[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 47

Barrack Otieno otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 15:37:08 EAT 2016 

True can we talk about values without touching on Morals and Ethics?

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On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti <jkinoti at gmail.com> wrote:
> Barrack, you are right. We are 'advancing' as a people at the expense of
> the traditional values of our society.
>
> Having said that, notice how this conversation is slowly turning to a
> discussion about morals and ethics.
>
> Not sure, if the outcome will be fruitful in that regard.
>
> As a way forward, I would suggest enforcing of certain factors such as
> parental control - for all OTTP related services. Who knows the videos our
> children share with their friends on Whatsapp, IG ...
>
> Specifically, my opinion is a local used legislation must be inclusive and
> multifaceted. Mere blocking of content might be a simplistic approach to a
> complex situation.
>
> On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Colleagues,
>>
>> Just to weigh in on this discussion.
>>
>> Its hard to be a government officer in this day and age :-). We are
>> not doing well on the Social Pillar in so far as our Vision 2030
>> aspirations are concerned. This has to do with our value systems as a
>> nation. Value systems are largely developed through what we hear, what
>> we read and what we see, some of us are lucky to have grown when value
>> systems existed. Regardless of the technological, cross border and
>> geo-political aspects at play we have to achieve balance. I therefore
>> pose this question to colleagues?
>>
>> What would you do if you were in charge of the Kenya Film
>> Classification board in light of national aspirations and
>> constitutional expectations?
>>
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>> On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> > Linda makes a good case, Re: regulation of Netflix
>> >
>> > Just wondering if you are aware one can set a 'child' account.
>> >
>> > IMO, the supposed regulation will at best stir curiosity. Remember the
>> > banning of 'The Wolf of Wall Street' locally? The effects were opposite
>> of
>> > the intent.
>> >
>> > We ought to champion for self regulation and individual commitment to
>> > uphold the right values.
>> >
>> > The cyber space is a different kind of a beast.
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, <kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke
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>> > wrote:
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>> >>    1. Re: Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions (Ali Hussein)
>> >>    2. Fwd: Legislative Update (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu))
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300
>> >> From: Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
>> >> To: Linda Ochieng <lindaochieng at yahoo.com <javascript:;>
>> <javascript:;>>
>> >> Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <javascript:;> <javascript:;>" <
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>> >>         "mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>" <
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>> >> <javascript:;>>, "jwalu at yahoo.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>"
>> >>         <jwalu at yahoo.com <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
>> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> >> Message-ID: <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A at hussein.me.ke
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>> >>
>> >> Linda
>> >>
>> >> Please see my responses against your comments
>> >>
>> >> Ali Hussein
>> >> Principal
>> >> Hussein & Associates
>> >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>> >>
>> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>> >>
>> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>> >> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng <lindaochieng at yahoo.com
>> <javascript:;>
>> >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I have been following your discussions here and my  thoughts
>> >> specifically  on Netflix  and online streaming are as follows:
>> >> >
>> >> > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere
>> >> > to
>> >> the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with
>> >> all
>> >> the
>> >> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they
>> >> are
>> >> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That
>> >> is
>> >> the
>> >> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you
>> >> know,
>> >> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or
>> >> users of online platforms.
>> >>
>> >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and
>> >> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators
>> >> disagreeing.
>> >> Why
>> >> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the
>> Top)
>> >> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc?
>> >> >
>> >> > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace
>> against
>> >> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our
>> >> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed  that
>> most
>> >> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are
>> >> rated
>> >> as
>> >> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown
>> >> to
>> >> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children
>> >> have
>> >> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we
>> >> support such content?
>> >>
>> >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World
>> Wide
>> >> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of
>> >> us
>> >> all. We should fight it with all we have.
>> >> >
>> >> > Three and of  even greater concern is the fact that British media
>> >> reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on
>> >> these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable
>> >> suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in
>> >> such
>> >> an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret,
>> >> beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask?
>> >>
>> >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of
>> >> us
>> >> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch
>> >> in
>> >> our
>> >> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality
>> >> Police
>> >> in
>> >> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this
>> >> mentality
>> >> of
>> >> 'Serikali saidia'!
>> >> >
>> >> > Four, there is   concern over  growing levels of pornographic
>> >> > material
>> >> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The
>> >> source is online platforms.  This  should worry every good citizen.
>> >> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of
>> >> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be
>> >> given
>> >> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind
>> >> of
>> >> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is
>> >> not
>> >> affected by these challenges?
>> >> >
>> >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter
>> >> our
>> >> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading
>> >> from
>> >> the
>> >> same script.
>> >>
>> >> > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all
>> content
>> >> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without
>> >> exception.
>> >> Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for
>> classification
>> >> as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and
>> >> must
>> >> in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya.  Let us not be
>> >> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country.
>> >>
>> >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the
>> >> script
>> >> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get
>> >> on
>> >> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we
>> >> know
>> >> it
>> >> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us
>> positives
>> >> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!)
>> and
>> >> they really need to continue in the same vein.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Linda
>> >> > Amazon Tech Heights. Org
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