[kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya

Sat Jan 9 14:43:59 EAT 2016

I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not
understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone
please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their
board meetings.
On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> :-)
>
> The more things change...
>
> Ali Hussein
> Tel: +254 713 601113
> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> :-) Thought so too...
>>
>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated?
>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc
>>
>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and
>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator...
>>
>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you
>> be...! :-)
>>
>> @Walu,
>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that
>> *list*
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is
>>> a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-)
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
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>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ali,
>>>
>>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember
>>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB...
>>>
>>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the
>>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of
>>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame)
>>>
>>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to
>>> mess with our morals :-)..."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ngigi
>>>>
>>>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:-
>>>>
>>>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been
>>>> unable to Regulate torrents?
>>>>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>> *Principal*
>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>>>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ali,
>>>>
>>>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya
>>>> without having to use those VPN accounts...
>>>>
>>>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be
>>>> regulated?
>>>>
>>>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in
>>>> Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require
>>>> regulation?
>>>>
>>>> Rgds
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ngigi
>>>>>
>>>>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>> *Principal*
>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>>>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>
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>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>>>>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just came across this
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to
>>>>> regulate Netflix.
>>>>>
>>>>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access
>>>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film
>>>>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have
>>>>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
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>>>>
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