[kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya

Muchiri Nyaggah muchiri at semacraft.com
Mon Jan 11 10:00:00 EAT 2016 

So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards in the coming months?

Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content…since they are in a boardroom and what not.

Muchiri


> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
> 
> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. 
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> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
> 
>> @Gichuki, 
>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts.
>> 
>> Rgds
>> GG
>> 
>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya
>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com <mailto:chuksjonia at gmail.com>
>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com <mailto:ggithaiga at hotmail.com>
>> 
>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their board meetings.
>> 
>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
>> :-)
>> 
>> The more things change...
>> 
>> Ali Hussein 
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>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi at at.co.ke <mailto:ngigi at at.co.ke>> wrote:
>> :-) Thought so too... 
>> 
>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc
>> 
>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator...
>> 
>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you be...! :-)
>> 
>> @Walu,
>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that *list*
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke <mailto:ali at hussein.me.ke>> wrote:
>> :-)
>> 
>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-)
>> 
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>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke <mailto:ngigi at at.co.ke>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ali,
>> 
>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB...
>> 
>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) 
>> 
>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess with our morals :-)..."
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke <mailto:ali at hussein.me.ke>> wrote:
>> Ngigi
>> 
>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:-
>> 
>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents? 
>> 
>> Ali Hussein
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>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke <mailto:ngigi at at.co.ke>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ali,
>> 
>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts...
>> 
>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? 
>> 
>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation?
>> 
>> Rgds
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke <mailto:ali at hussein.me.ke>> wrote:
>> Ngigi
>> 
>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. 
>> 
>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them.
>> 
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>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
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>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> I just came across this
>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html>
>> 
>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix.
>> 
>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it?
>> 
>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB.
>> 
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