[kictanet] Kenya ICT Practitioners Bill - Walu's Views

Wed Jul 6 15:47:00 EAT 2016

Thanks Walu,

What is the way forward on the bill?

Regards,

Alex

From: Walubengo J [mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 3:26 PM
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Cc: Dennis Muthuri <muthuridennis at gmail.com>; Alex Watila <awatila at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Kenya ICT Practitioners Bill - Walu's Views

@Alex, @Muthuri,

Thnx for 'bursting' me @

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html 

It does seem the Internet does not forget :-)

Anyway, I still stand by those earlier views.  That the ICT professionals should be better organized and speak with one strong voice in order to guide the nation in prosperous and in difficult moments.  And that an Act of Parliament would go  a long way in ensuring that such a voice is grounded in legislation and therefore cannot be wished away by current or future governments. 

However, what I do not agree with is the way such an important bill may have gone 'below the radar' - all the way to the 1st reading. Without most people being aware of it, let alone having a chance to contribute and shape it.

In short, I have always appreciated the problem, but I do not necessarily agree with solutions (contents of the proposed bill), least of all the 'modus-operandi' methods applied to push it through.

So there you have it :-)

walu.

  _____  

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Thanks Alex,

I’d like to hear bwana Walu’s views. This is dialogue after all and not a witch hunt. All of us want the best way forward for all stakeholders at the end of the day.

Regards

On 6 Jul 2016, at 2:17 PM, Harry <harry26001 at gmail.com <mailto:harry26001 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Hey Alex,

Bwana Walu seems to have ducked  "under" on this one, though my sentiment would be that, his oped at the time seemed to lean more on how to give the ICT fraternity a voice through representation at the national stage than what we seeing now with the proposed bill that seems to weigh in more on regulatory policing. Given the multifaceted nature of the ICT space, the worst the proponents can do is to sneak in such proposed regulatory frameworks without as much as subjecting the same to wide multistakeholder input. This could be counter productive, and in fact threatens to stifle the very space that opened up, got liberalized and has thrived for almost 14years and which, has been a catalyst and testament to some of the amazing innovative achievements and growth to date in this sector.

So again, just like the wifi surveillance bill who initiated this..? Where was the consultative engagement..?

Harry

On Jul 6, 2016 11:47 AM, Alex Watila <awatila at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:awatila at yahoo.co.uk> > wrote:

Walu, 
Do you need to defend yourself? 

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/2305252/-/1208fkiz/-/index.html 

Regards, 

Alex 

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Subject: RE: [kictanet] Draft National ICTPolicy:-End of Online Discussions 

Dear All, 
I think the two issues are related since "to enforce government policies, governments make laws and then enforce the laws." 

It would be strange to be discussing a policy while another one seems to be in the process of being given legal authority. 

Regards, 

Alex 
https://twitter.com/hashtag/KillTheICTBill?src=hash 

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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Draft National ICTPolicy:-End of Online Discussions 

Hey Dennis, 

Welcome on board..! 

The Draft National ICT policy, (a review of the last one formulated in 2006) has been under discussion for the past abt 10 days on the forum. You can familiarize yourself with the just ended great debate at www.kitanet.or.ke <http://www.kitanet.or.ke/> , under the corresponding link headings. 

Walu, just wondering whether this can be extended to allow Listers ventilate on the  ICT practitioners bill currently trending exhaustively probably as an issue to be incorporated in the draft policy discussion, as opposed to treating it as a separate issue. As many as are of a similar opinion, say 'aye'.. 

Harry 

On Jul 6, 2016 10:36 AM, Dennis Muthuri via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> > wrote: 

Hi Hary, 

Kindly bring me up to speed with the draft that you are talking about, I joined this mailing list a day ago so I don’t have much context into the matter. 

Thanks. 

Dennis 

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