such
>>> as human rights movements). We all understand how powerful tech
>>> corporations in the US are not only in the US but also in the global
>>> landscape.
>>>
>>> Even Trump himself has boasted about the fact that he does not get
>>> sponsored by the elitist establishments (the corporations in the US), if
>>> Sanders is not being primarily funded by these corporate entities who else
>>> is Trump really talking about?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Listers
>>>>
>>>> First there there was the hullabaloo about Facebook 'doctoring' its
>>>> trending feeds and now there is the thingi about Google allegedly tweaking
>>>> its algorithms to favor Hillary Clinton. If you are like me and have
>>>> watched Season 4 of House of Cards you can start to begin appreciating how
>>>> technology companies have come to loom large in political contests.
>>>>
>>>> As we in Kenya enter electioneering period (no matter that the
>>>> elections are over a year away!) this issue will come to the fore too in
>>>> our local politics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://adage.com/article/campaign-trail/google-cahoots-clinton-campaign/304442/?utm_source=daily_email&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=adage&ttl=1466205792
>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__adage.com_article_campaign-2Dtrail_google-2Dcahoots-2Dclinton-2Dcampaign_304442_-3Futm-5Fsource-3Ddaily-5Femail-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dnewsletter-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dadage-26ttl-3D1466205792&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=ebZI_UpMJMKjnqeZaMqFyiy4PuZNfRnZnkKSKEuKjhE&s=yrXvopB1IJYHstyGhSOb67Puhvee8KPkWmxenVkoM7s&e=>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>>>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>
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>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
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>
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>
> --
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> Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO)
> Curator - Global Shapers Mombasa Hub
> Ambassador - Open Knowledge
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>
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