[kictanet] FW: [nairobilug] Draft National ICT policy

Tue Jul 5 20:08:30 EAT 2016

This brings up the question of the Computer Society of Kenya (CSK) led by
Waudo Siganga.....versus the new ICTAK led by Kamotho Njenga / Selasio
Kiura.

What was the criteria for picking which of these and any others will
basically regulate the ICT "profession"?

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ICTAK
"While I did not intend to comment on the contents of the Bill, I can't
help but notice that one ICT Association of Kenya will have the arduous
task of appointing five (out of nine) people to the Council that will
regulate professionals (Section 4). Pray tell, who is this association?"

CSK
(on their website)
"The Computer Society of Kenya is the recognized association for
Information, Communication and Technology industries and professionals in
Kenya, attracting large and active membership from all levels of the IT
industry and providing a wide range of services to its 6,000 + members."

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Interesting developments Alex.
> My initial reaction after reading the Bill is, questions questions
> questions:
> First of all, why would anyone conceive such an idea? To cure what
> problem? How will it better society as a whole? If indeed there was a
> problem to be addressed, couldn't the same have been dealt with in the
> policy process first? Assuming this Bill emanated from the Ministry, why
> would the Ministry undertake a policy review process and at the same time
> undertake a legal process to regulate the profession? And why is regulation
> of ICT professionals not even mentioned in the draft policy? We are always
> ready to engage and I am shocked to have learnt of the process so far in
> the day. Or did ICT professionals have a processes the outcome of which is
> this Bill?
>
> Speaking of a profession, what is the ICT profession? I see the Bill has
> attempted a definition at section 2 but isn't ICTs the most dynamic and
> cross cutting "profession" we have? Was there a study done to support such
> a disruptive regulation of the profession? Are there other countries that
> regulate their geeks this much? So what informed this legislation?
>
> Think of all the young people who eke a living from ICT related
> businesses. Why would anyone want to subject all these youth, together with
> those graduating from colleges and universities to one more hurdle before
> they can start working? Can't we leave it to the market to separate the
> very good practitioners from the average ones?
> I do not understand the Kenyan obsession with  ever regulating
> professions. What I know is that it is expensive for parents to perpetually
> pay fees before their (overgrown) children can finally get employment. It
> is also an additional cost to businesses as they have to foot the cost of
> compliance for the various professionals they employ or outsource.
>
> Finally, what are our legislative priorities in this sector? I would have
> thought the Data Protection framework is more urgent and maybe a Cyber
> Security one. While I did not intend to comment on the contents of the
> Bill, I can't help but notice that one ICT Association of Kenya will have
> the arduous task of appointing five (out of nine) people to the Council
> that will regulate professionals (Section 4). Pray tell, who is this
> association?
>
> Regards,
>
> 2016-07-05 14:03 GMT+03:00 Alex Watila via kictanet <
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>
>> FYI
>>
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>> Subject: Re: [nairobilug] Draft National ICT policy
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>> This could be a crushing blow to Kenya's ICT industry. If the USA had
>> such a law then so many of their major ICT companies would never have
>> happened. To name but 2, neither Steve Jobs nor Bill Gates gained any
>> formal ICT qualifications, in fact neither of them passed a degree in
>> anything. Several of the leading Linux kernel developers have no formal ICT
>> training.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On 4 July 2016 at 14:04, Tony White <tony.mzungu at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tony.mzungu at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > ...and *this*:
>> >
>> > http://kenyalaw.org/kl/fileadmin/pdfdownloads/bills/2016/InformationCo
>> > mmunicationTechnologyPractitioners_Bill_2016.pdf
>> >
>> > Which was introduced in the National Assembly last week, which will
>> > rquire all ICT 'practitioners' to be licenced (annually!!) and
>> > registered, with examination of qualifications, and ongoing
>> > 'training'!!
>> >
>> > Phew!!
>> >
>> > Tony
>> >
>> > On 04/07/2016, Ibrahim Ng'eno <eebrah at gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eebrah at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >> Y'all have seen this[1], yes?
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >> http://www.information.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Draft-Nationa
>> >> l-ICT-Policy-20June2016.pdf
>> >>
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