From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Fri Jan 1 00:29:17 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2016 00:29:17 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Cyber Bill In-Reply-To: <20151231164451.4882512.87875.8553@at.co.ke> References: <20151230074916.4882512.70107.8509@at.co.ke> <5F000BE1-9481-4A5F-9048-8887A5AF44B1@hussein.me.ke> <20151230115401.4882512.78603.8521@at.co.ke> <1451480514632-ef55c7ed-512454c3-f750e4c2@mixmax.com> <20151231164451.4882512.87875.8553@at.co.ke> Message-ID: True Ngigi Waithaka. We should be vigilant and ensure constitutional safeguards are respected and not diluted. I hope Article 19 and KNCHR are listening. They have been very handy previously in submitting informed arguments. Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwalu at yahoo.com Mon Jan 4 09:46:50 2016 From: jwalu at yahoo.com (Walubengo J) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 06:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated Feedback In-Reply-To: <1274726233.3176856.1450949237112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1274726233.3176856.1450949237112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Jambo, Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email posts and 13 googledoc posts). I intend to do it in three steps.1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc post @https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017)Policy& Legal issuesRegulatory IssuesHuman Capital/Workforce IssueICT Infrastructure IssuesICT Information Infrastructure Issues. 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we arrange for the cocktail event. I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. walu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 10:42:22 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:42:22 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated Feedback In-Reply-To: <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1274726233.3176856.1450949237112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Happy New year Walu, we vukaad , The proposed framework is ok. Thank you Best Regards
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On 1/4/16, Walubengo J via kictanet wrote: > Jambo, > Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. > Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email > posts and 13 googledoc posts). > I intend to do it in three steps.1. For transparency Lump everyones raw > email posts onto the google doc post > @https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit > > 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the National > ICT Masterplan (2013-2017)Policy& Legal issuesRegulatory IssuesHuman > Capital/Workforce IssueICT Infrastructure IssuesICT Information > Infrastructure Issues. > 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document > Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we > arrange for the cocktail event. > I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. > walu. > > > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From karanjajf at gmail.com Mon Jan 4 13:03:27 2016 From: karanjajf at gmail.com (Josphat Karanja) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 13:03:27 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated Feedback In-Reply-To: References: <1274726233.3176856.1450949237112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Walu, Tulivuka vyema. The framework as suggested works is OK Regards ........................................................... Josphat Karanja, *PMP?* "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle *Blog: *http://mawazoyamkenya.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Happy New year Walu, we vukaad , > > The proposed framework is ok. > > Thank you > > Best Regards > > On 1/4/16, Walubengo J via kictanet wrote: > > Jambo, > > Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. > > Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email > > posts and 13 googledoc posts). > > I intend to do it in three steps.1. For transparency Lump everyones raw > > email posts onto the google doc post > > @ > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit > > > > 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the > National > > ICT Masterplan (2013-2017)Policy& Legal issuesRegulatory IssuesHuman > > Capital/Workforce IssueICT Infrastructure IssuesICT Information > > Infrastructure Issues. > > 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document > > Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we > > arrange for the cocktail event. > > I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. > > walu. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/karanjajf%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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Box 3001 Addis Ababa, Ethiopia Tel: +251 11 5443563; Ext. 33563 Fax: +251 11 5514416 / +251 11 54411458 Email: mfaye at uneca.org; faymakane at gmail.com facebook.com/makane.faye.eca twitter: @thianar2 or @makaneeca Skype: makaneaddis Begin forwarded message: > From: Chengetai Masango > Date: January 4, 2016 at 21:39:05 GMT+3 > To: MAG-public > Subject: [IGFmaglist] Call for Nominations - 2016 MAG > > Dear All, > > Happy New Year and I hope you had a good holiday period. > > The call for nominations for the IGF 2016 MAG has been posted on the IGF website: > > http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/magabout/mag-renewal-announcement > > The deadline for submission of nominations through the nomination form is 1 February 2016. > > I would be grateful if you could spread the information through your respective stakeholder groups. > > Best regards, > > Chengetai > > _______________________________________________ > Igfmaglist mailing list > Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org > http://intgovforum.org/mailman/listinfo/igfmaglist_intgovforum.org __________ You are receiving this message because you're a member of the community Discussion List on African Internet Governance Forum. View this contribution on the web site https://dgroups.org/_/1a2a7ya2 A reply to this message will be sent to all members of Discussion List on African Internet Governance Forum. To reply to sender, send a message to mfaye at uneca.org. To unsubscribe, send an email to leave.aisi-ig-l at dgroups.org -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From ngigi at at.co.ke Tue Jan 5 10:11:01 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Waithaka Ngigi) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 10:11:01 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: <20160105071101.4894801.60266.8632@at.co.ke> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From odhiambo at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 10:53:32 2016 From: odhiambo at gmail.com (Odhiambo Washington) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 10:53:32 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: <20160105071101.4894801.60266.8632@at.co.ke> References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> <20160105071101.4894801.60266.8632@at.co.ke> Message-ID: Sometimes I can't help but think that Bob Collymore's roles in Safaricom and those govt appointments are conflicting somewhere. Having a foothold in govt gives him a certain leeway to influence how things happen elsewhere, where he has interests. Just saying. On 5 January 2016 at 10:11, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > This is interesting.... > > I can't help but wonder, why would these powers be shifted immediately > after the bruising battle with Safaricom? > > If you think about it, there are over a hundred different industries, yet > only a few are *individually* regulated. Communications is one of them. > > Why? Because of its broad reach, national importance and complexity > ?(shared resources, security concerns, adhering to international standards) > > That's why CA was setup. > > Now, you take the power to determine if a firm is engaging in > anti-competitive behaviour to a body that practically understands little > about such a key industry metrics as an example, how many Telco Engineers > do they have? Do they have live data they could use to say check on > frequency Abuse as an example? > > ?Do they have the guts to stand up to a Kenyan firm that makes Billions in > profits yearly when it abuses it's dominance? > > Waithaka Ngigi > > Alliance Technologies > www.at.co.ke > *From: *Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 5, 2016 5:39 AM > *To: *Ngigi Waithaka > *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Cc: *Nanjira Sambuli > *Subject: *[kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > > It's bound to be an interesting ride! > > ---- > *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > * > // *BusinessDailyHome > * > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently > monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow > mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via *my feedly reader * > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 5 10:59:28 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 10:59:28 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> <20160105071101.4894801.60266.8632@at.co.ke> Message-ID: Guys It's called Lobbying. Safaricom is just simply better at it than others. Having said that it's definitely a serious issue to remove the critical powers of regulation from CA and giving it to another agency ill equipped to execute that mandate. Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 On Jan 5, 2016 10:54 AM, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Sometimes I can't help but think that Bob Collymore's roles in Safaricom > and those govt appointments are conflicting somewhere. Having a foothold in > govt gives him a certain leeway to influence how things happen elsewhere, > where he has interests. Just saying. > > On 5 January 2016 at 10:11, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> This is interesting.... >> >> I can't help but wonder, why would these powers be shifted immediately >> after the bruising battle with Safaricom? >> >> If you think about it, there are over a hundred different industries, yet >> only a few are *individually* regulated. Communications is one of them. >> >> Why? Because of its broad reach, national importance and complexity >> ?(shared resources, security concerns, adhering to international standards) >> >> That's why CA was setup. >> >> Now, you take the power to determine if a firm is engaging in >> anti-competitive behaviour to a body that practically understands little >> about such a key industry metrics as an example, how many Telco Engineers >> do they have? Do they have live data they could use to say check on >> frequency Abuse as an example? >> >> ?Do they have the guts to stand up to a Kenyan firm that makes Billions >> in profits yearly when it abuses it's dominance? >> >> Waithaka Ngigi >> >> Alliance Technologies >> www.at.co.ke >> *From: *Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet >> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 5, 2016 5:39 AM >> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> *Cc: *Nanjira Sambuli >> *Subject: *[kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> >> It's bound to be an interesting ride! >> >> ---- >> *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> * >> // *BusinessDailyHome >> * >> >> The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently >> monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow >> mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. >> ---- >> >> Shared via *my feedly reader * >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Nanjira. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iambrianmuhia at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 11:19:57 2016 From: iambrianmuhia at gmail.com (Brian Muhia) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 11:19:57 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] New CAK Internet Regulations are problematic. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568B7CAD.8090004@gmail.com> How do we communicate the problems with the new Internet regulations coming from CAK? From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 11:21:26 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 11:21:26 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> <20160105071101.4894801.60266.8632@at.co.ke> Message-ID: By the look of things.. the fate of the tech and innovation sector is in a very bad state. If the Safaricom is a dominant player to this extent. The innovation spaces may become irrelevant very soon. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Guys > > It's called Lobbying. Safaricom is just simply better at it than others. > > Having said that it's definitely a serious issue to remove the critical > powers of regulation from CA and giving it to another agency ill equipped > to execute that mandate. > > Ali Hussein > Tel: +254 713 601113 > On Jan 5, 2016 10:54 AM, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Sometimes I can't help but think that Bob Collymore's roles in Safaricom >> and those govt appointments are conflicting somewhere. Having a foothold in >> govt gives him a certain leeway to influence how things happen elsewhere, >> where he has interests. Just saying. >> >> On 5 January 2016 at 10:11, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> This is interesting.... >>> >>> I can't help but wonder, why would these powers be shifted immediately >>> after the bruising battle with Safaricom? >>> >>> If you think about it, there are over a hundred different industries, >>> yet only a few are *individually* regulated. Communications is one of them. >>> >>> Why? Because of its broad reach, national importance and complexity >>> ?(shared resources, security concerns, adhering to international standards) >>> >>> That's why CA was setup. >>> >>> Now, you take the power to determine if a firm is engaging in >>> anti-competitive behaviour to a body that practically understands little >>> about such a key industry metrics as an example, how many Telco Engineers >>> do they have? Do they have live data they could use to say check on >>> frequency Abuse as an example? >>> >>> ?Do they have the guts to stand up to a Kenyan firm that makes Billions >>> in profits yearly when it abuses it's dominance? >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Alliance Technologies >>> www.at.co.ke >>> *From: *Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 5, 2016 5:39 AM >>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka >>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >>> *Cc: *Nanjira Sambuli >>> *Subject: *[kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >>> >>> It's bound to be an interesting ride! >>> >>> ---- >>> *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >>> * >>> // *BusinessDailyHome >>> * >>> >>> The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently >>> monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow >>> mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. >>> ---- >>> >>> Shared via *my feedly reader * >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nanjira. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/odhiambo%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From sidney.ochieng at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 12:11:25 2016 From: sidney.ochieng at gmail.com (Sidney Ochieng) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:11:25 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos [feedly] Message-ID: Listers, Would love to hear your thoughts on this. More worrying than losing the powers to declare dominance, which in my view is a problem, is the transfer of regulatory powers back to the ministry of ICT. The CA has been rendered effectively toothless... ---- CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos // Business Daily The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards, Sidney Touched not typed -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmn at savannahinformatics.com Tue Jan 5 12:32:55 2016 From: bmn at savannahinformatics.com (Brian Muhia) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:32:55 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos [feedly] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568B8DC7.90701@savannahinformatics.com> What does a "declaration of dominance" imply? Is this about reducing CA's power to, on it's own, declare antitrust violations? On 01/05/2016 12:11 PM, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet wrote: > > Listers, > Would love to hear your thoughts on this. More worrying than losing > the powers to declare dominance, which in my view is a problem, is the > transfer of regulatory powers back to the ministry of ICT. The CA has > been rendered effectively toothless... > > ---- > CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > // Business Daily > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently > monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow > mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via my feedly reader > > Regards, > Sidney > > Touched not typed > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bmn%40savannahinformatics.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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URL: From rlukalo at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 12:32:49 2016 From: rlukalo at gmail.com (Rose Lukalo -Owino) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:32:49 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: >From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society. It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.) On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > It's bound to be an interesting ride! > > ---- > *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > * > // *BusinessDailyHome > * > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently > monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow > mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via *my feedly reader * > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 12:59:49 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 12:59:49 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law > exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business > and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a > business has in/on society. > > It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same > authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is > hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them > in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick > up the (_____) customer service lines.) > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> It's bound to be an interesting ride! >> >> ---- >> *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> * >> // *BusinessDailyHome >> * >> >> The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently >> monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow >> mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. >> ---- >> >> Shared via *my feedly reader * >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Nanjira. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *Ahmed Maawy* Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer swahilibox.co.ke m-power.or.ke www.okfn.org startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rlukalo at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 13:12:57 2016 From: rlukalo at gmail.com (Rose Lukalo -Owino) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:12:57 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < ultimateprogramer at gmail.com> wrote: > It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories > in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah > Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space > in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" > recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little > to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a > major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law >> exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business >> and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a >> business has in/on society. >> >> It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same >> authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is >> hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them >> in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick >> up the (_____) customer service lines.) >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> It's bound to be an interesting ride! >>> >>> ---- >>> *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >>> * >>> // *BusinessDailyHome >>> * >>> >>> The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently >>> monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow >>> mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. >>> ---- >>> >>> Shared via *my feedly reader * >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nanjira. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > *Ahmed Maawy* > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > m-power.or.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bmn at savannahinformatics.com Tue Jan 5 13:35:12 2016 From: bmn at savannahinformatics.com (Brian Muhia) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:35:12 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: <568B9C60.6020707@savannahinformatics.com> It seems like we have been slowly entering a new phase in our economy. The dominant telcos seem to have regressed away from the innovation that helped them grow. My take on this is that since the government does very little concrete scientific/technological research, it is left to the few university-affiliated researchers and (the extremely hardworking) startup companies to invent new technologies before they run out of funding. Fundamentally new technologies always create new markets. Because the dominant telcos don't actually innovate any more, just rearranging product categories and offering the new things invented elsewhere, they quickly exhaust their market capacity and need to grow in other places. Since nature abhors a vacuum, all the places they could go have already been taken over by other similar telcos. Hence the number of mergers & acquisitions in the past few years. This leads me back to my earlier question. Is this a move to take control of the antitrust process? On 01/05/2016 01:12 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet wrote: > The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech > sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future > growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, > better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within > the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play > safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be > whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That > doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor > does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, > competitive pricing and service. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy > > wrote: > > It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having > stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and > Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and > fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were > hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if > innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope > for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is > a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet > > wrote: > > From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf > competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the > conversation away from business and engineering and the > technology and always reference the impact a business has > in/on society. > > It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with > that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point > we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the > privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if > you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the > (_____) customer service lines.) > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > > wrote: > > It's bound to be an interesting ride! > > ---- > *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > * > // *BusinessDailyHome > * > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to > independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse > ? leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new > players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via *my feedly reader * > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a > multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions > interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The > network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled > growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of > acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: > respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, > don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved > in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a > catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the > national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable > behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect > people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or > abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not > market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > *Ahmed Maawy* > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > m-power.or.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bmn%40savannahinformatics.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ikua.evans at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 13:52:02 2016 From: ikua.evans at gmail.com (Evans Ikua) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:52:02 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Day3 of 3:-Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList In-Reply-To: <1776904844.3127630.1450937694854.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1776904844.3127630.1450937694854.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dear listers, I am getting into this discussion pretty late but am sure I can still add my 2cents. The issue of the nascent BPO sector and Konza TechnoCity are intertwined but I think we have been missing the point by a mile. I have said on this platform in the past that what is needed here mostly is the development of advanced skills in IT. This is what is going to make a difference as far as BPO is concerned. We can have greater success this way than we can have with the best marketing effort or with the brightest techno city. What will bring work to Kenya is skills, not marketing campaigns. We need to leverage on our millions of youth and give them very highly advanced technical skills, on a large scale, then the work will come automatically. This is what experience has taught me. For instance, the Presidential Digital Talent program by ICTA is a good start. But we need this to be scaled 1000 times to make real impact. Then we need to stop Universities from offering word processing training to their students. How do we expect to compete globally if we are still training IT undergraduates on how to use a word processor? We need to teach them to think, not to be mere users of tools. We need to be makers of tools, then sell the same to the rest of the world. We need to learn to produce, not just consume. This is the challenge that we will face for a long time, and the government will continue missing the point by trying to tax people more to create development. Development should be a result of more production, not consumption. Just my thoughts.. Ikua On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers, > > Thnx all for your valuable inputs yesterday. Both on list and @ > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit > > Well received. > > Floor is open on our last day. I think I will extend it through midnite > (for those not attending Midnite Christmas Mass/Service/Hangout :-) > > So drop your ideas. My last one is: > > * Whatever happened to the BPO dream? Since the foreign companies were > not flocking in en mass as planned, I thought Government was to 'outsource' > part of its services as a way of maturing/jumpstarting the local BPO > market. Could this be the time to do this? > > walu. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ikua.evans%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *----------------------------------------------------Kind Regards,Evans Ikua,* Skype: evans.ikua Twitter: @ikuae Cell: +254-722-955831 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Tue Jan 5 14:05:17 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 14:05:17 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <1C7D7FEC-6609-4F13-A173-CD6523A46B9C@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: Technology never stiffles. It facilitates. Mind you Safaricom is a 100% technology based company. On Jan 5, 2016 1:13 PM, "Rose Lukalo -Owino" wrote: > The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector > is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and > expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier > opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector > suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of > sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring > to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms > of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of > availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < > ultimateprogramer at gmail.com> wrote: > >> It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having >> stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon >> Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the >> innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a >> "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly >> suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. >> Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic >> prosperity. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law >>> exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business >>> and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a >>> business has in/on society. >>> >>> It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same >>> authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is >>> hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them >>> in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick >>> up the (_____) customer service lines.) >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> It's bound to be an interesting ride! >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >>>> * >>>> // *BusinessDailyHome >>>> * >>>> >>>> The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently >>>> monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow >>>> mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> Shared via *my feedly reader * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nanjira. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Ahmed Maawy* >> Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) >> Ambassador - Open Knowledge >> Director - Startup Grind Mombasa >> Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer >> (KE) +254 714 960 627 >> Skype: ultimateprogramer >> >> swahilibox.co.ke >> m-power.or.ke >> www.okfn.org >> startupgrind.com >> ajplus.net >> www.everylayer.com >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy wrote: It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet wrote: >From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society. It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.) On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet wrote: It's bound to be an interesting ride! ---- CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos // BusinessDailyHome The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards,?Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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On 1/6/16, Ali Hussein via isoc wrote: > Listers > > Interesting development. Details are scant at the moment but if this is > true goes to show that you really can't keep a good idea down. > > I particularly like the quote from BitPesa below:- > > ?CBK has currently chosen not to regulate bitcoin. Unregulated business is > not illegal business and BitPesa will continue to operate and maintain our > headquarters in Kenya. BitPesa is licensed, however, by the UK?s Financial > Conduct Authority as an Authorised Payment Institution,? said the firm in a > notice. > > More on the story:- > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Bitcoin-trading-firm-partners-with-Airtel/-/539550/3022508/-/item/0/-/rfd7ysz/-/index.htm > l > > > *Ali Hussein* > > *Principal* > > *Hussein & Associates* > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > organizations that I work with. > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 12:34:31 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 12:34:31 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: <362845774.424945.1452012672911.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <362845774.424945.1452012672911.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Walu, He needs support from all stakeholders. Like the Digital TV issue, we must agree to disagree so that we can come up with the best solution for our budding industry. Regards
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On 1/5/16, Walubengo J via kictanet wrote: > This thing is very tricky. > I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications. > Enough said :-) > walu. > > > From: Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet > To: jwalu at yahoo.com > Cc: Rose Lukalo -Owino ; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > > The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector > is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and > expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier > opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector > suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of > sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring > to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms > of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of > availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy > wrote: > > It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories > in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah > Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space > in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" > recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little > to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a > major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet > wrote: > > From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, > I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and > engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business > has in/on society. > > It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same > authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is > hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them > in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick > up the (_____) customer service lines.) > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > wrote: > > It's bound to be an interesting ride! > > ---- > CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > // BusinessDailyHome > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently > monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow > mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via my feedly reader > > > Regards,?Nanjira. > Sent from my iPhone. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > Ahmed Maawy > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > m-power.or.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 6 12:35:30 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 12:35:30 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Airtel hands BitPesa a Life line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Barrack LOL! Just love that analogy..basically yes. And we know what that means...:-) *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Barrack Otieno wrote: > Hi Ali, > > What does that mean Legally? Its like operating a gadget that has not > gone through type approval at CA, no? > > Regards > > > > On 1/6/16, Ali Hussein via isoc wrote: > > Listers > > > > Interesting development. Details are scant at the moment but if this is > > true goes to show that you really can't keep a good idea down. > > > > I particularly like the quote from BitPesa below:- > > > > ?CBK has currently chosen not to regulate bitcoin. Unregulated business > is > > not illegal business and BitPesa will continue to operate and maintain > our > > headquarters in Kenya. BitPesa is licensed, however, by the UK?s > Financial > > Conduct Authority as an Authorised Payment Institution,? said the firm > in a > > notice. > > > > More on the story:- > > > > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Bitcoin-trading-firm-partners-with-Airtel/-/539550/3022508/-/item/0/-/rfd7ysz/-/index.htm > > l > > > > > > *Ali Hussein* > > > > *Principal* > > > > *Hussein & Associates* > > > > > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > > > Skype: abu-jomo > > > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > > organizations that I work with. > > > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwalu at yahoo.com Wed Jan 6 19:59:27 2016 From: jwalu at yahoo.com (Walubengo J) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to Consolidated Feedback_ver1 In-Reply-To: <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1274726233.3176856.1450949237112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1190457000.1059610.1452099567624.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Finally, Below is the link to the consolidated comments. Tried to further group them by short & immediate/long term. Feel free to make final editions/changes before end of day Friday 8th Jan 2015 (then we close the comments and move to the next stage/submit). -walu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHaanSGPQQ4NFofymvWYj4QUoCy6KbxYFmxEQhrMk-Y/edit?usp=sharing From: Walubengo J To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:46 AM Subject: Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated Feedback Jambo, Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email posts and 13 googledoc posts). I intend to do it in three steps.1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc post @https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017)Policy& Legal issuesRegulatory IssuesHuman Capital/Workforce IssueICT Infrastructure IssuesICT Information Infrastructure Issues. 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we arrange for the cocktail event. I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. walu. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Thu Jan 7 01:24:17 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 22:24:17 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Stanford in search for manager of Nairobi hub Message-ID: Top American university Stanford is hiring a manager to set up its Nairobi Innovation Centre set to be opened in June. The California-based learning institution last month revealed plans of setting up an innovation hub in Nairobi to train entrepreneurs.The Stanford Institute for Innovation in Developing Economies (seed) will be the second institution of its kind in the region after the university set up a similar facility in Accra in 2013. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Stanford-in-search-for-manager-of-Nairobi-hub/-/539550/3023676/-/rmqp49z/-/index.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 09:06:01 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:06:01 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to Consolidated Feedback_ver1 In-Reply-To: <1190457000.1059610.1452099567624.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1274726233.3176856.1450949237112.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <411511457.6528729.1451890010573.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1190457000.1059610.1452099567624.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Walu, I think majority of the issues are well captured. Regards On Jan 6, 2016 8:03 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Finally, > > Below is the link to the consolidated comments. Tried to further group > them by short & immediate/long term. > > Feel free to make final editions/changes before end of day Friday 8th Jan > 2015 (then we close the comments and move to the next stage/submit). > > -walu > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHaanSGPQQ4NFofymvWYj4QUoCy6KbxYFmxEQhrMk-Y/edit?usp=sharing > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Walubengo J > *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 9:46 AM > *Subject:* Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated > Feedback > > Jambo, > > Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. > > Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email > posts and 13 googledoc posts). > > I intend to do it in three steps. > 1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc > post @ > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit > > 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the > National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017) > Policy& Legal issues > Regulatory Issues > Human Capital/Workforce Issue > ICT Infrastructure Issues > ICT Information Infrastructure Issues. > > 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document > > Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we > arrange for the cocktail event. > > I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. > > walu. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Barrack Otieno To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions ; John Walubengo Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to Consolidated Feedback_ver1 Hi Walu,I think majority of the issues are well captured.RegardsOn Jan 6, 2016 8:03 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" wrote: Finally, Below is the link to the consolidated comments. Tried to further group them by short & immediate/long term. Feel free to make final editions/changes before end of day Friday 8th Jan 2015 (then we close the comments and move to the next stage/submit). -walu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHaanSGPQQ4NFofymvWYj4QUoCy6KbxYFmxEQhrMk-Y/edit?usp=sharing From: Walubengo J To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:46 AM Subject: Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated Feedback Jambo, Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email posts and 13 googledoc posts). I intend to do it in three steps.1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc post @https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017)Policy& Legal issuesRegulatory IssuesHuman Capital/Workforce IssueICT Infrastructure IssuesICT Information Infrastructure Issues. 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we arrange for the cocktail event. I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From memakunat at yahoo.com Thu Jan 7 09:56:43 2016 From: memakunat at yahoo.com (meshack emakunat) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 06:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Airtel hands BitPesa a Life line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1152050925.1453617.1452149803359.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> HI That great news, sometimes we may be too arrogant to learn from history...yet history can be the best guide for the future. if it is so then airtel may have taken history seriously and want to progress with what the market demands. remember "Kencel" then "Celtel" then "Zain" then "Airtel". remember the kencel scratchcards for 250 kshs yet safcom had 50 kshs scratchcard, 100 kshs kencel scratchcard yet safcom had 20 kshs scratchcard On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:04 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: Barrack LOL! Just love that analogy..basically yes. And we know what that means...:-) AliHusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates?Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Barrack Otieno wrote: Hi Ali, What does that mean Legally? Its like operating a gadget that has not gone through type approval at? CA, no? Regards
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On 1/6/16, Ali Hussein via isoc wrote: > Listers > > Interesting development. Details are scant at the moment but if this is > true goes to show that you really can't keep a good idea down. > > I particularly like the quote from BitPesa below:- > > ?CBK has currently chosen not to regulate bitcoin. Unregulated business is > not illegal business and BitPesa will continue to operate and maintain our > headquarters in Kenya. BitPesa is licensed, however, by the UK?s Financial > Conduct Authority as an Authorised Payment Institution,? said the firm in a > notice. > > More on the story:- > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Bitcoin-trading-firm-partners-with-Airtel/-/539550/3022508/-/item/0/-/rfd7ysz/-/index.htm > l > > > *Ali Hussein* > > *Principal* > > *Hussein & Associates* > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > organizations that I work with. > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/memakunat%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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URL: From jwalu at yahoo.com Thu Jan 7 10:15:56 2016 From: jwalu at yahoo.com (Walubengo J) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 07:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: <331686.43727.bm@smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <331686.43727.bm@smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <852528306.1415197.1452150956687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> True that... at JK But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that ?the new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition Authority? What is the practice elsewhere?? But more a pertinent question ?would be - what motivated the amendment? Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter? I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly. walu From: "ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk" To: Walubengo J ; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos Walu,Listers, The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK. John Kariuki Sent from my Huawei Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos From: Walubengo J via kictanet To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk CC: Walubengo J This thing is very tricky. ? I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications. Enough said :-) walu. From: Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet To: jwalu at yahoo.com Cc: Rose Lukalo -Owino ; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy wrote: It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet wrote: >From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society. It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.) On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet wrote: It's bound to be an interesting ride! ---- CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos // BusinessDailyHome The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards,?Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Ahmed Maawy Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer swahilibox.co.ke m-power.or.ke www.okfn.org startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nmutungu at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 11:41:02 2016 From: nmutungu at gmail.com (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 11:41:02 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: <852528306.1415197.1452150956687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <331686.43727.bm@smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <852528306.1415197.1452150956687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: See below, from October 2015 archives. Wishing you all a Happy 2016. Regards, -------- Dear Listers, I thought you may want to see the statement from the Director General in response to the proposed Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill, 2015. Forwarded for your reference. Regards, Rachel Alwala Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs Communications Authority of Kenya PO Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 Tel: +254 703 042000 Email: alwala at ca.go.ke Website: www.ca.go.ke Barrack Otieno via kictanet 30/10/15 Many thanks Rachel, This is very refreshing taking into consideration the comments attributed to the CS in the Star yesterday. Indeed we have to safe guard the Independence of the Communications Authority. Again thank you for responding to the Community through the list after the discussions we had last week. Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet .or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. 2016-01-07 10:15 GMT+03:00 Walubengo J via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > True that... at JK > > But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the > new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the > dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition > Authority? > > What is the practice elsewhere? > > But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? Is > it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped > to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better > chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the > works so that neither of them handles the matter? > > I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly. > > walu > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk" > *To:* Walubengo J ; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > > Walu,Listers, > The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called > "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK. > > John Kariuki > > Sent from my Huawei Mobile > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > From: Walubengo J via kictanet > To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk > CC: Walubengo J > > > This thing is very tricky. > > I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications. > > Enough said :-) > > walu. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet > *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com > *Cc:* Rose Lukalo -Owino ; KICTAnet ICT Policy > Discussions > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > > The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector > is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and > expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier > opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector > suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of > sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring > to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms > of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of > availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < > ultimateprogramer at gmail.com> wrote: > > It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories > in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah > Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space > in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" > recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little > to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a > major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law > exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business > and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a > business has in/on society. > > It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same > authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is > hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them > in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick > up the (_____) customer service lines.) > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > It's bound to be an interesting ride! > > ---- > *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > * > // *BusinessDailyHome > * > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently > monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow > mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via *my feedly reader * > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > *Ahmed Maawy* > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > m-power.or.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muchiri at semacraft.com Thu Jan 7 12:28:04 2016 From: muchiri at semacraft.com (Muchiri Nyaggah) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 12:28:04 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos In-Reply-To: References: <331686.43727.bm@smtp141.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <852528306.1415197.1452150956687.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <36A51481-E4CF-432A-BEF9-2CFBEE8ADF82@semacraft.com> Dear Listers May 2016 bring with it better things for all Kenyans. I am wondering whether on this issue we are passing judgement on CAK?s capacity in regard to technology/telecoms prematurely. Their human resource can be upgraded if need be, they can be provided with access to industry data should they need it, they have legislation giving them some teeth?they should be able to get the job done especially if they collaborate with other institutions rather than go to war. It might also be too early to determine the extent to which they can withstand external pressure (political or private sector) to make rulings in favour of interests that go against the public good. That said, whatever changes come in via Miscellaneous Amendments Acts can be reversed by future Miscellaneous Amendments Acts. There?s a glass half full somewhere here. Muchiri > On 7 Jan 2016, at 11:41 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet wrote: > > See below, from October 2015 archives. > Wishing you all a Happy 2016. > Regards, > -------- > Dear Listers, > > I thought you may want to see the statement from the Director General in response to the proposed Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill, 2015. Forwarded for your reference. > > Regards, > > Rachel Alwala > Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs > Communications Authority of Kenya > PO Box 14448 > Nairobi 00800 > Tel: +254 703 042000 > Email: alwala at ca.go.ke > Website: www.ca.go.ke > > Barrack Otieno via kictanet > > > 30/10/15 > > > > > > Many thanks Rachel, > > This is very refreshing taking into consideration the comments > attributed to the CS in the Star yesterday. Indeed we have to safe > guard the Independence of the Communications Authority. Again thank > you for responding to the Community through the list after the > discussions we had last week. > > Regards > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > 2016-01-07 10:15 GMT+03:00 Walubengo J via kictanet >: > True that... at JK > > But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition Authority? > > What is the practice elsewhere? > > But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter? > > I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly. > > walu > > > > From: "ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk " > > To: Walubengo J >; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > > Walu,Listers, > The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK. > > John Kariuki > > Sent from my Huawei Mobile > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > From: Walubengo J via kictanet > To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk > CC: Walubengo J > > > This thing is very tricky. > > I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications. > > Enough said :-) > > walu. > > > > From: Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet > > To: jwalu at yahoo.com > Cc: Rose Lukalo -Owino >; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > > The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy > wrote: > It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic prosperity. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet > wrote: > From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a business has in/on society. > > It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick up the (_____) customer service lines.) > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > wrote: > It's bound to be an interesting ride! > > ---- > CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos > // BusinessDailyHome > > The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. > ---- > > Shared via my feedly reader > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Ahmed Maawy > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > m-power.or.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u > Nairobi Kenya > Skype: gracebomu > Twitter: @Bomu > > > > > PGP ID : 0x33A3450F > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muchiri%40semacraft.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Their human resource > can be upgraded if need be, they can be provided with access to industry > data should they need it, they have legislation giving them some teeth?they > should be able to get the job done especially if they collaborate with > other institutions rather than go to war. > > It might also be too early to determine the extent to which they can > withstand external pressure (political or private sector) to make rulings > in favour of interests that go against the public good. > > That said, whatever changes come in via Miscellaneous Amendments Acts can > be reversed by future Miscellaneous Amendments Acts. There?s a glass half > full somewhere here. > > > Muchiri > > > On 7 Jan 2016, at 11:41 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > See below, from October 2015 archives. > Wishing you all a Happy 2016. > Regards, > -------- > Dear Listers, > > I thought you may want to see the statement from the Director General in > response to the proposed Statute Law (Miscellaneous Amendments) Bill, 2015. > Forwarded for your reference. > > Regards, > > Rachel Alwala > Assistant Director/Communications and External Affairs > Communications Authority of Kenya > PO Box 14448 > Nairobi 00800 > Tel: +254 703 042000 > Email: alwala at ca.go.ke > Website: www.ca.go.ke > > Barrack Otieno via kictanet > 30/10/15 > > Many thanks Rachel, > > This is very refreshing taking into consideration the comments > attributed to the CS in the Star yesterday. Indeed we have to safe > guard the Independence of the Communications Authority. Again thank > you for responding to the Community through the list after the > discussions we had last week. > > Regards > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet > .or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > 2016-01-07 10:15 GMT+03:00 Walubengo J via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > >> True that... at JK >> >> But as they say, the devil is in the details ...Is it possible that the >> new amendment has shifted the balance of powers on determining the >> dominance issue from the Communication Authority to the Competition >> Authority? >> >> What is the practice elsewhere? >> >> But more a pertinent question would be - what motivated the amendment? >> Is it that the Communication Authority was perceived to be >> unable/ill-equipped to deal with the issue and the Competition Authority >> may have a better chance of dealing with it? Or is it a matter of throwing >> a spanner in the works so that neither of them handles the matter? >> >> I dont have the answers..just thinking loudly. >> >> walu >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk" >> *To:* Walubengo J ; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> >> Walu,Listers, >> The thing is not as tricky as it appears.It is in legal terms called >> "concurrent jurisdiction" and is common in many countries,including the UK. >> >> John Kariuki >> >> Sent from my Huawei Mobile >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> From: Walubengo J via kictanet >> To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk >> CC: Walubengo J >> >> >> This thing is very tricky. >> >> I do not envy the new PS, Broadcast and Telecommunications. >> >> Enough said :-) >> >> walu. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet >> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com >> *Cc:* Rose Lukalo -Owino ; KICTAnet ICT Policy >> Discussions >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 1:12 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> >> The question that must be asked is whether that success of the tech >> sector is encouraging or stifling the emergence of others and future growth >> and expansion and in so doing serving the public with newer, better shinier >> opportunities. Behind the scenes conversations within the tech sector >> suggest to me that emergent players choose to play safe and stay out of >> sight of the dominant players lest they be whacked into oblivion for daring >> to demand a piece of the cake. That doesn't serve the new players in terms >> of freedom to contribute nor does it serve the public in terms of >> availability of choice, competitive pricing and service. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy < >> ultimateprogramer at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It may be more disturbing is that at this rate - we will be having >> stories in the archives about how great an innovative sector and Silicon >> Savannah Kenya really was really soon - or the rise and fall of the >> innovation space in the Silicon Savannah. We were hailed for being a >> "hotbed of innovation" recently. But if innovators will be constantly >> suffocated - there is little to hope for for innovation to have prosperity. >> Overall the tech sector is a major backbone of our recent economic >> prosperity. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Rose Lukalo -Owino via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> From the consumer rights perspective on whose behalf competition law >> exists, I think it is critical to take the conversation away from business >> and engineering and the technology and always reference the impact a >> business has in/on society. >> >> It is after all why we as Kenyans "license" business and with that same >> authority we can revoke that license if at any point we feel a business is >> hurting citizens or disrespecting the privilege of doing business with them >> in any way. (Hands up if you still can't get your cellphone company to pick >> up the (_____) customer service lines.) >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:38 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> It's bound to be an interesting ride! >> >> ---- >> *CA loses power to regulate dominant telcos >> * >> // *BusinessDailyHome >> * >> >> The Communications Authority of Kenya has lost powers to independently >> monitor dominance and act against its abuse ? leaving it with a narrow >> mandate of licensing new players and allocating frequencies. >> ---- >> >> Shared via *my feedly reader * >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Nanjira. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Ahmed Maawy* >> Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) >> Ambassador - Open Knowledge >> Director - Startup Grind Mombasa >> Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer >> (KE) +254 714 960 627 >> Skype: ultimateprogramer >> >> swahilibox.co.ke >> m-power.or.ke >> www.okfn.org >> startupgrind.com >> ajplus.net >> www.everylayer.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u > Nairobi Kenya > Skype: gracebomu > Twitter: @Bomu > > > > PGP ID : 0x33A3450F > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muchiri%40semacraft.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If you know of great candidates or networks to get the word out, please pass this along! https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/page/intermediary-liability-fellow The application deadline is February 15. -- Daphne Keller Director, Intermediary Liability Center for Internet and Society Stanford Law School On Jan 7, 2016 1:24 AM, "Grace Githaiga via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Top American university Stanford is hiring a manager to set up its Nairobi > Innovation Centre set to be opened in June. > > The California-based learning institution last month revealed plans of > setting up an innovation hub in Nairobi to train entrepreneurs. > The Stanford Institute for Innovation in Developing Economies (seed) will > be the second institution of its kind in the region after the university > set up a similar facility in Accra in 2013. > > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Stanford-in-search-for-manager-of-Nairobi-hub/-/539550/3023676/-/rmqp49z/-/index.html > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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The lower transaction fees on Airtel Money is a better incentive for people to join in and use BitPesa without having the elephant in the room: Withdrawal and Deposit charges. On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:56 AM, meshack emakunat via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > HI > > That great news, sometimes we may be too arrogant to learn from > history...yet history can be the best guide for the future. if it is so > then airtel may have taken history seriously and want to progress with what > the market demands. remember "Kencel" then "Celtel" then "Zain" then > "Airtel". remember the kencel scratchcards for 250 kshs yet safcom had 50 > kshs scratchcard, 100 kshs kencel scratchcard yet safcom had 20 kshs > scratchcard > > > On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:04 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > Barrack > > LOL! Just love that analogy..basically yes. And we know what that > means...:-) > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > organizations that I work with. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Barrack Otieno > wrote: > > Hi Ali, > > What does that mean Legally? Its like operating a gadget that has not > gone through type approval at CA, no? > > Regards > > > > On 1/6/16, Ali Hussein via isoc wrote: > > Listers > > > > Interesting development. Details are scant at the moment but if this is > > true goes to show that you really can't keep a good idea down. > > > > I particularly like the quote from BitPesa below:- > > > > ?CBK has currently chosen not to regulate bitcoin. Unregulated business > is > > not illegal business and BitPesa will continue to operate and maintain > our > > headquarters in Kenya. BitPesa is licensed, however, by the UK?s > Financial > > Conduct Authority as an Authorised Payment Institution,? said the firm > in a > > notice. > > > > More on the story:- > > > > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Bitcoin-trading-firm-partners-with-Airtel/-/539550/3022508/-/item/0/-/rfd7ysz/-/index.htm > > l > > > > > > *Ali Hussein* > > > > *Principal* > > > > *Hussein & Associates* > > > > > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > > > Skype: abu-jomo > > > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > > organizations that I work with. > > > > > -- > Barrack O. 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I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Fri Jan 8 19:16:57 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:16:57 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> Ngigi Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > I just came across this > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > > Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix. > > I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? > > When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ngigi at at.co.ke Fri Jan 8 19:41:16 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Ngigi Waithaka) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:41:16 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Ali, I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts... Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation? Rgds On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > Ngigi > > Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. > > Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > I just came across this > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > > Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate > Netflix. > > I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? > > When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film > classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have > ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Fri Jan 8 19:48:32 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:48:32 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> Ngigi Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts... > > Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? > > Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation? > > Rgds > >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> Ngigi >> >> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >> >> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet wrote: >>> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I just came across this >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix. >>> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? >>> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> www.at.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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URL: From ngigi at at.co.ke Fri Jan 8 20:02:03 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Ngigi Waithaka) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:02:03 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Ali, Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess with our morals :-)..." On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > Ngigi > > Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- > > What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable > to Regulate torrents? > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without > having to use those VPN accounts... > > Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? > > Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya > by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require > regulation? > > Rgds > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > >> Ngigi >> >> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >> >> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Hi Listers, >> >> I just came across this >> >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >> >> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate >> Netflix. >> >> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? >> >> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >> >> -- >> *Regards,* >> >> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> www.at.co.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Fri Jan 8 20:06:35 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:06:35 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> :-) As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... > > I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) > > In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess with our morals :-)..." > > >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> Ngigi >> >> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >> >> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents? >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts... >>> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >>> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation? >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >>>> Ngigi >>>> >>>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>>> >>>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>>> >>>> Ali Hussein >>>> Principal >>>> Hussein & Associates >>>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Listers, >>>>> >>>>> I just came across this >>>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>>>> >>>>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix. >>>>> >>>>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? >>>>> >>>>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Waithaka Ngigi >>>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building >>>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>>>> www.at.co.ke >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>>>> >>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Just how smooth can you be...! :-) @Walu, Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that *list* On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > :-) > > As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a > major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an > instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... > > I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the > dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of > insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) > > In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to > mess with our morals :-)..." > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > >> Ngigi >> >> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >> >> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >> unable to Regulate torrents? >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: >> >> Ali, >> >> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without >> having to use those VPN accounts... >> >> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >> >> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya >> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >> regulation? >> >> Rgds >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>> >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I just came across this >>> >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate >>> Netflix. >>> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >>> it? >>> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >>> >>> -- >>> *Regards,* >>> >>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Regards,* >> >> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> www.at.co.ke >> >> > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Fri Jan 8 20:30:39 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:30:39 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: :-) The more things change... Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" wrote: > :-) Thought so too... > > And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? > Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc > > And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and on > *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... > > Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you > be...! :-) > > @Walu, > Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that > *list* > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > >> :-) >> >> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a >> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: >> >> Ali, >> >> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember >> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >> >> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the >> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of >> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) >> >> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to >> mess with our morals :-)..." >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >>> >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >>> unable to Regulate torrents? >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya >>> without having to use those VPN accounts... >>> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >>> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in >>> Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >>> regulation? >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >>> >>>> Ngigi >>>> >>>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>>> >>>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>>> >>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>> *Principal* >>>> *Hussein & Associates* >>>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> >>>> >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < >>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Listers, >>>> >>>> I just came across this >>>> >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>>> >>>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate >>>> Netflix. >>>> >>>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >>>> it? >>>> >>>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >>>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Regards,* >>>> >>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>>> Building >>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>>> www.at.co.ke >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>> >>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Regards,* >>> >>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Regards,* >> >> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> www.at.co.ke >> >> > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tried to further group > them by short & immediate/long term. > > Feel free to make final editions/changes before end of day Friday 8th Jan > 2015 (then we close the comments and move to the next stage/submit). > > -walu > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHaanSGPQQ4NFofymvWYj4QUoCy6KbxYFmxEQhrMk-Y/edit?usp=sharing > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Walubengo J > *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 9:46 AM > *Subject:* Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated > Feedback > > Jambo, > > Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. > > Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email > posts and 13 googledoc posts). > > I intend to do it in three steps. > 1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc > post @ > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit > > 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the > National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017) > Policy& Legal issues > Regulatory Issues > Human Capital/Workforce Issue > ICT Infrastructure Issues > ICT Information Infrastructure Issues. > > 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document > > Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we > arrange for the cocktail event. > > I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. > > walu. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwalu at yahoo.com Sat Jan 9 13:29:05 2016 From: jwalu at yahoo.com (Walubengo J) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 10:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to Consolidated Feedback_ver1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <398735896.2582809.1452335345403.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> @Muthoni,Thnx. My task is now over and done. @GG - over to you. ?Advise Listers when ready, on the next steps regarding the handing over of our Memorandum to the new leadership at the ICT ministry. rgds. walu. From: Dorcas Muthoni To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions ; 'John Walubengo' Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to Consolidated Feedback_ver1 Happy new listers, Thanks and good job Walu.Best,? Muthoni On Jan 6, 2016 8:03 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" wrote: Finally, Below is the link to the consolidated comments. Tried to further group them by short & immediate/long term. Feel free to make final editions/changes before end of day Friday 8th Jan 2015 (then we close the comments and move to the next stage/submit). -walu https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHaanSGPQQ4NFofymvWYj4QUoCy6KbxYFmxEQhrMk-Y/edit?usp=sharing From: Walubengo J To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 9:46 AM Subject: Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated Feedback Jambo, Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email posts and 13 googledoc posts). I intend to do it in three steps.1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc post @https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017)Policy& Legal issuesRegulatory IssuesHuman Capital/Workforce IssueICT Infrastructure IssuesICT Information Infrastructure Issues. 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we arrange for the cocktail event. I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. walu. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chuksjonia at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 14:43:59 2016 From: chuksjonia at gmail.com (Gichuki John Chuksjonia) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their board meetings. On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > :-) > > The more things change... > > Ali Hussein > Tel: +254 713 601113 > On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" wrote: > >> :-) Thought so too... >> >> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? >> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc >> >> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and >> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >> >> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you >> be...! :-) >> >> @Walu, >> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that >> *list* >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >> >>> :-) >>> >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is >>> a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >>> >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) >>> >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to >>> mess with our morals :-)..." >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >>> >>>> Ngigi >>>> >>>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >>>> >>>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >>>> unable to Regulate torrents? >>>> >>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>> *Principal* >>>> *Hussein & Associates* >>>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> >>>> >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: >>>> >>>> Ali, >>>> >>>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya >>>> without having to use those VPN accounts... >>>> >>>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be >>>> regulated? >>>> >>>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in >>>> Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >>>> regulation? >>>> >>>> Rgds >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ngigi >>>>> >>>>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>>>> >>>>> *Ali Hussein* >>>>> *Principal* >>>>> *Hussein & Associates* >>>>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>>>> >>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>>> >>>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>>> >>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>>>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Listers, >>>>> >>>>> I just came across this >>>>> >>>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>>>> >>>>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to >>>>> regulate Netflix. >>>>> >>>>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >>>>> it? >>>>> >>>>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>>>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >>>>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Regards,* >>>>> >>>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>>>> Building >>>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >>>>> 000 >>>>> www.at.co.ke >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> kictanet mailing list >>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>>>> >>>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy >>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>>>> >>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>>>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>>>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>>>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Regards,* >>>> >>>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>>> Building >>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>>> www.at.co.ke >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Regards,* >>> >>> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Regards,* >> >> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> www.at.co.ke >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Sun Jan 10 14:08:52 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 14:08:52 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free Basics in India pending the results of its public consultation. Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end of the month. http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools can > be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call > "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" > > Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, > but I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great > work FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and > communication like this. It is very commendable. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Sun Jan 10 15:25:18 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 15:25:18 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> Even more important are the serious allegations of how Facebook is influencing public participation. One of these being a deliberate DDOS attack on the regulators website. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 10 Jan 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: > > In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free Basics in India pending the results of its public consultation. > > Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end of the month. > > http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia > >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" wrote: >> >> On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" wrote: >> > >> > This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools can be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" >> >> Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, but I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great work FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and communication like this. It is very commendable. >> > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Sun Jan 10 16:34:00 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:34:00 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: , <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke>, , <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke>, , <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke>, , , Message-ID: @Gichuki, I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. RgdsGG Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their board meetings. On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" wrote: :-) The more things change... Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" wrote: :-) Thought so too... And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you be...! :-) @Walu,Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that *list* On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: :-) As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: Ali, Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess with our morals :-)..." On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: Ngigi Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents? Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: Ali, I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts... Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation? Rgds On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: Ngigi Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet wrote: Hi Listers, I just came across thishttp://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix. I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. -- Regards, Waithaka NgigiChief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod BuildingT +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Waithaka NgigiChief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod BuildingT +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -- Regards, Waithaka NgigiChief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod BuildingT +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -- Regards, Waithaka NgigiChief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod BuildingT +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Sun Jan 10 22:25:22 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 22:25:22 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to Consolidated Feedback_ver1 In-Reply-To: <398735896.2582809.1452335345403.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <398735896.2582809.1452335345403.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I volunteer to create the eventsbright page for registration and I will share the link. GG can send to listers. I only need the date, time, and agenda. I presume the event will be hosted at Serena Nairobi. Liz will do the on venue vetting of registered members. We will print the list of registered attendees. Regards On Jan 9, 2016 1:29 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > @Muthoni, > Thnx. > > My task is now over and done. > > @GG - over to you. Advise Listers when ready, on the next steps regarding > the handing over of our Memorandum to the new leadership at the ICT > ministry. > > rgds. > > walu. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dorcas Muthoni > *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions ; > 'John Walubengo' > *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 10:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] #First100Days #ICTWishList-Attached Link to > Consolidated Feedback_ver1 > > Happy new listers, > Thanks and good job Walu. > Best, Muthoni > On Jan 6, 2016 8:03 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Finally, > > Below is the link to the consolidated comments. Tried to further group > them by short & immediate/long term. > > Feel free to make final editions/changes before end of day Friday 8th Jan > 2015 (then we close the comments and move to the next stage/submit). > > -walu > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yHaanSGPQQ4NFofymvWYj4QUoCy6KbxYFmxEQhrMk-Y/edit?usp=sharing > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Walubengo J > *To:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Sent:* Monday, January 4, 2016 9:46 AM > *Subject:* Re: #First100Days #ICTWishList-Preparing the Consolidated > Feedback > > Jambo, > > Hpe everyone successfully 'vukaad' into the new year. > > Am thinking about the valuable feedback you all gave in (about 40 email > posts and 13 googledoc posts). > > I intend to do it in three steps. > 1. For transparency Lump everyones raw email posts onto the google doc > post @ > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WG3JvLkOETkzd1y74Ue0-D5NtfqavYrkOf7jOKQbZto/edit > > 2. Do some analysis/categorization of the same as borrowed from the > National ICT Masterplan (2013-2017) > Policy& Legal issues > Regulatory Issues > Human Capital/Workforce Issue > ICT Infrastructure Issues > ICT Information Infrastructure Issues. > > 3. Allow final comment on the consolidated/analysed document > > Should be done before close of business on Wed 6th Jan 2015 and then we > arrange for the cocktail event. > > I invite any improvements on the above proposed framework. > > walu. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Mon Jan 11 08:23:35 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 08:23:35 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > > @Gichuki, > I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. > > Rgds > GG > > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their board meetings. > > On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" wrote: > :-) > > The more things change... > > Ali Hussein > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" wrote: > :-) Thought so too... > > And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc > > And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... > > Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you be...! :-) > > @Walu, > Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that *list* > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > :-) > > As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... > > I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) > > In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess with our morals :-)..." > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > Ngigi > > Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- > > What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents? > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts... > > Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? > > Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation? > > Rgds > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > Ngigi > > Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. > > Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > I just came across this > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > > Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix. > > I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? > > When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From muchiri at semacraft.com Mon Jan 11 10:00:00 2016 From: muchiri at semacraft.com (Muchiri Nyaggah) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 10:00:00 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards in the coming months? Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they are in a boardroom and what not. Muchiri > On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: > > Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > wrote: > >> @Gichuki, >> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. >> >> Rgds >> GG >> >> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com >> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com >> >> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their board meetings. >> >> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" > wrote: >> :-) >> >> The more things change... >> >> Ali Hussein >> Tel: +254 713 601113 >> >> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" > wrote: >> :-) Thought so too... >> >> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc >> >> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >> >> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you be...! :-) >> >> @Walu, >> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that *list* >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein > wrote: >> :-) >> >> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka > wrote: >> >> Ali, >> >> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >> >> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) >> >> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess with our morals :-)..." >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein > wrote: >> Ngigi >> >> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >> >> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents? >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka > wrote: >> >> Ali, >> >> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts... >> >> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >> >> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation? >> >> Rgds >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein > wrote: >> Ngigi >> >> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >> >> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet > wrote: >> >> Hi Listers, >> >> I just came across this >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >> >> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix. >> >> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? >> >> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Waithaka Ngigi >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building >> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> <> >> www.at.co.ke >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Waithaka Ngigi >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> <> >> www.at.co.ke >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Waithaka Ngigi >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> <> >> www.at.co.ke >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Waithaka Ngigi >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> <> >> www.at.co.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muchiri%40semacraft.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Mon Jan 11 11:49:03 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 11:49:03 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: +1 Muchiri Nyaggah on adding local content to offerings by NetFlix. You know what, KFCB's mandate becomes nil if streaming becomes mainstream and they cannot regulate that content. When that day comes, we will ask for KFCB to be disbanded because they will have become irrelevant. That means they can only regulate local content, and what comes through traditional media (radio, TV, and DVD sales), but they cannot regulate streaming which will bypass all those other platforms in the coming years. KFCB here is trying to remain relevant and push it's head above the water in the deep ocean that is the internet. Of course KFCB's interference on online businesses is now a censorship issue, making us look more like some countries in Easter Europe and Asia. One eminent scholar was asking last week what will happen to our social values after allowing NetFlix in our borders. For example, our laws are very clear on issue of homosexuality and porn. Very interesting debate. I don't envy the guys at KFCB. On 11/01/2016, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet wrote: > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards in > the coming months? > > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they are > in a boardroom and what not. > > Muchiri > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet >> wrote: >> >> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are >> meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing >> to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >> > >> wrote: >> >>> @Gichuki, >>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get >>> a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and >>> international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. >>> >>> Rgds >>> GG >>> >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com >>> >>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not >>> understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can >>> someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit >>> in their board meetings. >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >>> > >>> wrote: >>> :-) >>> >>> The more things change... >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" >> > wrote: >>> :-) Thought so too... >>> >>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? >>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents >>> etc >>> >>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and >>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >>> >>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you >>> be...! :-) >>> >>> @Walu, >>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that >>> *list* >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein >> > wrote: >>> :-) >>> >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a >>> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >> > wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >>> >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo >>> lame) >>> >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to >>> mess with our morals :-)..." >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein >> > wrote: >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >>> >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >>> unable to Regulate torrents? >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >> > wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without >>> having to use those VPN accounts... >>> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >>> >>> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya >>> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >>> regulation? >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein >> > wrote: >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>> >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I just came across this >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> >>> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate >>> Netflix. >>> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >>> it? >>> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves >>> KFCB. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> Unsubscribe or >>> change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muchiri%40semacraft.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh The best athletes never started as the best athletes. "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. From peterwakaba at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 12:15:13 2016 From: peterwakaba at gmail.com (Peter Wakaba) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:15:13 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: On the subject of regulation, the board has a mandate by implication to regulate 'all' visual content aired in kenya via whatever media so long as its for public consumption, i.e, mass media. On the subject of understanding, the initial meeting will most likely to establish jurisdiction, understanding of formats, roles and mode of self regulation already in place. On the subject of DSTV, the initial partnership with KBC at inception should have covered assimilation of ratings and standards of broadcast. my 2 cents. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > +1 Muchiri Nyaggah on adding local content to offerings by NetFlix. > > You know what, KFCB's mandate becomes nil if streaming becomes > mainstream and they cannot regulate that content. When that day comes, > we will ask for KFCB to be disbanded because they will have become > irrelevant. That means they can only regulate local content, and what > comes through traditional media (radio, TV, and DVD sales), but they > cannot regulate streaming which will bypass all those other platforms > in the coming years. KFCB here is trying to remain relevant and push > it's head above the water in the deep ocean that is the internet. Of > course KFCB's interference on online businesses is now a censorship > issue, making us look more like some countries in Easter Europe and > Asia. > > One eminent scholar was asking last week what will happen to our > social values after allowing NetFlix in our borders. For example, our > laws are very clear on issue of homosexuality and porn. > > Very interesting debate. I don't envy the guys at KFCB. > > On 11/01/2016, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet > wrote: > > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards > in > > the coming months? > > > > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on > > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they > are > > in a boardroom and what not. > > > > Muchiri > > > > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet > >> wrote: > >> > >> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they > are > >> meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing > >> to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. > >> > >> Ali Hussein > >> Principal > >> Hussein & Associates > >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >> > >> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >> Skype: abu-jomo > >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >> > >> > >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >> > >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> @Gichuki, > >>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to > get > >>> a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and > >>> international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. > >>> > >>> Rgds > >>> GG > >>> > >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 > >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > >>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> > >>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com > >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > >>> > >>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not > >>> understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can > >>> someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to > sit > >>> in their board meetings. > >>> > >>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" > >>> > > >>> wrote: > >>> :-) > >>> > >>> The more things change... > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 > >>> > >>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" >>> > wrote: > >>> :-) Thought so too... > >>> > >>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never > regulated? > >>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents > >>> etc > >>> > >>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and > >>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... > >>> > >>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you > >>> be...! :-) > >>> > >>> @Walu, > >>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that > >>> *list* > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein >>> > wrote: > >>> :-) > >>> > >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC > is a > >>> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> Principal > >>> Hussein & Associates > >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >>> > >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >>> > >>> Skype: abu-jomo > >>> > >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >>> > >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Ali, > >>> > >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember > >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... > >>> > >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with > the > >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of > >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo > >>> lame) > >>> > >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to > >>> mess with our morals :-)..." > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein >>> > wrote: > >>> Ngigi > >>> > >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- > >>> > >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been > >>> unable to Regulate torrents? > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> Principal > >>> Hussein & Associates > >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >>> > >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >>> > >>> Skype: abu-jomo > >>> > >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >>> > >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >>> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Ali, > >>> > >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya > without > >>> having to use those VPN accounts... > >>> > >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be > regulated? > >>> > >>> > >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in > Kenya > >>> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require > >>> regulation? > >>> > >>> Rgds > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein >>> > wrote: > >>> Ngigi > >>> > >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. > >>> > >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. > >>> > >>> Ali Hussein > >>> Principal > >>> Hussein & Associates > >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >>> > >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >>> > >>> Skype: abu-jomo > >>> > >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >>> > >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet > >>> > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Listers, > >>> > >>> I just came across this > >>> > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > >>> < > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > > > >>> > >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate > >>> Netflix. > >>> > >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access > >>> it? > >>> > >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film > >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have > >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves > >>> KFCB. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Waithaka Ngigi > >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > >>> Building > >>> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > >>> <> > >>> www.at.co.ke > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> kictanet mailing list > >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >>> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > >>> < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > > >>> > >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > >>> regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From conradakunga at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 12:45:57 2016 From: conradakunga at gmail.com (Rad!) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:45:57 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: But what is special about Netflix? What about youtube? Vimeo? Khan Academy and the zillion of other content delivery portals? On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > On the subject of regulation, the board has a mandate by implication to > regulate 'all' visual content aired in kenya via whatever media so long as > its for public consumption, i.e, mass media. > > On the subject of understanding, the initial meeting will most likely to > establish jurisdiction, understanding of formats, roles and mode of self > regulation already in place. > > On the subject of DSTV, the initial partnership with KBC at inception > should have covered assimilation of ratings and standards of broadcast. > > my 2 cents. > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> +1 Muchiri Nyaggah on adding local content to offerings by NetFlix. >> >> You know what, KFCB's mandate becomes nil if streaming becomes >> mainstream and they cannot regulate that content. When that day comes, >> we will ask for KFCB to be disbanded because they will have become >> irrelevant. That means they can only regulate local content, and what >> comes through traditional media (radio, TV, and DVD sales), but they >> cannot regulate streaming which will bypass all those other platforms >> in the coming years. KFCB here is trying to remain relevant and push >> it's head above the water in the deep ocean that is the internet. Of >> course KFCB's interference on online businesses is now a censorship >> issue, making us look more like some countries in Easter Europe and >> Asia. >> >> One eminent scholar was asking last week what will happen to our >> social values after allowing NetFlix in our borders. For example, our >> laws are very clear on issue of homosexuality and porn. >> >> Very interesting debate. I don't envy the guys at KFCB. >> >> On 11/01/2016, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet >> wrote: >> > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the >> cards in >> > the coming months? >> > >> > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers >> on >> > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they >> are >> > in a boardroom and what not. >> > >> > Muchiri >> > >> > >> >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they >> are >> >> meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are >> willing >> >> to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. >> >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> Principal >> >> Hussein & Associates >> >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >> >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> @Gichuki, >> >>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to >> get >> >>> a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and >> >>> international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. >> >>> >> >>> Rgds >> >>> GG >> >>> >> >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 >> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >> >>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >>> >> >>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com >> >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com >> >>> >> >>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not >> >>> understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can >> >>> someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to >> sit >> >>> in their board meetings. >> >>> >> >>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >> >>> > >> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> :-) >> >>> >> >>> The more things change... >> >>> >> >>> Ali Hussein >> >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 >> >>> >> >>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" > >>> > wrote: >> >>> :-) Thought so too... >> >>> >> >>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never >> regulated? >> >>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents >> >>> etc >> >>> >> >>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* >> and >> >>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >> >>> >> >>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you >> >>> be...! :-) >> >>> >> >>> @Walu, >> >>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that >> >>> *list* >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein > >>> > wrote: >> >>> :-) >> >>> >> >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC >> is a >> >>> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >> >>> >> >>> Ali Hussein >> >>> Principal >> >>> Hussein & Associates >> >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >>> >> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >>> >> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >> >>> >> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >>> >> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPad >> >>> >> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka > >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Ali, >> >>> >> >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever >> remember >> >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >> >>> >> >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with >> the >> >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of >> >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo >> >>> lame) >> >>> >> >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to >> >>> mess with our morals :-)..." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein > >>> > wrote: >> >>> Ngigi >> >>> >> >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >> >>> >> >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >> >>> unable to Regulate torrents? >> >>> >> >>> Ali Hussein >> >>> Principal >> >>> Hussein & Associates >> >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >>> >> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >>> >> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >> >>> >> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >>> >> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPad >> >>> >> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka > >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Ali, >> >>> >> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya >> without >> >>> having to use those VPN accounts... >> >>> >> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be >> regulated? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in >> Kenya >> >>> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >> >>> regulation? >> >>> >> >>> Rgds >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein > >>> > wrote: >> >>> Ngigi >> >>> >> >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >> >>> >> >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >> >>> >> >>> Ali Hussein >> >>> Principal >> >>> Hussein & Associates >> >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >>> >> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >>> >> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >> >>> >> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >>> >> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPad >> >>> >> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet >> >>> > >> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi Listers, >> >>> >> >>> I just came across this >> >>> >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >> >>> < >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >> > >> >>> >> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to >> regulate >> >>> Netflix. >> >>> >> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >> >>> it? >> >>> >> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >> >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I >> have >> >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves >> >>> KFCB. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> >>> Building >> >>> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >> 000 >> >>> <> >> >>> www.at.co.ke >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> kictanet mailing list >> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >>> < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> > >> >>> >> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform >> >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the >> ICT >> >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> >>> development. >> >>> >> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, >> respect >> >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> >>> Building >> >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >> 000 >> >>> <> >> >>> www.at.co.ke >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> >>> Building >> >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >> 000 >> >>> <> >> >>> www.at.co.ke >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> >>> Building >> >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >> 000 >> >>> <> >> >>> www.at.co.ke >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> kictanet mailing list >> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >> >>> < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >> > >> >>> >> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform >> >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the >> ICT >> >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> >>> development. >> >>> >> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, >> respect >> >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list >> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >>> Unsubscribe >> or >> >>> change your options at >> >>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com >> >>> < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com >> > >> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform >> >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the >> ICT >> >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> >>> development. 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Interested to see how this plays out. ----- [image: hapa kenya] james wamathai / managing editor +254-722 352239/ jw at hapakenya.com http://www.hapakenya.com [image: Facebook] [image: Twitter] [image: Google Plus] [image: Linkedin] [image: Instagram] [image: Skype] On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:08 PM, wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya (Ali Hussein) > 2. Re: Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya (Ngigi Waithaka) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:48:32 +0300 > From: Ali Hussein > To: Ngigi Waithaka > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > Message-ID: <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1 at hussein.me.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ngigi > > Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- > > What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable > to Regulate torrents? > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > > > Ali, > > > > I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya > without having to use those VPN accounts... > > > > Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? > > > > Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in > Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require > regulation? > > > > Rgds > > > >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > >> Ngigi > >> > >> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. > >> > >> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. > >> > >> Ali Hussein > >> Principal > >> Hussein & Associates > >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >> > >> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >> Skype: abu-jomo > >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >> > >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Listers, > >>> > >>> I just came across this > >>> > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > >>> > >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to > regulate Netflix. > >>> > >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access > it? > >>> > >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film > classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have > ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Waithaka Ngigi > >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > >>> www.at.co.ke > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> kictanet mailing list > >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >>> > >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > >>> > >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy > and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > >>> > >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Waithaka Ngigi > > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > > www.at.co.ke > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160108/380d9304/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:02:03 +0300 > From: Ngigi Waithaka > To: Ali Hussein > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > Message-ID: > < > CAMzLdAO0VxOAU0g_he8_vFwvc7wu+e1JehDSFWCiQvkS5d6Gxg at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Ali, > > Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an > instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... > > I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the > dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of > insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) > > In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess > with our morals :-)..." > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > > > Ngigi > > > > Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- > > > > What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been > unable > > to Regulate torrents? > > > > *Ali Hussein* > > *Principal* > > *Hussein & Associates* > > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > > > Skype: abu-jomo > > > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > > > Ali, > > > > I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without > > having to use those VPN accounts... > > > > Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? > > > > Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya > > by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require > > regulation? > > > > Rgds > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > > > >> Ngigi > >> > >> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. > >> > >> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. > >> > >> *Ali Hussein* > >> *Principal* > >> *Hussein & Associates* > >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >> > >> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >> > >> Skype: abu-jomo > >> > >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >> > >> > >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >> > >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Listers, > >> > >> I just came across this > >> > >> > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > >> > >> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate > >> Netflix. > >> > >> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access > it? > >> > >> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film > >> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have > >> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves > KFCB. > >> > >> -- > >> *Regards,* > >> > >> *Wait**haka Ngigi* > >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > >> Building > >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > >> www.at.co.ke > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> kictanet mailing list > >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> > >> Unsubscribe or change your options at > >> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > >> > >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > >> > >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, > do > >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > *Regards,* > > > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > > Building > > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > > www.at.co.ke > > > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160108/e442bb82/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > ------------------------------ > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 19 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From toilemgodwin at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 12:14:46 2016 From: toilemgodwin at gmail.com (Toilem Godwin) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 12:14:46 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: I think this comes as an opportunity for us to welcome Netflix and have the help us promote local content(which we have been singing for ages now). For licensing Netflix, I do not know what KFCB is trying to achieve, and most importantly do they understand how Netflix works in the first place or is this just a stunt some GOK bodies pull to just show how busy they are. Waiting to see how this will work out. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards > in the coming months? > > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they are > in a boardroom and what not. > > Muchiri > > > On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are > meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing to > go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > @Gichuki, > I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get > a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and > international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. > > Rgds > GG > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not > understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can someone > please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit in their > board meetings. > On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > :-) > > The more things change... > > Ali Hussein > Tel: +254 713 601113 > On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" wrote: > > :-) Thought so too... > > And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? > Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents etc > > And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and on > *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... > > Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you > be...! :-) > > @Walu, > Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that > *list* > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > > :-) > > As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a > major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an > instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... > > I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the > dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of > insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame) > > In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to > mess with our morals :-)..." > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > > Ngigi > > Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- > > What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable > to Regulate torrents? > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > Ali, > > I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without > having to use those VPN accounts... > > Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? > > Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya > by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require > regulation? > > Rgds > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein wrote: > > Ngigi > > Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. > > Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > I just came across this > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html > > Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate > Netflix. > > I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it? > > When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film > classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have > ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB. > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or > change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From vicbwire at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 13:17:40 2016 From: vicbwire at gmail.com (Victor bwire) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:17:40 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: GG please add Mr Mutua to the group so mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com Media Council of Kenya get similar challenges when dealing with international media, who sometimes use their air content that relate to Kenya, but using their home country platforms to broadcast - in some cases their Kenya offices are not involved in the content generation and distribution, and when complaints come, we want to deal with them We have online radio which are not even registered by CA or MCK but broadcast in Kenya Challenges for regulators with the entry of online media players Victor On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Rad! via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > But what is special about Netflix? What about youtube? Vimeo? Khan Academy > and the zillion of other content delivery portals? > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> On the subject of regulation, the board has a mandate by implication to >> regulate 'all' visual content aired in kenya via whatever media so long as >> its for public consumption, i.e, mass media. >> >> On the subject of understanding, the initial meeting will most likely to >> establish jurisdiction, understanding of formats, roles and mode of self >> regulation already in place. >> >> On the subject of DSTV, the initial partnership with KBC at inception >> should have covered assimilation of ratings and standards of broadcast. >> >> my 2 cents. >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> +1 Muchiri Nyaggah on adding local content to offerings by NetFlix. >>> >>> You know what, KFCB's mandate becomes nil if streaming becomes >>> mainstream and they cannot regulate that content. When that day comes, >>> we will ask for KFCB to be disbanded because they will have become >>> irrelevant. That means they can only regulate local content, and what >>> comes through traditional media (radio, TV, and DVD sales), but they >>> cannot regulate streaming which will bypass all those other platforms >>> in the coming years. KFCB here is trying to remain relevant and push >>> it's head above the water in the deep ocean that is the internet. Of >>> course KFCB's interference on online businesses is now a censorship >>> issue, making us look more like some countries in Easter Europe and >>> Asia. >>> >>> One eminent scholar was asking last week what will happen to our >>> social values after allowing NetFlix in our borders. For example, our >>> laws are very clear on issue of homosexuality and porn. >>> >>> Very interesting debate. I don't envy the guys at KFCB. >>> >>> On 11/01/2016, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet >>> wrote: >>> > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the >>> cards in >>> > the coming months? >>> > >>> > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers >>> on >>> > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they >>> are >>> > in a boardroom and what not. >>> > >>> > Muchiri >>> > >>> > >>> >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand >>> they are >>> >> meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are >>> willing >>> >> to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. >>> >> >>> >> Ali Hussein >>> >> Principal >>> >> Hussein & Associates >>> >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >> >>> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >> >>> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPad >>> >> >>> >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >>> >> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> @Gichuki, >>> >>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs >>> to get >>> >>> a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and >>> >>> international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> GG >>> >>> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 >>> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >>> >>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com >>> >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not >>> >>> understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can >>> >>> someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber >>> to sit >>> >>> in their board meetings. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> The more things change... >>> >>> >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> :-) Thought so too... >>> >>> >>> >>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never >>> regulated? >>> >>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e >>> Parents >>> >>> etc >>> >>> >>> >>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* >>> and >>> >>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >>> >>> >>> >>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can >>> you >>> >>> be...! :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> @Walu, >>> >>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that >>> >>> *list* >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC >>> is a >>> >>> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >>> >>> >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> >>> Principal >>> >>> Hussein & Associates >>> >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>> thinking >>> >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> >>> >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever >>> remember >>> >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >>> >>> >>> >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with >>> the >>> >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home >>> of >>> >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo >>> >>> lame) >>> >>> >>> >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here >>> to >>> >>> mess with our morals :-)..." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Ngigi >>> >>> >>> >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >>> >>> >>> >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >>> >>> unable to Regulate torrents? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> >>> Principal >>> >>> Hussein & Associates >>> >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>> thinking >>> >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya >>> without >>> >>> having to use those VPN accounts... >>> >>> >>> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be >>> regulated? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in >>> Kenya >>> >>> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >>> >>> regulation? >>> >>> >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Ngigi >>> >>> >>> >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>> >>> >>> >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> >>> Principal >>> >>> Hussein & Associates >>> >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>> thinking >>> >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> >>> >>> I just came across this >>> >>> >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> >>> < >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to >>> regulate >>> >>> Netflix. >>> >>> >>> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to >>> access >>> >>> it? >>> >>> >>> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>> >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I >>> have >>> >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves >>> >>> KFCB. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> >>> Building >>> >>> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >>> 000 >>> >>> <> >>> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> kictanet mailing list >>> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform >>> >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the >>> ICT >>> >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> >>> development. >>> >>> >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors >>> >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, >>> respect >>> >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> >>> Building >>> >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >>> 000 >>> >>> <> >>> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> >>> Building >>> >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >>> 000 >>> >>> <> >>> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> >>> Building >>> >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 >>> 000 >>> >>> <> >>> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> kictanet mailing list >>> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> >>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >>> >>> < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >>> platform >>> >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> >>> regulation. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/vicbwire%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hotline at cofek.co.ke Mon Jan 11 13:36:39 2016 From: hotline at cofek.co.ke (Consumers Federation of Kenya (COFEK)) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:36:39 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: <008401d14c5b$f4c8a4a0$de59ede0$@cofek.co.ke> Dear All, Good debate. But we cannot regulate what doesn?t exist. We cannot fear the unknown. We cannot stifle innovation. Geographical boundaries on broadcast legislation can still by enforced either through diplomacy (ITU and bilateral relations) or otherwise for uncooperative and intruder international broadcasters. This should by no means be a scare to CA and or KFCB which must already have crafted draft ways and means of dealing with offshore/online broadcasters. A credible broadcaster should naturally cooperate. Kind regards Jack Juma www.cofek.co.ke From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+hotline=cofek.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Victor bwire via kictanet Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 1:18 PM To: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek) Cc: Victor bwire Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya GG please add Mr Mutua to the group so mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com Media Council of Kenya get similar challenges when dealing with international media, who sometimes use their air content that relate to Kenya, but using their home country platforms to broadcast - in some cases their Kenya offices are not involved in the content generation and distribution, and when complaints come, we want to deal with them We have online radio which are not even registered by CA or MCK but broadcast in Kenya Challenges for regulators with the entry of online media players Victor On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Rad! via kictanet > wrote: But what is special about Netflix? What about youtube? Vimeo? Khan Academy and the zillion of other content delivery portals? On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet > wrote: On the subject of regulation, the board has a mandate by implication to regulate 'all' visual content aired in kenya via whatever media so long as its for public consumption, i.e, mass media. On the subject of understanding, the initial meeting will most likely to establish jurisdiction, understanding of formats, roles and mode of self regulation already in place. On the subject of DSTV, the initial partnership with KBC at inception should have covered assimilation of ratings and standards of broadcast. my 2 cents. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > wrote: +1 Muchiri Nyaggah on adding local content to offerings by NetFlix. You know what, KFCB's mandate becomes nil if streaming becomes mainstream and they cannot regulate that content. When that day comes, we will ask for KFCB to be disbanded because they will have become irrelevant. That means they can only regulate local content, and what comes through traditional media (radio, TV, and DVD sales), but they cannot regulate streaming which will bypass all those other platforms in the coming years. KFCB here is trying to remain relevant and push it's head above the water in the deep ocean that is the internet. Of course KFCB's interference on online businesses is now a censorship issue, making us look more like some countries in Easter Europe and Asia. One eminent scholar was asking last week what will happen to our social values after allowing NetFlix in our borders. For example, our laws are very clear on issue of homosexuality and porn. Very interesting debate. I don't envy the guys at KFCB. On 11/01/2016, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet > wrote: > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards in > the coming months? > > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they are > in a boardroom and what not. > > Muchiri > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet >> > wrote: >> >> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are >> meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing >> to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >> >> >> wrote: >> >>> @Gichuki, >>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get >>> a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and >>> international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. >>> >>> Rgds >>> GG >>> >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com > >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > >>> >>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not >>> understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can >>> someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit >>> in their board meetings. >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> :-) >>> >>> The more things change... >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" >>> >> wrote: >>> :-) Thought so too... >>> >>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? >>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents >>> etc >>> >>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and >>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >>> >>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you >>> be...! :-) >>> >>> @Walu, >>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that >>> *list* >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein >>> >> wrote: >>> :-) >>> >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a >>> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >>> >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo >>> lame) >>> >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to >>> mess with our morals :-)..." >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein >>> >> wrote: >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >>> >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >>> unable to Regulate torrents? >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without >>> having to use those VPN accounts... >>> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >>> >>> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya >>> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >>> regulation? >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein >>> >> wrote: >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>> >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I just came across this >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> >>> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate >>> Netflix. >>> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >>> it? >>> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves >>> KFCB. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> Unsubscribe or >>> change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable >>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/muchiri%40semacraft.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh The best athletes never started as the best athletes. "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. 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KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/conradakunga%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/vicbwire%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Mon Jan 11 17:06:27 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:06:27 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: <008401d14c5b$f4c8a4a0$de59ede0$@cofek.co.ke> References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> <008401d14c5b$f4c8a4a0$de59ede0$@cofek.co.ke> Message-ID: On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account where there will only be kids content. > Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. Interested to see how this plays out. > > ----- Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This is where VPN services rake in the money. Regards -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Mon Jan 11 17:21:28 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:21:28 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] [Kicktanet] Does Airtel's Unliminet contravene the spirit of Net Neutrality? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FCCBAEB-4EA1-453B-B954-5D689274FDAA@hussein.me.ke> Martin Thanks for bringing this up. ALL TELCOS in this country are violating Net Neutrality principles as we know them. The one thing that however has been missing in action in this country and across Africa are Regulators who have shown an understanding and willingness to tackle this issue. The problem where I?m sitting is the perception that Net Neutrality is a Western World Problem. This needs to STOP. One thing however that I?m clear about is that we in Africa need to define our own Net Neutrality Principles because in our part of the world its not cut and dried anymore and we can?t just piggy ride on the same principles and noms the rest of the world is using. Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: Abu-Jomo LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com > On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Martin Gicheru via kictanet wrote: > > Where do we as Kenyans stand on Airtel's Unliminet with regards to Net Neutrality? Or does it apply to Facebook Basics only? > > As you already know, with Unliminet, users can subscribe to various plans and in return get "unlimited" access to social media (Whatsapp, Instagram, Facebook and Twitter) with every bundle purchase besides some voice minutes and text messages. Isn't this against the principles of net neutrality? > > Read the argument here . > > Regards, > Martin Gicheru > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sidney.ochieng at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 17:42:38 2016 From: sidney.ochieng at gmail.com (Sidney Ochieng) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:42:38 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] [Kicktanet] Does Airtel's Unliminet contravene the spirit of Net Neutrality? In-Reply-To: <1FCCBAEB-4EA1-453B-B954-5D689274FDAA@hussein.me.ke> References: <1FCCBAEB-4EA1-453B-B954-5D689274FDAA@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Listers, It is true that all telcos violate net neutrality, Unliminet does not. You pay for access, let's say 1000 for the month, you get 2GB, 400min and 2000SMS when the data runs out you still get access to the entire internet at reduced speed of 256kbps. They imply that this will be forever and I can personally attest that it works but I wonder if this will be maintain ad infinitum. On 11 January 2016 at 17:21, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Martin > > Thanks for bringing this up. > > *ALL TELCOS *in this country are violating Net Neutrality principles as > we know them. The one thing that however has been missing in action in this > country and across Africa are Regulators who have shown an understanding > and willingness to tackle this issue. The problem where I?m sitting is the > perception that Net Neutrality is a Western World Problem. > > This needs to STOP. > > One thing however that I?m clear about is that we in Africa need to define > our own Net Neutrality Principles because in our part of the world its not > cut and dried anymore and we can?t just piggy ride on the same principles > and noms the rest of the world is using. > > Thanks & Regards > > Ali Hussein > ali at hussein.me.ke > > +254 713 601113 > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: Abu-Jomo > LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Martin Gicheru via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Where do we as Kenyans stand on Airtel's Unliminet with regards to Net > Neutrality? Or does it apply to Facebook Basics only? > > As you already know, with Unliminet, users can subscribe to various plans >> and in return get "unlimited" access to social media (Whatsapp, Instagram, >> Facebook and Twitter) with every bundle purchase besides some voice minutes >> and text messages. Isn't this against the principles of net neutrality? >> > > Read the argument here > > . > > Regards, > Martin Gicheru > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Regards, Sidney Ochieng *Skype:* sidney.ochieng | *Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: * http://sidneyochieng.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwangy at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 17:55:12 2016 From: mwangy at gmail.com (Mark Mwangi) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:55:12 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] [Kicktanet] Does Airtel's Unliminet contravene the spirit of Net Neutrality? In-Reply-To: References: <1FCCBAEB-4EA1-453B-B954-5D689274FDAA@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: As with most other things money talks. If they find it to be a cash cow then it remains. If not then it will be axed. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Sidney Ochieng via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Listers, > It is true that all telcos violate net neutrality, Unliminet does not. You > pay for access, let's say 1000 for the month, you get 2GB, 400min and > 2000SMS when the data runs out you still get access to the entire internet > at reduced speed of 256kbps. They imply that this will be forever and I can > personally attest that it works but I wonder if this will be maintain ad > infinitum. > > On 11 January 2016 at 17:21, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Martin >> >> Thanks for bringing this up. >> >> *ALL TELCOS *in this country are violating Net Neutrality principles as >> we know them. The one thing that however has been missing in action in this >> country and across Africa are Regulators who have shown an understanding >> and willingness to tackle this issue. The problem where I?m sitting is the >> perception that Net Neutrality is a Western World Problem. >> >> This needs to STOP. >> >> One thing however that I?m clear about is that we in Africa need to >> define our own Net Neutrality Principles because in our part of the world >> its not cut and dried anymore and we can?t just piggy ride on the same >> principles and noms the rest of the world is using. >> >> Thanks & Regards >> >> Ali Hussein >> ali at hussein.me.ke >> >> +254 713 601113 >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: Abu-Jomo >> LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> On Jan 11, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Martin Gicheru via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Where do we as Kenyans stand on Airtel's Unliminet with regards to Net >> Neutrality? Or does it apply to Facebook Basics only? >> >> As you already know, with Unliminet, users can subscribe to various plans >>> and in return get "unlimited" access to social media (Whatsapp, Instagram, >>> Facebook and Twitter) with every bundle purchase besides some voice minutes >>> and text messages. Isn't this against the principles of net neutrality? >>> >> >> Read the argument here >> >> . >> >> Regards, >> Martin Gicheru >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sidney Ochieng > > *Skype:* sidney.ochieng | *Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: * > http://sidneyochieng.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/mwangy%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Regards, Mark Mwangi markmwangi.me.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebeleokobi at fb.com Mon Jan 11 18:11:04 2016 From: ebeleokobi at fb.com (Ebele Okobi) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:11:04 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Hello, All!!! I?m back from annual leave, which I spent running after (and barely keeping up with) the three active, insatiably curious and insanely opinionated small people that my husband I made. I?m happy to be back at work to have easier conversations. ;-) So-I think that reasonable people can absolutely differ on how they feel about Facebook?s campaign to get Indian users to engage in the policy conversation about Free Basics and zero rating. From Facebook?s perspective, it was an attempt to engage the very people who would be most affected in the debate, and to get them to participate. Again, I certainly think that people can disagree on whether/how people should have been directly engaged. BUT. Facebook did NOT orchestrate a distributed denial of service attack against TRAI, and insinuating that this is the case, per the original article posted here means the writer doesn?t have an understanding of what DDOS attacks actually are. For info, please see here-http://www.digitalattackmap.com/understanding-ddos/ or here- https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/faq-what-is-ddos-denial-of-service-attacks-definition.html. DDOS attacks are technical attacks that overwhelm a target by building networks of infected computers, known as ?botnets? and then spreading malicious software through emails, websites and social media. Once infected, these machines can be controlled remotely, without their owners' knowledge, and used like an army to launch an attack against any target. Some botnets are millions of machines strong. Botnets generate huge floods of traffic, by sending more connection requests than a server can handle, or having computers send the victim huge amounts of random data to use up the target?s bandwidth. That is not, at all, what happened in India, and the fact that citizens sent both pro and con messages to policy makers seems, to me, to be exactly what we want citizens to do-engage with policy makers. In my view, even if they sent messages to TRAI saying no to Free Basics, that?s a win, because it?s citizens engaging in policy issues, and making their views known. Using the Interwebs and social media. ;-) So, again-fine to disagree with FB asking citizens to engage, but completely factually incorrect to say that TRAI was DDOSed. Words mean things, and that?s not what DDOS means. Happy new year, all-we really look forward to engaging with and learning more from this community in 2016!! Best, Ebele [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN ebeleokobi at fb.com From: kictanet > on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM To: Ebele Okobi > Cc: Ali Hussein > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet Even more important are the serious allegations of how Facebook is influencing public participation. One of these being a deliberate DDOS attack on the regulators website. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 10 Jan 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > wrote: In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free Basics in India pending the results of its public consultation. Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end of the month. http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > wrote: On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" > wrote: > > This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools can be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, but I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great work FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and communication like this. It is very commendable. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations in Busia... Is it practical? Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi Arabia, how would this work in practice? IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by policing... The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not extend to our houses. Rgds On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is > compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account > where there will only be kids content. > > > > Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically > classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is > acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. > > > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. > Interested to see how this plays out. > > > > ----- > > Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and > you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This > is where VPN services rake in the money. > > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Mon Jan 11 19:41:05 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:41:05 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Interesting to hear the other side of the coin. Ebele, would you mind sharing any ongoing Community iniatives conducted by facebook in our region and the impact? Thank you On Jan 11, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ebele Okobi via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hello, All!!! > > I?m back from annual leave, which I spent running after (and barely > keeping up with) the three active, insatiably curious and insanely > opinionated small people that my husband I made. I?m happy to be back at > work to have easier conversations. ;-) > > So-I think that reasonable people can absolutely differ on how they feel > about Facebook?s campaign to get Indian users to engage in the policy > conversation about Free Basics and zero rating. From Facebook?s > perspective, it was an attempt to engage the very people who would be most > affected in the debate, and to get them to participate. Again, I certainly > think that people can disagree on whether/how people should have been > directly engaged. > > BUT. Facebook did NOT orchestrate a distributed denial of service attack > against TRAI, and insinuating that this is the case, per the original > article posted here means the writer doesn?t have an understanding of what > DDOS attacks actually are. For info, please see here- > http://www.digitalattackmap.com/understanding-ddos/ or here- > https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/faq-what-is-ddos-denial-of-service-attacks-definition.html > . > > DDOS attacks are technical attacks that overwhelm a target by building > networks of infected computers, known as ?botnets? and then spreading > malicious software through emails, websites and social media. Once > infected, these machines can be controlled remotely, without their owners' > knowledge, and used like an army to launch an attack against any target. > Some botnets are millions of machines strong. Botnets generate huge floods > of traffic, by sending more connection requests than a server can handle, > or having computers send the victim huge amounts of random data to use up > the target?s bandwidth. > > That is not, at all, what happened in India, and the fact that citizens > sent both pro and con messages to policy makers seems, to me, to be exactly > what we want citizens to do-engage with policy makers. In my view, even if > they sent messages to TRAI saying no to Free Basics, that?s a win, because > it?s citizens engaging in policy issues, and making their views known. > Using the Interwebs and social media. ;-) > > So, again-fine to disagree with FB asking citizens to engage, but > completely factually incorrect to say that TRAI was DDOSed. Words mean > things, and that?s not what DDOS means. > > Happy new year, all-we really look forward to engaging with and learning > more from this community in 2016!! > > Best, Ebele > > [image: Description: Description: Description: > cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] > > > Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa > > m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 > > 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN > > ebeleokobi at fb.com > > > > From: kictanet > on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM > To: Ebele Okobi > Cc: Ali Hussein > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to > KICTANet > > Even more important are the serious allegations of how Facebook is > influencing public participation. One of these being a deliberate DDOS > attack on the regulators website. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 10 Jan 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free > Basics in India pending the results of its public consultation. > > Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end > of the month. > > > http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia > > On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > wrote: > >> >> On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> > >> > This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools >> can be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call >> "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" >> >> Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, >> but I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great >> work FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and >> communication like this. It is very commendable. >> > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and understood across the board. Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations in Busia... Is it practical? Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi Arabia, how would this work in practice? IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by policing... The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not extend to our houses. Rgds On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" wrote: > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account where there will only be kids content. >Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards.> But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. Interested to see how this plays out. > > -----Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This is where VPN services rake in the money.Regards _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- Regards, Waithaka NgigiChief?Executive?Officer |?Alliance Technologies?|?MCK Nairobi Synod BuildingT +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 |?M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ebeleokobi at fb.com Mon Jan 11 19:59:44 2016 From: ebeleokobi at fb.com (Ebele Okobi) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 16:59:44 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Good morning! What exactly do you mean when you say community initiatives? And when you say region, do you mean all of Africa, or East Africa, or Kenya? I?ve previously described the Continent-wide plans related to connectivity (not Free Basics-the ones related to infrastructure connectivity)-is that what you mean? Or are you talking about things like child online safety, developer engagement, online violence against women, our politics and government trainings, our SMB engagement, the Africa Innovation Challenge?all described/announced on earlier threads-or are referring to something else? And when you say impact, it?s hard to know what you mean, given that everything we are doing across Africa is brand new or scoped for 2016. We launched our first ever office in an African country in June of 2015, and the head of the office started in September. Perhaps the best thing for me to ask is-do you have any thoughts/recommendations? Happy to hear about them! I will say, however, that I strongly believe that the best way that a company contributes to a community is by offering a product that is useful, by being an ethical business that upholds human rights standards, by treating employees fairly, etc. And I think every company can always get better at those things, including Facebook. That said, I do think that Facebook provides an unparalleled platform to connect people to ideas and people they care about, and I also think that the potential Facebook has to support community values like political engagement, transparency, education, health, good governance, and economic empowerment for small business across all of our respective countries is truly revolutionary. But grateful for specifics, per questions above! Best, Ebele [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN ebeleokobi at fb.com From: Barrack Otieno > Date: Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:41 PM To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Cc: Ebele Okobi > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet Interesting to hear the other side of the coin. Ebele, would you mind sharing any ongoing Community iniatives conducted by facebook in our region and the impact? Thank you On Jan 11, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ebele Okobi via kictanet" > wrote: Hello, All!!! I?m back from annual leave, which I spent running after (and barely keeping up with) the three active, insatiably curious and insanely opinionated small people that my husband I made. I?m happy to be back at work to have easier conversations. ;-) So-I think that reasonable people can absolutely differ on how they feel about Facebook?s campaign to get Indian users to engage in the policy conversation about Free Basics and zero rating. From Facebook?s perspective, it was an attempt to engage the very people who would be most affected in the debate, and to get them to participate. Again, I certainly think that people can disagree on whether/how people should have been directly engaged. BUT. Facebook did NOT orchestrate a distributed denial of service attack against TRAI, and insinuating that this is the case, per the original article posted here means the writer doesn?t have an understanding of what DDOS attacks actually are. For info, please see here-http://www.digitalattackmap.com/understanding-ddos/ or here- https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/faq-what-is-ddos-denial-of-service-attacks-definition.html. DDOS attacks are technical attacks that overwhelm a target by building networks of infected computers, known as ?botnets? and then spreading malicious software through emails, websites and social media. Once infected, these machines can be controlled remotely, without their owners' knowledge, and used like an army to launch an attack against any target. Some botnets are millions of machines strong. Botnets generate huge floods of traffic, by sending more connection requests than a server can handle, or having computers send the victim huge amounts of random data to use up the target?s bandwidth. That is not, at all, what happened in India, and the fact that citizens sent both pro and con messages to policy makers seems, to me, to be exactly what we want citizens to do-engage with policy makers. In my view, even if they sent messages to TRAI saying no to Free Basics, that?s a win, because it?s citizens engaging in policy issues, and making their views known. Using the Interwebs and social media. ;-) So, again-fine to disagree with FB asking citizens to engage, but completely factually incorrect to say that TRAI was DDOSed. Words mean things, and that?s not what DDOS means. Happy new year, all-we really look forward to engaging with and learning more from this community in 2016!! Best, Ebele [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN ebeleokobi at fb.com From: kictanet > on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM To: Ebele Okobi > Cc: Ali Hussein > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet Even more important are the serious allegations of how Facebook is influencing public participation. One of these being a deliberate DDOS attack on the regulators website. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 10 Jan 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > wrote: In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free Basics in India pending the results of its public consultation. Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end of the month. http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > wrote: On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" > wrote: > > This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools can be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, but I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great work FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and communication like this. It is very commendable. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Now folks may not have > to read it :-( > > walu. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet > *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com > *Cc:* Ngigi Waithaka > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > > Mwendwa, > > Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? > > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US? > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US? > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? > > Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and > understood across the board. > > Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations > in Busia... Is it practical? > > Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, > something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi > Arabia, how would this work in practice? > > IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will > always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The > only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by > policing... > > The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the > public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not > extend to our houses. > > Rgds > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is > compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account > where there will only be kids content. > > > Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically > classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is > acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. > > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. > Interested to see how this plays out. > > > > ----- > Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and > you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This > is where VPN services rake in the money. > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ngigi at at.co.ke Mon Jan 11 23:11:12 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Ngigi Waithaka) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:11:12 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <1430961862.3499731.1452531064381.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: And I guess, wisdom prevails (...CA disagrees on regulating Netflix...) http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Regulators-clash-over-plan-to-censor-Netflix-online-movies/-/539550/3029548/-/ukn4yz/-/index.html On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > @Walu, > > You know how it is with great ..... :-) > > See you tomorrow.... > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Walubengo J wrote: > >> @Ngigi, >> >> You have just pre-empted my tomorrows article/blog. Now folks may not >> have to read it :-( >> >> walu. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet >> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com >> *Cc:* Ngigi Waithaka >> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >> >> Mwendwa, >> >> Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? >> >> Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US? >> Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US? >> Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya >> Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? >> >> Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and >> understood across the board. >> >> Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations >> in Busia... Is it practical? >> >> Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, >> something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi >> Arabia, how would this work in practice? >> >> IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will >> always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The >> only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by >> policing... >> >> The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the >> public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not >> extend to our houses. >> >> Rgds >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> > >> > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service >> is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account >> where there will only be kids content. >> > >> Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically >> classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is >> acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. >> > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do >> that. Interested to see how this plays out. >> > >> > ----- >> Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, >> and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. >> This is where VPN services rake in the money. >> Regards >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Regards,* >> >> *Wait**haka Ngigi* >> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >> Building >> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >> www.at.co.ke >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> >> > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 12 04:18:30 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 04:18:30 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> <008401d14c5b$f4c8a4a0$de59ede0$@cofek.co.ke> Message-ID: Ngigi Well put. I'm writing this with a smile because even if they wanted to they just simply don't have the capacity to stop innovating Kenyans accessing any content available online. Short of North Korean style firewalls and censorship. By the way just so that we know lots of Kenyans were already accessing Netflix by simply cheating the IP Readers that they were in the US. This formal announcement was just for those of us who were not savvy enough to know about it. KFCB is just trying to make itself relevant in a digital world they just simply don't comprehend. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 11 Jan 2016, at 7:35 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet wrote: > > Mwendwa, > > Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? > > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US? > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US? > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? > > Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and understood across the board. > > Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations in Busia... Is it practical? > > Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi Arabia, how would this work in practice? > > IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by policing... > > The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not extend to our houses. > > Rgds > >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: >> On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" wrote: >> > >> > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account where there will only be kids content. >> > >> >> Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. >> >> > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. Interested to see how this plays out. >> > >> > ----- >> >> Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This is where VPN services rake in the money. >> >> Regards >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Regards, > > Waithaka Ngigi > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blongwe at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 10:57:11 2016 From: blongwe at gmail.com (Brian Munyao Longwe) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:57:11 +0200 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> <008401d14c5b$f4c8a4a0$de59ede0$@cofek.co.ke> Message-ID: It's a pipe dream - how do you regulate the internet? Netflix is simply another streaming service - like YouTube... Who advises them? On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Ngigi > > Well put. I'm writing this with a smile because even if they wanted to > they just simply don't have the capacity to stop innovating Kenyans > accessing any content available online. Short of North Korean style > firewalls and censorship. > > By the way just so that we know lots of Kenyans were already accessing > Netflix by simply cheating the IP Readers that they were in the US. This > formal announcement was just for those of us who were not savvy enough to > know about it. > > KFCB is just trying to make itself relevant in a digital world they just > simply don't comprehend. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 11 Jan 2016, at 7:35 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Mwendwa, > > Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? > > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US? > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US? > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? > > Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and > understood across the board. > > Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations > in Busia... Is it practical? > > Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, > something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi > Arabia, how would this work in practice? > > IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will > always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The > only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by > policing... > > The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the > public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not > extend to our houses. > > Rgds > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> > >> > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service >> is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account >> where there will only be kids content. >> > >> >> Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically >> classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is >> acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. >> >> > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do >> that. Interested to see how this plays out. >> > >> > ----- >> >> Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, >> and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. >> This is where VPN services rake in the money. >> >> Regards >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmbuvi at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 11:47:43 2016 From: dmbuvi at gmail.com (Dennis Kioko) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:47:43 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Found this article which holds a rare view of Internet.org interesting. Claiming that Internet.org is a thinly veiled for-profit initiative masquerading as a philanthropic organization is a misguided notion http://www.iafrikan.com/2015/08/21/defending-internet-org/ On Monday, 11 January 2016, Ebele Okobi via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Good morning! > What exactly do you mean when you say community initiatives? And when you > say region, do you mean all of Africa, or East Africa, or Kenya? > I?ve previously described the Continent-wide plans related to connectivity > (not Free Basics-the ones related to infrastructure connectivity)-is that > what you mean? > Or are you talking about things like child online safety, developer > engagement, online violence against women, our politics and government > trainings, our SMB engagement, the Africa Innovation Challenge?all > described/announced on earlier threads-or are referring to something else? > And when you say impact, it?s hard to know what you mean, given that > everything we are doing across Africa is brand new or scoped for 2016. We > launched our first ever office in an African country in June of 2015, and > the head of the office started in September. > > Perhaps the best thing for me to ask is-do you have any > thoughts/recommendations? Happy to hear about them! > > I will say, however, that I strongly believe that the best way that a > company contributes to a community is by offering a product that is useful, > by being an ethical business that upholds human rights standards, by > treating employees fairly, etc. And I think every company can always get > better at those things, including Facebook. That said, I do think that > Facebook provides an unparalleled platform to connect people to ideas and > people they care about, and I also think that the potential Facebook has to > support community values like political engagement, transparency, > education, health, good governance, and economic empowerment for small > business across all of our respective countries is truly revolutionary. > > But grateful for specifics, per questions above! > Best, Ebele > > [image: Description: Description: Description: > cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] > > > Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa > > m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 > > 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN > > ebeleokobi at fb.com > > > > From: Barrack Otieno > > Date: Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:41 PM > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > Cc: Ebele Okobi > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to > KICTANet > > Interesting to hear the other side of the coin. Ebele, would you mind > sharing any ongoing Community iniatives conducted by facebook in our > region and the impact? > > Thank you > On Jan 11, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ebele Okobi via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > wrote: > >> Hello, All!!! >> >> I?m back from annual leave, which I spent running after (and barely >> keeping up with) the three active, insatiably curious and insanely >> opinionated small people that my husband I made. I?m happy to be back at >> work to have easier conversations. ;-) >> >> So-I think that reasonable people can absolutely differ on how they feel >> about Facebook?s campaign to get Indian users to engage in the policy >> conversation about Free Basics and zero rating. From Facebook?s >> perspective, it was an attempt to engage the very people who would be most >> affected in the debate, and to get them to participate. Again, I certainly >> think that people can disagree on whether/how people should have been >> directly engaged. >> >> BUT. Facebook did NOT orchestrate a distributed denial of service attack >> against TRAI, and insinuating that this is the case, per the original >> article posted here means the writer doesn?t have an understanding of what >> DDOS attacks actually are. For info, please see here- >> http://www.digitalattackmap.com/understanding-ddos >> / >> or here- >> https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/faq-what-is-ddos-denial-of-service-attacks-definition.html >> >> . >> >> DDOS attacks are technical attacks that overwhelm a target by building >> networks of infected computers, known as ?botnets? and then spreading >> malicious software through emails, websites and social media. Once >> infected, these machines can be controlled remotely, without their owners' >> knowledge, and used like an army to launch an attack against any target. >> Some botnets are millions of machines strong. Botnets generate huge floods >> of traffic, by sending more connection requests than a server can handle, >> or having computers send the victim huge amounts of random data to use up >> the target?s bandwidth. >> >> That is not, at all, what happened in India, and the fact that citizens >> sent both pro and con messages to policy makers seems, to me, to be exactly >> what we want citizens to do-engage with policy makers. In my view, even if >> they sent messages to TRAI saying no to Free Basics, that?s a win, because >> it?s citizens engaging in policy issues, and making their views known. >> Using the Interwebs and social media. ;-) >> >> So, again-fine to disagree with FB asking citizens to engage, but >> completely factually incorrect to say that TRAI was DDOSed. Words mean >> things, and that?s not what DDOS means. >> >> Happy new year, all-we really look forward to engaging with and learning >> more from this community in 2016!! >> >> Best, Ebele >> >> [image: Description: Description: Description: >> cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] >> >> >> Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa >> >> m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 >> >> 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN >> >> ebeleokobi at fb.com >> >> >> >> From: kictanet > > >> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > > >> Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > >> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM >> To: Ebele Okobi > > >> Cc: Ali Hussein > > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team >> to KICTANet >> >> Even more important are the serious allegations of how Facebook is >> influencing public participation. One of these being a deliberate DDOS >> attack on the regulators website. >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> > wrote: >> >> In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free >> Basics in India pending the results of its public consultation. >> >> Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end >> of the month. >> >> >> http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia >> >> On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > > wrote: >> >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" < >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools >>> can be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call >>> "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" >>> >>> Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, >>> but I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great >>> work FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and >>> communication like this. It is very commendable. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. 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Name: 6F096681-9A34-452C-A5CD-1D0E4C64A463[101].png Type: image/png Size: 5302 bytes Desc: not available URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 11:56:59 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:56:59 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to KICTANet In-Reply-To: References: <1032831654.12157120.1449206272274.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1449231946.1467772.457961497.5458B313@webmail.messagingengine.com> <61004888-227E-4520-AD15-7D96C450D46E@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Hi Ebele, Many thanks for your feedback and welcome back, i think you have answered most of my questions even though i was looking for success stories or feedback on some of the initiatives Facebook has engaged in Kenya Specifically and East Africa by extension. However, we are happy to hear what is happening in other Regions in Africa, West, North, Central and South since the information provides great insights. Best Regards On 1/11/16, Ebele Okobi wrote: > Good morning! > What exactly do you mean when you say community initiatives? And when you > say region, do you mean all of Africa, or East Africa, or Kenya? > I?ve previously described the Continent-wide plans related to connectivity > (not Free Basics-the ones related to infrastructure connectivity)-is that > what you mean? > Or are you talking about things like child online safety, developer > engagement, online violence against women, our politics and government > trainings, our SMB engagement, the Africa Innovation Challenge?all > described/announced on earlier threads-or are referring to something else? > And when you say impact, it?s hard to know what you mean, given that > everything we are doing across Africa is brand new or scoped for 2016. We > launched our first ever office in an African country in June of 2015, and > the head of the office started in September. > > Perhaps the best thing for me to ask is-do you have any > thoughts/recommendations? Happy to hear about them! > > I will say, however, that I strongly believe that the best way that a > company contributes to a community is by offering a product that is useful, > by being an ethical business that upholds human rights standards, by > treating employees fairly, etc. And I think every company can always get > better at those things, including Facebook. That said, I do think that > Facebook provides an unparalleled platform to connect people to ideas and > people they care about, and I also think that the potential Facebook has to > support community values like political engagement, transparency, education, > health, good governance, and economic empowerment for small business across > all of our respective countries is truly revolutionary. > > But grateful for specifics, per questions above! > Best, Ebele > > [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] > > Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa > m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 > 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN > ebeleokobi at fb.com > > > > From: Barrack Otieno > > > Date: Monday, January 11, 2016 at 4:41 PM > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > > Cc: Ebele Okobi > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to > KICTANet > > > Interesting to hear the other side of the coin. Ebele, would you mind > sharing any ongoing Community iniatives conducted by facebook in our region > and the impact? > > Thank you > > On Jan 11, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ebele Okobi via kictanet" > > > wrote: > Hello, All!!! > > I?m back from annual leave, which I spent running after (and barely keeping > up with) the three active, insatiably curious and insanely opinionated small > people that my husband I made. I?m happy to be back at work to have easier > conversations. ;-) > > So-I think that reasonable people can absolutely differ on how they feel > about Facebook?s campaign to get Indian users to engage in the policy > conversation about Free Basics and zero rating. From Facebook?s perspective, > it was an attempt to engage the very people who would be most affected in > the debate, and to get them to participate. Again, I certainly think that > people can disagree on whether/how people should have been directly > engaged. > > BUT. Facebook did NOT orchestrate a distributed denial of service attack > against TRAI, and insinuating that this is the case, per the original > article posted here means the writer doesn?t have an understanding of what > DDOS attacks actually are. For info, please see > here-http://www.digitalattackmap.com/understanding-ddos/ > or here- > https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/faq-what-is-ddos-denial-of-service-attacks-definition.html. > > DDOS attacks are technical attacks that overwhelm a target by building > networks of infected computers, known as ?botnets? and then spreading > malicious software through emails, websites and social media. Once > infected, these machines can be controlled remotely, without their owners' > knowledge, and used like an army to launch an attack against any target. > Some botnets are millions of machines strong. Botnets generate huge floods > of traffic, by sending more connection requests than a server can handle, or > having computers send the victim huge amounts of random data to use up the > target?s bandwidth. > > That is not, at all, what happened in India, and the fact that citizens sent > both pro and con messages to policy makers seems, to me, to be exactly what > we want citizens to do-engage with policy makers. In my view, even if they > sent messages to TRAI saying no to Free Basics, that?s a win, because it?s > citizens engaging in policy issues, and making their views known. Using the > Interwebs and social media. ;-) > > So, again-fine to disagree with FB asking citizens to engage, but completely > factually incorrect to say that TRAI was DDOSed. Words mean things, and > that?s not what DDOS means. > > Happy new year, all-we really look forward to engaging with and learning > more from this community in 2016!! > > Best, Ebele > [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] > > Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa > m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 > 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN > ebeleokobi at fb.com > > > > From: kictanet > > > on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > > > Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > > Date: Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 12:25 PM > To: Ebele Okobi > > Cc: Ali Hussein > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Introducing Facebook Africa Public Policy Team to > KICTANet > > Even more important are the serious allegations of how Facebook is > influencing public participation. One of these being a deliberate DDOS > attack on the regulators website. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: > http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: > www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what > no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 10 Jan 2016, at 2:08 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > > > wrote: > > > In December the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India suspended Free Basics > in India pending the results of its public consultation. > > Will free basics be allowed in India? We will know the verdict at the end of > the month. > > http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21685292-critics-argue-mark-zuckerbergs-generosity-cover-landgrab-facebooks-free-internet?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/facebooksfreeinternetprogrammehitsaroadblockinindia > > On Dec 4, 2015 6:20 PM, "Mwendwa Kivuva" > > wrote: > > On Dec 4, 2015 3:25 PM, "waudo siganga via kictanet" > > > wrote: >> >> This looks useful. Kivuva/Hussein please comment. Looks like schools can >> be able to access useful content without what the Bamba people call >> "kunyanyaswa na kukatwakatwa kila mwezi" > > Dr. Waudo, I'm between travels and responding is a little bit difficult, but > I will at the next opportune time. I only want to appreciate the great work > FB team in Africa has done, especially with community outreach and > communication like this. It is very commendable. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Tue Jan 12 12:10:25 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:10:25 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: , <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke>, , <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke>, , <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke>, , , , , , , , , , Message-ID: Sawa Victor.Adding him shortly. Happy new year. Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:17:40 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: vicbwire at gmail.com To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com GG please add Mr Mutua to the group so mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com Media Council of Kenya get similar challenges when dealing with international media, who sometimes use their air content that relate to Kenya, but using their home country platforms to broadcast - in some cases their Kenya offices are not involved in the content generation and distribution, and when complaints come, we want to deal with them We have online radio which are not even registered by CA or MCK but broadcast in Kenya Challenges for regulators with the entry of online media players Victor On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Rad! via kictanet wrote: But what is special about Netflix? What about youtube? Vimeo? Khan Academy and the zillion of other content delivery portals? On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Peter Wakaba via kictanet wrote: On the subject of regulation, the board has a mandate by implication to regulate 'all' visual content aired in kenya via whatever media so long as its for public consumption, i.e, mass media. On the subject of understanding, the initial meeting will most likely to establish jurisdiction, understanding of formats, roles and mode of self regulation already in place. On the subject of DSTV, the initial partnership with KBC at inception should have covered assimilation of ratings and standards of broadcast. my 2 cents. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: +1 Muchiri Nyaggah on adding local content to offerings by NetFlix. You know what, KFCB's mandate becomes nil if streaming becomes mainstream and they cannot regulate that content. When that day comes, we will ask for KFCB to be disbanded because they will have become irrelevant. That means they can only regulate local content, and what comes through traditional media (radio, TV, and DVD sales), but they cannot regulate streaming which will bypass all those other platforms in the coming years. KFCB here is trying to remain relevant and push it's head above the water in the deep ocean that is the internet. Of course KFCB's interference on online businesses is now a censorship issue, making us look more like some countries in Easter Europe and Asia. One eminent scholar was asking last week what will happen to our social values after allowing NetFlix in our borders. For example, our laws are very clear on issue of homosexuality and porn. Very interesting debate. I don't envy the guys at KFCB. On 11/01/2016, Muchiri Nyaggah via kictanet wrote: > So can we now expect meetings with YouTube, Vimeo etc to be on the cards in > the coming months? > > Meanwhile, I think this might be an opportunity for KFCB and its peers on > the continent to lobby Netflix to accommodate local content?since they are > in a boardroom and what not. > > Muchiri > > >> On 11 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet >> wrote: >> >> Fortunately for them Netflx has agreed to meet them. I understand they are >> meeting this week. Would be interesting how far both parties are willing >> to go to censor some content deemed undesirable for Kenyans. >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 10 Jan 2016, at 4:34 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >> > >> wrote: >> >>> @Gichuki, >>> I agree with you on the issue of understanding. I think KFCB needs to get >>> a brief on how Netflix works, including exploring what local and >>> international regimes exist for the management of online broadcasts. >>> >>> Rgds >>> GG >>> >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 14:43:59 +0300 >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya >>> From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> CC: chuksjonia at gmail.com >>> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com >>> >>> I think we have a big problem with Kenya Government and Agencies not >>> understanding how cyber works. How can you regulate streaming? Can >>> someone please train them or get younger guys who understand cyber to sit >>> in their board meetings. >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016 20:32, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >>> > >>> wrote: >>> :-) >>> >>> The more things change... >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> >>> On Jan 8, 2016 8:20 PM, "Ngigi Waithaka" >> > wrote: >>> :-) Thought so too... >>> >>> And guess, who else has over 18+ free channels that are never regulated? >>> Youtube, Vimeo, Hulu.... All these rely on self-regulation i.e Parents >>> etc >>> >>> And so, Netflix launches its goodies in Kenya this week *Wednesday* and >>> on *Monday* coming week, they have a *date* with the regulator... >>> >>> Quickest ever date with Kenyan bureaucracy.... Just how smooth can you >>> be...! :-) >>> >>> @Walu, >>> Can you add *level* playing field for all content providers into that >>> *list* >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Ali Hussein >> > wrote: >>> :-) >>> >>> As far as I know DSTV is not 'regulated'. Besides, remember that KBC is a >>> major stakeholder in DSTV..:-) >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 8:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >> > wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember >>> an instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB... >>> >>> I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the >>> dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of >>> insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo >>> lame) >>> >>> In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to >>> mess with our morals :-)..." >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein >> > wrote: >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:- >>> >>> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been >>> unable to Regulate torrents? >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka >> > wrote: >>> >>> Ali, >>> >>> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without >>> having to use those VPN accounts... >>> >>> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated? >>> >>> >>> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya >>> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require >>> regulation? >>> >>> Rgds >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein >> > wrote: >>> Ngigi >>> >>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday. >>> >>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them. >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> I just came across this >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html >>> >>> >>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate >>> Netflix. >>> >>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access >>> it? >>> >>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film >>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have >>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves >>> KFCB. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750|Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect >>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Waithaka Ngigi >>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod >>> Building >>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 >>> <> >>> www.at.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chuksjonia%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. 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Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From njukey at gmail.com Tue Jan 12 13:16:34 2016 From: njukey at gmail.com (David Njuki) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:16:34 +0400 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <8CC54E05-1D68-4191-BFDD-4BDED550F55F@hussein.me.ke> <1F1F5ACE-EB62-4904-92DB-F70B030D80D1@hussein.me.ke> <5063A664-E0D6-44F6-98AB-A93C328B816C@hussein.me.ke> <008401d14c5b$f4c8a4a0$de59ede0$@cofek.co.ke> Message-ID: > > It's a pipe dream - how do you regulate the internet? Netflix is simply > another streaming service - like YouTube... > This is the first thing that came to mind when I heard about the regulation. There are already dozens of sites where you can easily stream _film(s)_ for free. I wonder how Netflix is different in their eyes, considering in this case you also have to eventually pay a subscription fee. Their view is pointless but I doubt the folks at KFCB will dare admit it publicly now that they have declared their stand. -- Regards, David. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Tue Jan 12 14:10:52 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:10:52 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: , <1430961862.3499731.1452531064381.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>, , Message-ID: "Ezekiel Mutua, the KFCB chief executive, insisted that Kenya?s membership of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) gives it the mandate to fully regulate and govern its cyberspace, making Netflix no exception." Really? This shows that the regulator was not consulted on the practicality of this matter. Like I said, KFCB needs a brief on the ABC of streaming. Thanks Ngigi for sharing. RgdsGG Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:11:12 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ngigi at at.co.ke; kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com And I guess, wisdom prevails (...CA disagrees on regulating Netflix...) http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Regulators-clash-over-plan-to-censor-Netflix-online-movies/-/539550/3029548/-/ukn4yz/-/index.html On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: @Walu, You know how it is with great ..... :-) See you tomorrow.... On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Walubengo J wrote: @Ngigi, You have just pre-empted my tomorrows article/blog. Now folks may not have to read it :-( walu. From: Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet To: jwalu at yahoo.com Cc: Ngigi Waithaka Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya Mwendwa,Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both?Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US?Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US?Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in KenyaCan an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya?Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and understood across the board.Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations in Busia... Is it practical?Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi Arabia, how would this work in practice?IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by policing...The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not extend to our houses.RgdsOn Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" wrote: > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account where there will only be kids content. > Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. Interested to see how this plays out. > > ----- Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This is where VPN services rake in the money. Regards _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.-- Regards,Waithaka NgigiChief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod BuildingT +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000www.at.co.ke _______________________________________________kictanet mailing listkictanet at lists.kictanet.or.kehttps://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanetUnsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.comThe Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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URL: From tej at bedi.bz Tue Jan 12 14:34:28 2016 From: tej at bedi.bz (Tejpal Bedi) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 14:34:28 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: References: <1430961862.3499731.1452531064381.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On this one I will say that with the new CS of ICT, Joe Mucheru , we are in good hands:) I very much look forward to him making everyone understand the dynamics in this industry and it is not easy to regulate the Internet content. Hoping that he will help KFCB understand that it is not a Movie that is being played in a movie house but on the Internet....there is a BIG difference. In regards to content regulation we need a holistic policy not just Netflix to help us protect our children and citizens from the negative effects of the Internet. -- Tej Bedi On 12 January 2016 at 14:10, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > "Ezekiel Mutua, the KFCB chief executive, insisted that Kenya?s membership > of the International Telecommunications Union (ITU) gives it the mandate to > fully regulate and govern its cyberspace, making Netflix no exception." > > Really? This shows that the regulator was not consulted on the > practicality of this matter. Like I said, KFCB needs a brief on the ABC of > streaming. > > Thanks Ngigi for sharing. > > Rgds > GG > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 23:11:12 +0300 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > CC: ngigi at at.co.ke; kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > > And I guess, wisdom prevails (...CA disagrees on regulating Netflix...) > > > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Regulators-clash-over-plan-to-censor-Netflix-online-movies/-/539550/3029548/-/ukn4yz/-/index.html > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Ngigi Waithaka wrote: > > @Walu, > > You know how it is with great ..... :-) > > See you tomorrow.... > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Walubengo J wrote: > > @Ngigi, > > You have just pre-empted my tomorrows article/blog. Now folks may not have > to read it :-( > > walu. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet > *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com > *Cc:* Ngigi Waithaka > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > > Mwendwa, > > Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? > > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US? > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US? > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? > > Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and > understood across the board. > > Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations > in Busia... Is it practical? > > Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, > something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi > Arabia, how would this work in practice? > > IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will > always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The > only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by > policing... > > The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the > public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not > extend to our houses. > > Rgds > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is > compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account > where there will only be kids content. > > > Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically > classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is > acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. > > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. > Interested to see how this plays out. > > > > ----- > Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and > you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This > is where VPN services rake in the money. > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or > change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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Netflix is not for the ?Internet bundles? community | ? | | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | | Netflix is not for the ?Internet bundles? communityWhy DStv, Zuku and the mobile providers can sit pretty and welcome Netflix into the market. | | | | View on www.nation.co.ke | Preview by Yahoo | | | | ? | If you were in my class, I would have said you stole my marking scheme and have you investigated :-) walu. From: Ngigi Waithaka To: Walubengo J Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya @Walu, You know how it is with great ..... :-) See you tomorrow.... On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Walubengo J wrote: @Ngigi, You have just pre-empted my tomorrows article/blog. Now folks may not have to read it :-( walu. From: Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet To: jwalu at yahoo.com Cc: Ngigi Waithaka Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya Mwendwa, Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US?Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US?Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in KenyaCan an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and understood across the board. Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations in Busia... Is it practical? Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi Arabia, how would this work in practice? IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by policing... The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not extend to our houses. Rgds On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" wrote: > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account where there will only be kids content. >Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards.> But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. Interested to see how this plays out. > > -----Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This is where VPN services rake in the money.Regards _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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We shouldn't jump in the bandwagon of curtailing our freedoms. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Riyaz Bachani > Date: 12 January 2016 at 10:18:24 PM EAT > To: Ali Hussein > Subject: pakistani youtube > > http://www.dailydot.com/politics/google-youtube-pakistan-censorship-country-specific-site/ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 13 06:03:48 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 06:03:48 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Cryptocurrencies: What next for Kenya? 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 13 12:18:34 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke> Linda Please see my responses against your comments Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng wrote: > > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: > > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or users of online platforms. Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? > > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we support such content? Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us all. We should fight it with all we have. > > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of 'Serikali saidia'! > > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not affected by these challenges? > Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the same script. > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and they really need to continue in the same vein. > > Regards > > Linda > Amazon Tech Heights. Org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions on them regarding their services. Please, let us be clear what we are talking about. Best regards, Brian On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Linda > > Please see my responses against your comments > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng wrote: > > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically > on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: > > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the > regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the > laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are > using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the > only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, > the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or > users of online platforms. > > > Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and > dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why > don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) > services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? > > > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against > infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our > national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most > of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as > suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to > children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have > access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we > support such content? > > > Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide > Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us > all. We should fight it with all we have. > > > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media reports > have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these > platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion > as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt > manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the > subscription restrictions, we should ask? > > > Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us > asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our > sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in > our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of > 'Serikali saidia'! > > > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material > available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The > source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. > Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of > content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given > all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of > content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not > affected by these challenges? > > Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our > homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the > same script. > > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content > coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly > then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as > expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in > that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be > against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. > > > Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script > has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on > with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it > also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives > (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the > decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and > they really need to continue in the same vein. > > > Regards > > Linda > *Amazon Tech Heights. Org* > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions (Ali Hussein) > 2. Fwd: Legislative Update (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300 > From: Ali Hussein > > To: Linda Ochieng > > Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke " < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >, > "mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com " >, "jwalu at yahoo.com " > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Message-ID: <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A at hussein.me.ke > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Linda > > Please see my responses against your comments > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng > wrote: > > > > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts > specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: > > > > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to > the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the > laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are > using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the > only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, > the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or > users of online platforms. > > Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and > dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why > don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) > services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? > > > > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against > infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our > national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most > of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as > suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to > children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have > access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we > support such content? > > Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide > Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us > all. We should fight it with all we have. > > > > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media > reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on > these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable > suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such > an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, > beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? > > Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us > asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our > sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in > our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of > 'Serikali saidia'! > > > > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material > available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The > source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. > Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of > content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given > all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of > content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not > affected by these challenges? > > > Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our > homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the > same script. > > > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content > coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. > Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification > as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must > in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be > against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. > > Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script > has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on > with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it > also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives > (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the > decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and > they really need to continue in the same vein. > > > > Regards > > > > Linda > > Amazon Tech Heights. 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URL: From nmutungu at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 13:18:48 2016 From: nmutungu at gmail.com (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:18:48 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: In related matters, has anyone accessed the KFCB Film Classification Manual? It would be interesting to understand the parameters followed in classifying films. Regards, 2016-01-13 13:06 GMT+03:00 Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > Hi all, > > I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the > people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not > "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. > They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is > hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is > therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions > on them regarding their services. > > Please, let us be clear what we are talking about. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Linda >> >> Please see my responses against your comments >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng wrote: >> >> I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically >> on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: >> >> One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the >> regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the >> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are >> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the >> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, >> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or >> users of online platforms. >> >> >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and >> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why >> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) >> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? >> >> >> Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against >> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our >> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most >> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as >> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to >> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have >> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we >> support such content? >> >> >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide >> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us >> all. We should fight it with all we have. >> >> >> Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media reports >> have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these >> platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion >> as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt >> manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the >> subscription restrictions, we should ask? >> >> >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us >> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our >> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in >> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of >> 'Serikali saidia'! >> >> >> Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material >> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The >> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. >> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of >> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given >> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of >> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not >> affected by these challenges? >> >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our >> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the >> same script. >> >> As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content >> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly >> then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as >> expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in >> that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be >> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. >> >> >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script >> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on >> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it >> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives >> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the >> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and >> they really need to continue in the same vein. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Linda >> *Amazon Tech Heights. 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URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Wed Jan 13 13:56:54 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:56:54 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: On Jan 13, 2016 1:06 PM, "Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. 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On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti via kictanet wrote: > Linda makes a good case, Re: regulation of Netflix > > Just wondering if you are aware one can set a 'child' account. > > IMO, the supposed regulation will at best stir curiosity. Remember the > banning of 'The Wolf of Wall Street' locally? The effects were opposite of > the intent. > > We ought to champion for self regulation and individual commitment to > uphold the right values. > > The cyber space is a different kind of a beast. > > On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, > wrote: > >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions (Ali Hussein) >> 2. Fwd: Legislative Update (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300 >> From: Ali Hussein > >> To: Linda Ochieng > >> Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke " < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >, >> "mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com " > >, "jwalu at yahoo.com " >> > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> Message-ID: <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A at hussein.me.ke >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Linda >> >> Please see my responses against your comments >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng > > wrote: >> > >> > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts >> specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: >> > >> > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to >> the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all >> the >> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they >> are >> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is >> the >> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, >> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or >> users of online platforms. >> >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and >> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. >> Why >> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) >> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? >> > >> > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against >> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our >> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most >> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated >> as >> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to >> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children >> have >> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we >> support such content? >> >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide >> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us >> all. We should fight it with all we have. >> > >> > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media >> reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on >> these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable >> suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in >> such >> an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, >> beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? >> >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us >> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in >> our >> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police >> in >> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality >> of >> 'Serikali saidia'! >> > >> > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material >> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The >> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. >> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of >> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given >> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of >> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is >> not >> affected by these challenges? >> > >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our >> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from >> the >> same script. >> >> > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content >> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without >> exception. >> Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification >> as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and >> must >> in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be >> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. >> >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script >> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on >> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know >> it >> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives >> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of >> the >> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and >> they really need to continue in the same vein. >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Linda >> > Amazon Tech Heights. 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It came into operation upon publication in the Gazette on >> 24th December, 2015. >> >> *Government Proceedings (Amendment) Act, No. 35 of 2015 >> < >> http://kenyalaw.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f42c73e8d9f3ec44858944bb5&id=fd14e48ecb&e=66073bbaf9 >> >* >> The purpose of this Act is to amend the Government Proceedings Act, >> Cap.40 >> and it came into operation on 7th January, 2016. >> >> *Kenya National Examination Council (Amendment) Act, No. 31 of 2015* >> < >> http://kenyalaw.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f42c73e8d9f3ec44858944bb5&id=d4cddf7408&e=66073bbaf9 >> > >> The purpose of this Act is to amend the Kenya National Examination >> Council >> Act, Cap.225. 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In reflecting about what worked well and possible improvements for IGF 2016, the Internet community is invited to think about all aspects of the IGF: themes, structure of the conference, network of local/regional IGFs, intersessional activities leading to tangible outputs, etc. On this note, I invite you to read and share through your networks the following reports that where finalized and recently published by the IGF Secretariat: * The IGF Best Practices Handbook * The IGF Policy Options for Connecting the Next Billion The deadline for submitting contributions is 12 February 2016. All ISOC members and chapters are invited to take part in the IGF consultation. Best, Constance -- Barrack O. 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 13 15:03:24 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:03:24 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: <1F4B5D4C-CCE9-41C6-8605-173BE1375D42@hussein.me.ke> Brian Umesema kama watu kumi. (Spoken like 10 wise men) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2016, at 1:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe wrote: > > Hi all, > > I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions on them regarding their services. > > Please, let us be clear what we are talking about. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: >> Linda >> >> Please see my responses against your comments >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng wrote: >>> >>> I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: >>> >>> One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or users of online platforms. >> >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? >>> >>> Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we support such content? >> >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us all. We should fight it with all we have. >>> >>> Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? >> >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of 'Serikali saidia'! >>> >>> Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not affected by these challenges? >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the same script. >> >>> As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. >> >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and they really need to continue in the same vein. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Linda >>> Amazon Tech Heights. 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URL: From jkinoti at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 15:28:06 2016 From: jkinoti at gmail.com (Josh Kinoti) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:28:06 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 47 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Barrack, you are right. We are 'advancing' as a people at the expense of the traditional values of our society. Having said that, notice how this conversation is slowly turning to a discussion about morals and ethics. Not sure, if the outcome will be fruitful in that regard. As a way forward, I would suggest enforcing of certain factors such as parental control - for all OTTP related services. Who knows the videos our children share with their friends on Whatsapp, IG ... Specifically, my opinion is a local used legislation must be inclusive and multifaceted. Mere blocking of content might be a simplistic approach to a complex situation. On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, Barrack Otieno wrote: > Hi Colleagues, > > Just to weigh in on this discussion. > > Its hard to be a government officer in this day and age :-). We are > not doing well on the Social Pillar in so far as our Vision 2030 > aspirations are concerned. This has to do with our value systems as a > nation. Value systems are largely developed through what we hear, what > we read and what we see, some of us are lucky to have grown when value > systems existed. Regardless of the technological, cross border and > geo-political aspects at play we have to achieve balance. I therefore > pose this question to colleagues? > > What would you do if you were in charge of the Kenya Film > Classification board in light of national aspirations and > constitutional expectations? > > Ready to receive views for and against. > > On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti via kictanet > wrote: > > Linda makes a good case, Re: regulation of Netflix > > > > Just wondering if you are aware one can set a 'child' account. > > > > IMO, the supposed regulation will at best stir curiosity. Remember the > > banning of 'The Wolf of Wall Street' locally? The effects were opposite > of > > the intent. > > > > We ought to champion for self regulation and individual commitment to > > uphold the right values. > > > > The cyber space is a different kind of a beast. > > > > On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, > > > wrote: > > > >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions (Ali Hussein) > >> 2. Fwd: Legislative Update (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300 > >> From: Ali Hussein > > >> To: Linda Ochieng > > > >> Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke " < > >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >, > >> "mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com " < > mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com > >> >, "jwalu at yahoo.com " > >> > > >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > >> Message-ID: <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A at hussein.me.ke > > >> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> Linda > >> > >> Please see my responses against your comments > >> > >> Ali Hussein > >> Principal > >> Hussein & Associates > >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > >> > >> Twitter: @AliHKassim > >> Skype: abu-jomo > >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com > >> > >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts > >> specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: > >> > > >> > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to > >> the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all > >> the > >> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they > >> are > >> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is > >> the > >> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, > >> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or > >> users of online platforms. > >> > >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and > >> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. > >> Why > >> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the > Top) > >> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? > >> > > >> > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace > against > >> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our > >> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that > most > >> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated > >> as > >> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to > >> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children > >> have > >> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we > >> support such content? > >> > >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World > Wide > >> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us > >> all. We should fight it with all we have. > >> > > >> > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media > >> reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on > >> these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable > >> suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in > >> such > >> an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, > >> beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? > >> > >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us > >> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in > >> our > >> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police > >> in > >> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality > >> of > >> 'Serikali saidia'! > >> > > >> > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material > >> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The > >> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. > >> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of > >> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given > >> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of > >> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is > >> not > >> affected by these challenges? > >> > > >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our > >> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from > >> the > >> same script. > >> > >> > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all > content > >> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without > >> exception. > >> Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for > classification > >> as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and > >> must > >> in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be > >> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. > >> > >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script > >> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on > >> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know > >> it > >> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us > positives > >> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of > >> the > >> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) > and > >> they really need to continue in the same vein. > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > Linda > >> > Amazon Tech Heights. 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On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti wrote: > Barrack, you are right. We are 'advancing' as a people at the expense of > the traditional values of our society. > > Having said that, notice how this conversation is slowly turning to a > discussion about morals and ethics. > > Not sure, if the outcome will be fruitful in that regard. > > As a way forward, I would suggest enforcing of certain factors such as > parental control - for all OTTP related services. Who knows the videos our > children share with their friends on Whatsapp, IG ... > > Specifically, my opinion is a local used legislation must be inclusive and > multifaceted. Mere blocking of content might be a simplistic approach to a > complex situation. > > On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, Barrack Otieno > wrote: > >> Hi Colleagues, >> >> Just to weigh in on this discussion. >> >> Its hard to be a government officer in this day and age :-). We are >> not doing well on the Social Pillar in so far as our Vision 2030 >> aspirations are concerned. This has to do with our value systems as a >> nation. Value systems are largely developed through what we hear, what >> we read and what we see, some of us are lucky to have grown when value >> systems existed. Regardless of the technological, cross border and >> geo-political aspects at play we have to achieve balance. I therefore >> pose this question to colleagues? >> >> What would you do if you were in charge of the Kenya Film >> Classification board in light of national aspirations and >> constitutional expectations? >> >> Ready to receive views for and against. >> >> On 1/13/16, Josh Kinoti via kictanet > > wrote: >> > Linda makes a good case, Re: regulation of Netflix >> > >> > Just wondering if you are aware one can set a 'child' account. >> > >> > IMO, the supposed regulation will at best stir curiosity. Remember the >> > banning of 'The Wolf of Wall Street' locally? The effects were opposite >> of >> > the intent. >> > >> > We ought to champion for self regulation and individual commitment to >> > uphold the right values. >> > >> > The cyber space is a different kind of a beast. >> > >> > On Wednesday, 13 January 2016, > > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> >> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> >> >> 1. Re: Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions (Ali Hussein) >> >> 2. Fwd: Legislative Update (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 12:18:34 +0300 >> >> From: Ali Hussein > >> >> To: Linda Ochieng >> > >> >> Cc: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke " < >> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >, >> >> "mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com " < >> mutua.ezekiel at yahoo.com >> >> >, "jwalu at yahoo.com " >> >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions >> >> Message-ID: <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A at hussein.me.ke >> >> >> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> Please see my responses against your comments >> >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> Principal >> >> Hussein & Associates >> >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> >> > On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts >> >> specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: >> >> > >> >> > One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere >> >> > to >> >> the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with >> >> all >> >> the >> >> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they >> >> are >> >> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That >> >> is >> >> the >> >> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you >> >> know, >> >> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or >> >> users of online platforms. >> >> >> >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and >> >> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators >> >> disagreeing. >> >> Why >> >> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the >> Top) >> >> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? >> >> > >> >> > Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace >> against >> >> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our >> >> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that >> most >> >> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are >> >> rated >> >> as >> >> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown >> >> to >> >> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children >> >> have >> >> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we >> >> support such content? >> >> >> >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World >> Wide >> >> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of >> >> us >> >> all. We should fight it with all we have. >> >> > >> >> > Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media >> >> reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on >> >> these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable >> >> suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in >> >> such >> >> an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, >> >> beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? >> >> >> >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of >> >> us >> >> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch >> >> in >> >> our >> >> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality >> >> Police >> >> in >> >> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this >> >> mentality >> >> of >> >> 'Serikali saidia'! >> >> > >> >> > Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic >> >> > material >> >> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The >> >> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. >> >> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of >> >> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be >> >> given >> >> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind >> >> of >> >> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is >> >> not >> >> affected by these challenges? >> >> > >> >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter >> >> our >> >> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading >> >> from >> >> the >> >> same script. >> >> >> >> > As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all >> content >> >> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without >> >> exception. >> >> Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for >> classification >> >> as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and >> >> must >> >> in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be >> >> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. >> >> >> >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the >> >> script >> >> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get >> >> on >> >> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we >> >> know >> >> it >> >> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us >> positives >> >> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some >> >> of >> >> the >> >> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) >> and >> >> they really need to continue in the same vein. >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > Linda >> >> > Amazon Tech Heights. 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Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From mkipyegon at outlook.com Wed Jan 13 15:50:52 2016 From: mkipyegon at outlook.com (Mark Kipyegon) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 15:50:52 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 51 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Collectively, do we really need rules and regulations to uphold "traditional values"? IMO this is a social issue and not something that requires technical controls. On 13/01/2016 15:34, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Having said that, notice how this conversation is slowly turning to a > discussion about morals and ethics. > > Not sure, if the outcome will be fruitful in that regard. > > As a way forward, I would suggest enforcing of certain factors such as > parental control - for all OTTP related services. 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On 1/13/16, Mark Kipyegon via kictanet wrote: > Collectively, do we really need rules and regulations to uphold > "traditional values"? > > IMO this is a social issue and not something that requires technical > controls. > > On 13/01/2016 15:34, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > >> >> Having said that, notice how this conversation is slowly turning to a >> discussion about morals and ethics. >> >> Not sure, if the outcome will be fruitful in that regard. >> >> As a way forward, I would suggest enforcing of certain factors such as >> parental control - for all OTTP related services. Who knows the videos >> our >> children share with their friends on Whatsapp, IG ... >> >> Specifically, my opinion is a local used legislation must be inclusive >> and >> multifaceted. Mere blocking of content might be a simplistic approach to >> a >> complex situation. >> >> > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From chemukoechk at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 17:32:39 2016 From: chemukoechk at gmail.com (Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:32:39 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: <1F4B5D4C-CCE9-41C6-8605-173BE1375D42@hussein.me.ke> References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke> <1F4B5D4C-CCE9-41C6-8605-173BE1375D42@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Hi, As a new member to the list has been amazing to read the various points of view on this matter. My take is that i feel that regulators are losing touch with reality by failing to engage relevant stakeholders before decisions are made. My first concern is do we have research teams in our regulatory bodies who actually sit and advice on modern trends before they come up with opinions which lead to regulations? If so do they have the right people assisting them to get the correct and relevant information? Do they engage in research to see how other jurisdictions have handled the issues and maybe question if they can make improvements or at least make informed decisions? As a lawyer there is an intrinsic understanding of the fact that regulations must be responsive to the trends of the day otherwise the law becomes an ass(the donkey's relative). There must be a push to ensure that there is a reasonable approach to all issues and in my opinion the communication authority is acting like a voice of reason. To show the levels of disconnect by the KFCB they even used an analogy of radicalization to justify the regulation of Netflix. Someone somewhere is clearly not doing their homework. Yes there is a need to ensure morality but I doubt reacting like a high handed pariah state will help. If Netflix begins to partner with local providers then regulation will be justified however if they continue as an over the top (OTT) service then the regulators have no jurisdiction. Roemary Koech-Kimwatu +254718181644/771632344 Linkein:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Brian > > Umesema kama watu kumi. (Spoken like 10 wise men) > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 13 Jan 2016, at 1:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe wrote: > > Hi all, > > I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the > people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not > "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. > They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is > hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is > therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions > on them regarding their services. > > Please, let us be clear what we are talking about. > > Best regards, > > Brian > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Linda >> >> Please see my responses against your comments >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng wrote: >> >> I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically >> on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: >> >> One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the >> regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the >> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are >> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the >> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, >> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or >> users of online platforms. >> >> >> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and >> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why >> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) >> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? >> >> >> Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against >> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our >> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most >> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as >> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to >> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have >> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we >> support such content? >> >> >> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide >> Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us >> all. We should fight it with all we have. >> >> >> Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media reports >> have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these >> platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion >> as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt >> manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the >> subscription restrictions, we should ask? >> >> >> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us >> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our >> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in >> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of >> 'Serikali saidia'! >> >> >> Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material >> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The >> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. >> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of >> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given >> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of >> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not >> affected by these challenges? >> >> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our >> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the >> same script. >> >> As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content >> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly >> then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as >> expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in >> that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be >> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. >> >> >> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script >> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on >> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it >> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives >> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the >> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and >> they really need to continue in the same vein. >> >> >> Regards >> >> Linda >> *Amazon Tech Heights. 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URL: From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Wed Jan 13 17:43:26 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:43:26 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke> <1F4B5D4C-CCE9-41C6-8605-173BE1375D42@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: I think the issue of engagement with key relevant stakeholders in the tech sector is something that is very commonly mentioned in this discussion group. Or am I seeing this myself? On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hi, > As a new member to the list has been amazing to read the various points of > view on this matter. > > My take is that i feel that regulators are losing touch with reality by > failing to engage relevant stakeholders before decisions are made. My first > concern is do we have research teams in our regulatory bodies who actually > sit and advice on modern trends before they come up with opinions which > lead to regulations? If so do they have the right people assisting them to > get the correct and relevant information? Do they engage in research to see > how other jurisdictions have handled the issues and maybe question if they > can make improvements or at least make informed decisions? > > As a lawyer there is an intrinsic understanding of the fact that > regulations must be responsive to the trends of the day otherwise the law > becomes an ass(the donkey's relative). > > There must be a push to ensure that there is a reasonable approach to all > issues and in my opinion the communication authority is acting like a voice > of reason. To show the levels of disconnect by the KFCB they even used an > analogy of radicalization to justify the regulation of Netflix. Someone > somewhere is clearly not doing their homework. > > Yes there is a need to ensure morality but I doubt reacting like a high > handed pariah state will help. If Netflix begins to partner with local > providers then regulation will be justified however if they continue as an > over the top (OTT) service then the regulators have no jurisdiction. > > Roemary Koech-Kimwatu > +254718181644/771632344 > Linkein:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu > > > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Brian >> >> Umesema kama watu kumi. (Spoken like 10 wise men) >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 13 Jan 2016, at 1:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe >> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the >> people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not >> "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. >> They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is >> hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is >> therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions >> on them regarding their services. >> >> Please, let us be clear what we are talking about. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Brian >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Linda >>> >>> Please see my responses against your comments >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts >>> specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: >>> >>> One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to >>> the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the >>> laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are >>> using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the >>> only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, >>> the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or >>> users of online platforms. >>> >>> >>> Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and >>> dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why >>> don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) >>> services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? >>> >>> >>> Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against >>> infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our >>> national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most >>> of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as >>> suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to >>> children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have >>> access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we >>> support such content? >>> >>> >>> Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World >>> Wide Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of >>> us all. We should fight it with all we have. >>> >>> >>> Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media >>> reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on >>> these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable >>> suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such >>> an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, >>> beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? >>> >>> >>> Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us >>> asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our >>> sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in >>> our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of >>> 'Serikali saidia'! >>> >>> >>> Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material >>> available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The >>> source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. >>> Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of >>> content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given >>> all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of >>> content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not >>> affected by these challenges? >>> >>> Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our >>> homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the >>> same script. >>> >>> As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content >>> coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly >>> then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as >>> expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in >>> that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be >>> against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. >>> >>> >>> Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script >>> has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on >>> with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it >>> also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives >>> (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the >>> decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and >>> they really need to continue in the same vein. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Linda >>> *Amazon Tech Heights. Org* >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chemukoechk%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 13 18:44:49 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:44:49 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Paying more attention to hardware and the Internet of Things In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great initiative Ahmed. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2016, at 4:31 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet wrote: > > Listers, > > This may sound a bit like self promotion. But the idea is that we sat down as players of different innovation areas and we thought that it is about time we come up with ways to boost innovation in Hardware and Internet of Things. Although the concept does exist in our local innovation scene, its not being tackled head on. So we figured it would be wise to raise an initiative around it. So we are trying to form an initiative dubbed the IoT Developers Africa initiative and have outlined why it is key and strategic to the innovation sector in Sub Saharan Africa. > > More is explained here: https://letafricainnovate.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/announcing-the-iot-developers-africa-initiative/ > > -- > Ahmed Maawy > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Wed Jan 13 19:10:22 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:10:22 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix, CS Mucheru speaks... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Keep-hands-off-Netflix-for-now-orders-new-CS/-/996/3032360/-/bxpdcxz/-/index.html ?We want the businesses of OTTs to actually be based here. There is a huge debate as to whether we will be billing or charging Netflix, and I think OTT should feel comfortable to invest in Kenya,? ?The government is responsible for regulation, policy will come from government then it will be regulated but this will take some time. Regulators have to wait.?- Mr Mucheru -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 13 19:49:01 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:49:01 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix, CS Mucheru speaks... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71273721-732A-4CEC-B236-FCD19A61248F@hussein.me.ke> Good direction from the CS. ThIs paragraph caught my eye. Mr Ezekiel Mutua, the KFCB chief executive, on the other hand, said it had written to Netflix raising its concerns on regulation, since it has the mandate to fully regulate its cyberspace. We need to dissuade and educate government officials who still don't get the Internet Governance space. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 13 Jan 2016, at 7:10 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: > > http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Keep-hands-off-Netflix-for-now-orders-new-CS/-/996/3032360/-/bxpdcxz/-/index.html > > ?We want the businesses of OTTs to actually be based here. There is a huge debate as to whether we will be billing or charging Netflix, and I think OTT should feel comfortable to invest in Kenya,? ?The government is responsible for regulation, policy will come from government then it will be regulated but this will take some time. Regulators have to wait.?- Mr Mucheru > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lnjogu at hotmail.com Wed Jan 13 19:52:55 2016 From: lnjogu at hotmail.com (Lawrence Njogu) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:52:55 -0500 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix, CS Mucheru speaks... In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Kudos Mucheru!! I agree that the policy framework should come from the govt...and should also be comprehensive to include all OTT content providers e.g Google Play movies, Amazon movies, Hulu Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 19:10:22 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix, CS Mucheru speaks... From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com To: lnjogu at hotmail.com http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Keep-hands-off-Netflix-for-now-orders-new-CS/-/996/3032360/-/bxpdcxz/-/index.html ?We want the businesses of OTTs to actually be based here. There is a huge debate as to whether we will be billing or charging Netflix, and I think OTT should feel comfortable to invest in Kenya,? ?The government is responsible for regulation, policy will come from government then it will be regulated but this will take some time. Regulators have to wait.?- Mr Mucheru _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/lnjogu%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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There is a huge > debate as to whether we will be billing or charging Netflix, and I think > OTT should feel comfortable to invest in Kenya,? ?The government is > responsible for regulation, policy will come from government then it will > be regulated but this will take some time. Regulators have to wait.?- Mr > Mucheru > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chemukoechk%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Thu Jan 14 04:18:06 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 04:18:06 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] =?utf-8?q?eSIM_for_consumers=E2=80=94a_game_changer_in?= =?utf-8?q?_mobile_telecommunications=3F?= Message-ID: Listers Very interesting article on telecoms. In 2011, Apple was granted a US patent to create a mobile-virtual-network-operator (MVNO) platform that would allow wireless networks to place bids for the right to provide their network services to Apple, which would then pass those offers on to iPhone customers. Three years later, in 2014, Apple released its own SIM card?the Apple SIM. Installed in iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3 tablets in the United Kingdom and the United States, the Apple SIM allowed customers to select a network operator dynamically, directly from the device. This technology gave users more freedom with regard to network selection. It also changed the competitive landscape for operators. Industry players were somewhat resistant to such a high level of change, and the pushback may have been attributable to the fact that operators so heavily relied on the structure of distribution channels and contractual hardware subsidies. In fundamentally changing the way consumers use SIM cards, Apple?s new technology was sure to disrupt the model at the time. As a technology, e-SIM?s functionality is similar to that of Apple?s MVNO and SIM, since it also presents users with all available operator profiles. Unlike Apple?s technology, however, e-SIM enables dynamic over-the-air provisioning once a network is selected. Today, the industry is reacting much more favorably. One driver of the shift in sentiment is the recent focus on the push by the GSMA to align all ecosystem participants on a standardized reference architecture in order to introduce e-SIMs. What?s more, machine-to-machine (M2M) applications have used this architecture for built-in SIM cards for several years now with great success. Read on http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/telecommunications/E_SIM_for_consumers_a_game_changer_in_mobile_telecommunications?cid=other-eml-alt-mip-mck-oth-1601 Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkinoti at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 07:51:20 2016 From: jkinoti at gmail.com (Josh Kinoti) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:51:20 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix, CS Mucheru speaks... Message-ID: Dear Listers, It's good to see that the CS has stepped in to give guidance to the matters. We will need a policy informed approach to regulation. And yes, the issues that many have raised are fundamental to the discussion. As such a knee-jerk response will not hack it. Hope now we can look at the best practices and formulate a robust policy that all OTT providers will be required to adhere to. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sidney.ochieng at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 08:39:01 2016 From: sidney.ochieng at gmail.com (Sidney Ochieng) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:39:01 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya In-Reply-To: <1275152834.3812975.1452611469877.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1275152834.3812975.1452611469877.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: #NetflixInKenya - Not As Bleak As Others Would Have Us Believe http://www.iafrikan.com/2016/01/14/thoughts-on-netflix-in-kenya/ Just thought I'd add my two cents ? Regards, Sidney Touched not typed On 12 Jan 2016 18:15, "Walubengo J via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > @Ngigi > > Here is the piece... > > Netflix is not for the ?Internet bundles? community > > > > [image: image] > > > > > > > Netflix is not for the ?Internet bundles? community > > Why DStv, Zuku and the mobile providers can sit pretty and welcome Netflix > into the market. > View on www.nation.co.ke > > Preview by Yahoo > > > If you were in my class, I would have said you stole my marking scheme and > have you investigated :-) > > walu. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ngigi Waithaka > *To:* Walubengo J > *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 8:08 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > > @Walu, > > You know how it is with great ..... :-) > > See you tomorrow.... > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Walubengo J wrote: > > @Ngigi, > > You have just pre-empted my tomorrows article/blog. Now folks may not have > to read it :-( > > walu. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet > *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com > *Cc:* Ngigi Waithaka > *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 7:35 PM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya > > Mwendwa, > > Does the law classify content based on where it is played, viewed or both? > > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites based in US? > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites based in the US? > Can a Kenyan in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya > Can an American in Kenya access adult sites in Kenya? > > Before we talk regulation, these have to be very clearly defined and > understood across the board. > > Also, KFSB rushing to regulate Netflix is like banning Uganda FM stations > in Busia... Is it practical? > > Short of mass surveillance and content blocking at our Internet Gateways, > something that puts us in the league of countries like North Korea & Saudi > Arabia, how would this work in practice? > > IMO, any content (...The following movie is rated Adults Only)...will > always be available for those who are really interested in getting it. The > only way we could regulate ourselves is from our Society Norms not by > policing... > > The only area that I see as a possible regulation ground is where the > public is involved... e.g Cinemas, Music Concerts but this should not > extend to our houses. > > Rgds > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2016 11:55 AM, "James Wamathai via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > I don't think they know how Netflix works and in any case the service is > compliant in that it gives the user the ability to create a kids account > where there will only be kids content. > > > Wamaitha, No. The service is not compliant becase the law specifically > classifies content that all of us should not access. Some Content that is > acceptable by US standards is not acceptable by Kenyan standards. > > But even if we were talk regulation, I don't see how they would do that. > Interested to see how this plays out. > > > > ----- > Netflix would simply ask KFCB to give them a list of content to block, and > you would not be able to access that content using a Kenyan account. This > is where VPN services rake in the money. > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From njukey at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 09:21:42 2016 From: njukey at gmail.com (David Njuki) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:21:42 +0400 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [afnog] African Telecoms Review for 2015 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2015 summary about the telecoms infrastructure on the continent. "It is also possible to see that China dominates the terrestrial fibre network industry in sub-Saharan Africa." Regards, David. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven G. 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You can review the advertisement on http://www.icta.go.ke/chief-executive-officer-vacancy/ Applications should be made to: board.chairman at ict.go.ke Applications must be submitted on or before *29th January 2016.* *Please share widely with your networks.* Kind Regards, Phyllis Nyambura Communication Writer The ICT Authority Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave P.O. Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke Visit: www.icta.go.ke Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE --------------------- -- ICT Authority Telposta Towers 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi Kenya Tel: +254 20 2211960 www.icta.go.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The advertisement was carried out in today?s local dailies. > > > You can review the advertisement on > http://www.icta.go.ke/chief-executive-officer-vacancy/ > > > > > Applications should be made to: board.chairman at ict.go.ke > > > > > Applications must be submitted on or before *29th January 2016.* > > > *Please share widely with your networks.* > > > > Kind Regards, > Phyllis Nyambura > Communication Writer > The ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave > P.O. 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URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Thu Jan 14 12:02:13 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:02:13 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions In-Reply-To: References: <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <240080776.4571597.1452661851594.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>, <14770024-77B9-4CE1-9119-F5292F19F75A@hussein.me.ke>, , <1F4B5D4C-CCE9-41C6-8605-173BE1375D42@hussein.me.ke>, Message-ID: @RosemaryYou raise an important issue here: research! I am not sure that even the sector regulator has such a department. Time to consider having this important department(s) so that whenever some pronouncements are made publicly, they can be supported with evidence. RgdsGG Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:32:39 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: chemukoechk at gmail.com To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com Hi, As a new member to the list has been amazing to read the various points of view on this matter. My take is that i feel that regulators are losing touch with reality by failing to engage relevant stakeholders before decisions are made. My first concern is do we have research teams in our regulatory bodies who actually sit and advice on modern trends before they come up with opinions which lead to regulations? If so do they have the right people assisting them to get the correct and relevant information? Do they engage in research to see how other jurisdictions have handled the issues and maybe question if they can make improvements or at least make informed decisions? As a lawyer there is an intrinsic understanding of the fact that regulations must be responsive to the trends of the day otherwise the law becomes an ass(the donkey's relative). There must be a push to ensure that there is a reasonable approach to all issues and in my opinion the communication authority is acting like a voice of reason. To show the levels of disconnect by the KFCB they even used an analogy of radicalization to justify the regulation of Netflix. Someone somewhere is clearly not doing their homework. Yes there is a need to ensure morality but I doubt reacting like a high handed pariah state will help. If Netflix begins to partner with local providers then regulation will be justified however if they continue as an over the top (OTT) service then the regulators have no jurisdiction. Roemary Koech-Kimwatu +254718181644/771632344Linkein:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: Brian Umesema kama watu kumi. (Spoken like 10 wise men) Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 13 Jan 2016, at 1:06 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe wrote: Hi all, I think that one fundamental (and very important) point that most of the people demanding regulation for Netflix overlook is that Netflix has not "come to Kenya". They are not present in the country in any form or shape. They have simply "allowed" Kenyans access to their content - which is hosted outside of Kenya - in response to many years of demand. There is therefore no basis (legal or otherwise) for us to try impose any conditions on them regarding their services. Please, let us be clear what we are talking about. Best regards, Brian On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: Linda Please see my responses against your comments Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 13 Jan 2016, at 8:10 AM, Linda Ochieng wrote: I have been following your discussions here and my thoughts specifically on Netflix and online streaming are as follows: One, as a distributor of audio visual content, Netflix must adhere to the regulations governing distribution of such content in line with all the laws of the Republic of Kenya, irrespective of the type of medium they are using to make that content available to their target consumers. That is the only way the firm?s operations in the country can be legal. As you know, the law applies across the board and does not exempt foreign firms, or users of online platforms. Ali - Internet Governance issues are in play here and it's not cut and dried as you put. That's why you are seeing two regulators disagreeing. Why don't we then go ahead and also regulate all the other OTT (Over the Top) services like YouTube, Facebook video etc? Two, it is in interest of the country to protect our cyberspace against infiltration with content that is overly violent and damaging to our national values and morals and security. I a reliably informed that most of the movies distributed via some of these streaming services are rated as suitable for children, yet they have scenes that should not be shown to children. That is rather unfortunate, given that most of our children have access to the Internet. Whose interest are we protecting then when we support such content? Ali - There is no 'our cyberspace'. That's why it's called the World Wide Web. This suggestion to Balkanise the Internet is to the detriment of us all. We should fight it with all we have. Three and of even greater concern is the fact that British media reports have in fact indicated that some of the content circulating on these platforms requires secret codes to access, raising considerable suspicion as to what kind of information that is to be distributed in such an overt manner. What is the motive of making the information secret, beyond the subscription restrictions, we should ask? Ali - As Uhuru said - Policing should start with us. This business of us asking the government to decide for us everything even what we watch in our sitting rooms is a recipe for disaster. We don't want a Morality Police in our country. It starts with you and I. Let's desist from this mentality of 'Serikali saidia'! Four, there is concern over growing levels of pornographic material available in the country mainly originating from other countries. The source is online platforms. This should worry every good citizen. Radicalization is also one other major concern in online channels of content distribution. This is the reason why KFCB and CA should be given all the support they require by all stakeholders to ensure this kind of content is classified and regulated appropriately. In any case, who is not affected by these challenges? Ali - True. It starts with us. Regulators are not supposed to enter our homes and police us. It's instructive that KFCB and CA are reading from the same script. As I have said, everyone is bound by the law. As it is now, all content coming into the country is subject to the laws of Kenya. Without exception. Clearly then, if Netflix fails to submit their content for classification as expected by the law, their operations in Kenya will be illegal and must in that event face the full force of the laws of Kenya. Let us not be against regulation without considering its benefits to our country. Again true. However, regulators need to also understand that the script has changed. There is a new dispensation afoot. And they need to get on with the program. The days of the telegram are gone. The ITU as we know it also needs to reinvent itself. The CA fortunately is showing us positives (I'm willing to give them the benefit of doubt when it comes to some of the decisions and draft laws they come up. After all we are not perfect!) and they really need to continue in the same vein. Regards LindaAmazon Tech Heights. Org _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chemukoechk%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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On 14 January 2016 at 11:26, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Thanks Phyllis, > But three hard copies in the digital energy saving environmental friendly > era? > Regards, > > 2016-01-14 10:57 GMT+03:00 Phyllis Nyambura via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > >> *Listers,* >> >> >> The ICT Authority is looking to fill the position of the Chief Executive >> Officer. The advertisement was carried out in today?s local dailies. >> >> >> You can review the advertisement on >> http://www.icta.go.ke/chief-executive-officer-vacancy/ >> >> >> >> >> Applications should be made to: board.chairman at ict.go.ke >> >> >> >> >> Applications must be submitted on or before *29th January 2016.* >> >> >> *Please share widely with your networks.* >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> Phyllis Nyambura >> Communication Writer >> The ICT Authority >> >> Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave >> P.O. Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya >> t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke >> Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke >> >> Visit: www.icta.go.ke >> Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE >> >> Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE >> --------------------- >> >> >> ICT Authority >> >> Telposta Towers 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave >> >> PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi Kenya >> >> Tel: +254 20 2211960 >> >> www.icta.go.ke >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u > Nairobi Kenya > Skype: gracebomu > Twitter: @Bomu > > > > PGP ID : 0x33A3450F > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bkwanjau%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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Nonprofits don't know or don't think they need technology to achieveresults.The Challenge BreakthroughWe wantinnovative technology solutions to become commonplace in the nonprofit world,helping to solve issues that affect humanity.DurationThere will be twophases to the challenge: the ideation phase and the implementationphase.?The?ideation phase?will last?for three months, fromthe time registration opens until the final winner is announced.?Theimplementation phase will last?for six months, from the time registrationopens until the final winner is announced.How to Win the ChallengeThe winner mustsubmit an innovative and executable idea that helps solve an important issueaffecting humanity. The winning submission will effectively describe how ituses our CORE software platform to build out the proposed solution, what theidea adds to complement our platform's functionality, and how the idea differsfrom existing solutions aimed at addressing the same problem. NOTE:This competition is equally open to non-developers, who may submit high levelexplanations of how our software can help build out the?proposedsolution.?The winning ideawill be used to create the second part of the challenge: the implementationphase. The finalist and any other developers are welcome to build out thewinning idea. At that time, contestants will have an opportunity to use theCORE platform. Ultimately, our goal is to have a fully functioning finalproduct that can be?deployed for use by relevant nonprofits.the deadline forthe Apps for Humanity Challenge is Feburary 15, 2016??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Thu Jan 14 18:53:12 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 18:53:12 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Cyberpolicy expert interested in human rights? Message-ID: <9DB8DA34-04FD-469A-B31B-4A2060BC2D25@ihub.co.ke> Then this open call from Global Partners Digital might be for you: http://www.gp-digital.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/OpenCall_CCB.pdf For more context: http://www.gp-digital.org/gpd-update/gpd-launches-new-global-programme-to-foster-more-inclusive-cyber-policies/ Regards, Nanjira Sambuli Research Lead iHub | Research | UXLab | Consulting Mobile: +254722481566 Skype: nanjirasambuli | Twitter: @NiNanjira -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature_line.gif Type: image/gif Size: 947 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I hope Article 19 and KNCHR are listening. They have been > very handy previously in submitting informed arguments. > > Regards > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Regards, Sidney Ochieng *Skype:* sidney.ochieng | *Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: * http://sidneyochieng.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Amendment > Zero-Drafts > http://sidneyochieng.co.ke/2016/01/unraveling-the-kenya-information-and-communications-act-ammendment-zero-drafts/ > > On 1 January 2016 at 00:29, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> True Ngigi Waithaka. >> >> We should be vigilant and ensure constitutional safeguards are respected >> and not diluted. I hope Article 19 and KNCHR are listening. They have been >> very handy previously in submitting informed arguments. >> >> Regards >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/sidney.ochieng%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Regards, > > Sidney Ochieng > > *Skype:* sidney.ochieng | *Twitter:* @princelySid | *Website: * > http://sidneyochieng.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here are my thoughts about the occasion: https://www.ietf.org/blog/2016/01/30-years-of-engineering-the-internet/ And happy birthday, IETF, on Saturday! Jari _______________________________________________ InternetOrgs.Collaboration mailing list InternetOrgs.Collaboration at elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internetorgs.collaboration -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Fri Jan 15 10:04:09 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:04:09 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] No Matter where Netflix goes in Africa, it will run into these two problems In-Reply-To: <979730755.5848476.1452836490294.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <979730755.5848476.1452836490294.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9EB03A58-3D60-4504-9460-BBC343B1D731@hussein.me.ke> Walu The writer forgot to mention Regulators! :-) Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: Abu-Jomo LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com > On Jan 15, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet wrote: > > Listers, > for those interested, another view on Netflix, > > No matter where Netflix goes in Africa it will run into these two problems > > > > > > > > > No matter where Netflix goes in Africa it will run into ... > Many people are likely to find themselves Netflix and buffering rather than chilling. > View on qz.com > Preview by Yahoo > > > > -walu. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Fri Jan 15 11:14:34 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:14:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] SA will debate how to stop WhatsApp freeloading off local networks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1. First came the postal mail. 2. Then came the telegram. 3. Then came the telephone. 4. Then came the mobile device. 5. Now, smart people will adopt the potential the Internet and Data presents. On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Josh Kinoti via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > http://qz.com/594278/south-africa-wants-to-regulate-whatsapp/ > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *Ahmed Maawy* Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer swahilibox.co.ke www.okfn.org startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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WACREN and the Internet Society will be working with Ubuntunet and Arab States Research and Education Network (ASREN) to implement this project. This is the largest contribution that the Internet Society is making to African NRENs after its donation of networking equipment worth more than 170,000 USD to WACREN and ASREN back in 2013. Here's a link to the press release for more information: http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-pledges-support-african-research-and-education-networks "Transforming education and research by promoting Internet Infrastructure and skills in Africa"- Blog post by the Internet Society African Regional bureau is out on: https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/africa-bureau-development/2016/01/transforming-education-and-research-promoting-internet And on social media: https://www.facebook.com/ISOCAfrica/ https://twitter.com/ISOC_Africa Regards, Betel ________________________________________ Betel Hailu Communications Coordinator Africa Regional Bureau Internet Society (ISOC) www.InternetSociety.org Follow Us [Description: Macintosh HD:Users:betelhailu:Desktop:facebook.png] [Description: Macintosh HD:Users:betelhailu:Desktop:twitter.png] -- Barrack O. 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So nothing like a major retrospective is planned. However, various IETF milestones will be recognized over the coming year?starting today. To mark the occasion of the first meeting, IETF Chair Jari Arkko has published a blog post: https://www.ietf.org/blog/2016/01/30-years-of-engineering-the-internet/ You can additional blogs and posts on the Internet Society website http://www.internetsociety.org Happy Birthday to the IETF. Best regards, Michuki. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Mon Jan 18 10:56:02 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:56:02 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning Listers I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected Kenya. Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. Asanteni sana. 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Closer to the City (52 Kilometres to be precise) i have been begging the network service providers (specifically Safaricom) to boost their Signal or bring a base station at a place called Kisamese for one year. They have been managing me really well and i am gratefull for their politeness and prompt action in responding on social media. Conclusion 1) We need a thorough country wide audit of infrastructure (Communications, Roads, Power etc) 2) We need to estabish whether the same infrastructure is serving the intended purposes.
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On 1/18/16, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > Good morning Listers > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected > Kenya. > > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to > explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of > e-government services. > The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get > industry thoughts and views on what they > perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in > Kenya. > What can government do in terms of > policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? > And what role does the Private sector also > play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the > citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > Asanteni sana. > RgdsGrace > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From kagwejg at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 11:38:40 2016 From: kagwejg at gmail.com (James Kagwe) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:38:40 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <569CA490.7080507@gmail.com> Grace, What if the government would create committees consisting of private and public sector professional to conceptualize, procure (tender and evaluate), implement and maintain key government projects. Hoping that the professional from the private sector will not be overcome by personal interests, government would gain a lot form the ideas in the private sector and at the same time the private sector professionals will keep a check on possible personal interests on the government employees. Personal interests sometimes causes government employees to award tenders to those willing to oil their hands than those with the requisite technology and experience. regards, James On 1/18/2016 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > Good morning Listers > > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of > Connected Kenya. > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting > Citizen to ?Self Serve?through provision of e-government services. The > theme is ?Bridging the service gap? > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas > from the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would > like to get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as > barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * > > > What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of > projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the > Private sector also play and how can both come together to further the > interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of > their homes? > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this > important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > > > Asanteni sana. > > > Rgds > > Grace > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kagwejg%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 11:59:40 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:59:40 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] An Introduction to the IANA Functions Now Available in 7 Languages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Listers, This might be of interest. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yaovi Atohoun Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:22:17 +0000 Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] An Introduction to the IANA Functions Now Available in 7 Languages To: AfrICANN Community List FRANCAIS: Pour savoir plus sur les fonctionS IANA, vous pouvez telecharger le document en allant sur le lien en FRANCAIS ? l'adresse https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/beginners-guides-2012-03-06-en. ENGLISH: You can download the booklet on IANA fucntions at https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/beginners-guides-2012-03-06-en. Thanks - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa ICANN ? www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We need a universally distributed power source (solar) at household level as mainstream. ICT solutions available today can make solar a utility. Regards, K. Machuhi On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Good morning Listers > > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of > Connected Kenya. > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to > ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is > ?Bridging the service gap? > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would like to > get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the > achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * > > > What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, > engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector > also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting > the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > > > Asanteni sana. > > > Rgds > > Grace > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kmachuhi%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Mon Jan 18 12:42:13 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:42:13 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Invitation to a KICTANet/KENIC Cocktail, January 22, 2016 at Serena Hotel Message-ID: ListersGreetings. On behalf of KICTANet and KENIC, we would like to invite you to cocktail in which the community will meet the new ICT Cabinet Secretary and the two Ps (ICT and Innovation, and Broadcasting and Telecommunications). This is scheduled for January 22, 2016 starting at 6.30 pm to 9.00pm at the Nairobi Serena Hotel. During the cocktail, a 2016 ICT wish list crowd sourced from the community will be presented. The proposed agenda is as follows: Introductory remarks Welcome remarks Setting the scene Key speakers: ICT CS and the two PSs Highlights and handing over of the crowd sourced 2016 wish list Vote of thanks We have limited places. We therefore request that for logistical purposes, you kindly reserve a place here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/first-100-days-wish-list-for-ministry-of-ict-tickets-20854798263 by Wednesday January 20, 2016. The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multistakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The Network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. The Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) is the entity charged with the management and the administration of the dot ke Country Code Top-Level Domain (.ke ccTLD) name. KENIC manages the Kenyan Domain Name Space by administering .ke in an effective, transparent and equitable manner, in the interest of the Kenyan Internet community and in conformity with global Internet policies. Do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you need further clarification. I can be reached on phone number 0722701495 or on email ggithaiga at kictanet.or.ke, or ggithaiga at hotmail.com. RgdsGrace for the organising team. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Mon Jan 18 12:44:45 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:44:45 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To add on to Barracks solid observations I'd say that for eGovernment services to work the experience of using that service MUST be seamless and as easy to use as saying ABC. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jan 2016, at 12:05 PM, K Machuhi via kictanet wrote: > > Dear Grace, > > Connectivity is key, and as Barrack Otieno pointed out, we have little to show outside the urban centers. > The scattered nature of households makes infrastructure very difficult to reach all. (Those who were responsible for post-independence 'land settlements' were big failures to our country as they sowed seed for endless land demarcation and scattered households.) > > Besides accessibility (roads), the next key is connectivity (phones, internet). Connectivity requires energy availability. It is unbelievable the number of households not connected to the grid even as they are technically in on-grid areas. > We need a universally distributed power source (solar) at household level as mainstream. ICT solutions available today can make solar a utility. > > > Regards, > > K. Machuhi > >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: >> Good morning Listers >> >> I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected Kenya. >> >> >> Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? >> >> >> >> In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. >> >> >> >> What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? >> >> >> >> We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. >> >> >> >> Asanteni sana. >> >> >> >> Rgds >> >> Grace >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kmachuhi%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nmutungu at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 12:57:52 2016 From: nmutungu at gmail.com (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 12:57:52 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?Dear listers, In addition to connectivity, design of solutions also matters. I will start by stating that the move towards digitisation of government services is welcome. We look forward to a time when we can access over 50% of services without having to queue at a government office. Some of the e-government solutions though.....One wonders whether as a people we have embraced the spirit of devolution, whose object is to bring government closer to the people. Some examples: KRA (the best performing e-government service we have): You are trying to get a company PIN and something goes wrong with the servers. You visit your nearest Huduma centre where the Huduma assistant (after several attempts) tells you to call or go to Times Tower. The call service never works. You have to find a friend or relative in Nairobi to take the trip to Times Tower. Or pay an agent for the most basic tasks. And while at KRA, last years tax returns involved downloading an excel sheet with macros :) Government Ministries , Parliament, County Assemblies publish technical papers, laws or regulations in the papers and they ask for public comments within 14 days. No explanatory notes or officer available to chat with wananchi who may want to meaningfully participate. No platform for online interactive feedback. I will not go into the KNEC Examination Results SMS. A teenager kept flashing me from upcountry. They did not have the required Ksh. 30 to send/receive the KCPE results SMS. It had never occurred to me that Ksh. 30 is prohibitive to some. We need to shift our mindset from the traditional government style to people oriented.....and to remind ourselves that we need to design solutions that actually bring services truly closer to mwananchi. Regards, 2016-01-18 12:05 GMT+03:00 K Machuhi via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > Dear Grace, > > Connectivity is key, and as Barrack Otieno pointed out, we have little to > show outside the urban centers. > The scattered nature of households makes infrastructure very difficult to > reach all. (Those who were responsible for post-independence 'land > settlements' were big failures to our country as they sowed seed for > endless land demarcation and scattered households.) > > Besides accessibility (roads), the next key is connectivity (phones, > internet). Connectivity requires energy availability. It is unbelievable > the number of households not connected to the grid even as they are > technically in on-grid areas. > We need a universally distributed power source (solar) at household level > as mainstream. ICT solutions available today can make solar a utility. > > > Regards, > > K. Machuhi > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Good morning Listers >> >> I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of >> Connected Kenya. >> >> >> Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen >> to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme >> is ?Bridging the service gap? >> >> >> In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from >> the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would like to >> get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the >> achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * >> >> >> What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, >> engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private >> sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of >> getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? >> >> >> We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to >> contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important >> conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. >> >> >> Asanteni sana. >> >> >> Rgds >> >> Grace >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kmachuhi%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From tespok at tespok.co.ke Mon Jan 18 13:57:59 2016 From: tespok at tespok.co.ke (Fiona Asonga) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 13:57:59 +0300 (EAT) Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1410646669.110578.1453114679617.JavaMail.zimbra@tespok.co.ke> Hallo Barrack MHO What you are requesting in terms of an audit should be shared soon with what I hope CA will be publishing as the Access Gap analysis. I haven't seen the report yet but am aware a study was conducted sometime last year. The outcome of that study would answer the question of where are the gaps in infrastructure deployments on a national scale. Then we can discuss and consider why and recommend some practical solutions. On self service, we need to review several factors; Power and road infrastructure, levels of literacy, available and affordable access mechanisms (end-user devices), ease of use of the applications developed this I think are not a conclusive list but can be added into the list of factors that we need to pay attention to from the users end. Here am thinking of Wanjiku being able to apply for ID replacement, report incidents and get updates from the local officials via sms. There is also the supply side and on this we need to look at the role of county government to facilitate or block ICT infrastructure development, existing infrastructure policy (thinking of the critical infrastructure bill), operator and community incentives (function of the USF). There could be several more we can list on both the supplier and end-user sides of the divide. Kind regards Fiona Asonga ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" To: tespok at tespok.co.ke Cc: "Barrack Otieno" Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 11:16:15 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya Hi GG, Many thanks for this request. It came at a perfect time. Back to Nairobi is not Kenya and Kenya is not Nairobi. Over the weekend i went on a visit to a place called Keekonyokie, approximately 70 Kilometres from Nairobi in the Rift Valley to the South of Nairobi. The following were my observations: 1) There was no road or Infrastructure for that matter. 2) There was no network (Safaricom, Airtel etc. I did not try Thuraya) I saw some satelite dishes on houses suggesting DSTV presence. 3) There was no electricity. We left the Kenya Power grid at a place called Oltepesi 30 Kilometres away. The grid ended up in a private ranch ( I cant recall the name). Closer to the City (52 Kilometres to be precise) i have been begging the network service providers (specifically Safaricom) to boost their Signal or bring a base station at a place called Kisamese for one year. They have been managing me really well and i am gratefull for their politeness and prompt action in responding on social media. Conclusion 1) We need a thorough country wide audit of infrastructure (Communications, Roads, Power etc) 2) We need to estabish whether the same infrastructure is serving the intended purposes.
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On 1/18/16, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > Good morning Listers > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected > Kenya. > > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to > explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of > e-government services. > The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get > industry thoughts and views on what they > perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in > Kenya. > What can government do in terms of > policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? > And what role does the Private sector also > play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the > citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > Asanteni sana. > RgdsGrace > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/tespok%40tespok.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 14:40:21 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 14:40:21 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: <1410646669.110578.1453114679617.JavaMail.zimbra@tespok.co.ke> References: <1410646669.110578.1453114679617.JavaMail.zimbra@tespok.co.ke> Message-ID: I would add to all this the factor of poverty. Yes, its s scape goat for so many things but let me explain this one. How many people would afford to be connected to the grid if they had a choice. And this is not just SMS and voice, which is doing OK, the issue here is access to USSD and Mobile Apps that can add value. There may be infrastructure and Internet may be decent in some parts of the country, but access is also limited to what the pocket can hold. The other important issue is the issue of digital literacy, especially in Rural Areas. And this is in 2 forms. Literacy on how to make use of Digital Technology, and also, of course, literacy on how to navigate the Internet with mobile devices or any other networked device and similar services. It may be of concern that some people may have a small decent smart phone, but may invest more in Alcohol than in Internet Bundles and Airtime. Is this a literacy issue? It may be an issue of choice.. that is yet another debate. Just raising an opinion. On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Fiona Asonga via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hallo Barrack > > MHO What you are requesting in terms of an audit should be shared soon > with what I hope CA will be publishing as the Access Gap analysis. I > haven't seen the report yet but am aware a study was conducted sometime > last year. The outcome of that study would answer the question of where are > the gaps in infrastructure deployments on a national scale. Then we can > discuss and consider why and recommend some practical solutions. > > On self service, we need to review several factors; Power and road > infrastructure, levels of literacy, available and affordable access > mechanisms (end-user devices), ease of use of the applications developed > this I think are not a conclusive list but can be added into the list of > factors that we need to pay attention to from the users end. Here am > thinking of Wanjiku being able to apply for ID replacement, report > incidents and get updates from the local officials via sms. > > There is also the supply side and on this we need to look at the role of > county government to facilitate or block ICT infrastructure development, > existing infrastructure policy (thinking of the critical infrastructure > bill), operator and community incentives (function of the USF). There could > be several more we can list on both the supplier and end-user sides of the > divide. > > Kind regards > > Fiona Asonga > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" > To: tespok at tespok.co.ke > Cc: "Barrack Otieno" > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 11:16:15 AM > Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya > > Hi GG, > > Many thanks for this request. It came at a perfect time. > > Back to Nairobi is not Kenya and Kenya is not Nairobi. > > Over the weekend i went on a visit to a place called Keekonyokie, > approximately 70 Kilometres from Nairobi in the Rift Valley to the > South of Nairobi. The following were my observations: > > 1) There was no road or Infrastructure for that matter. > > 2) There was no network (Safaricom, Airtel etc. I did not try Thuraya) > I saw some satelite dishes on houses suggesting DSTV presence. > > 3) There was no electricity. We left the Kenya Power grid at a place > called Oltepesi 30 Kilometres away. The grid ended up in a private > ranch ( I cant recall the name). > > Closer to the City (52 Kilometres to be precise) i have been begging > the network service providers (specifically Safaricom) to boost their > Signal or bring a base station at a place called Kisamese for one > year. They have been managing me really well and i am gratefull for > their politeness and prompt action in responding on social media. > > Conclusion > > 1) We need a thorough country wide audit of infrastructure > (Communications, Roads, Power etc) > 2) We need to estabish whether the same infrastructure is serving the > intended purposes. > > On 1/18/16, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > wrote: > > Good morning Listers > > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of > Connected > > Kenya. > > > > > > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to > > explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision > of > > e-government services. > > The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? > > > > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from > > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to > get > > industry thoughts and views on what they > > perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi > in > > Kenya. > > What can government do in terms of > > policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? > > And what role does the Private sector also > > play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting > the > > citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important > > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > > Asanteni sana. > > RgdsGrace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/tespok%40tespok.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Mon Jan 18 15:00:31 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:00:31 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good points raised thus far. iHub Research conducted a study in 2014, assessing how ICTs facilitate/hinder two-way interaction between citizens and governments in four key areas: access to information, tracking corruption, monitoring/accessing government service delivery, and citizen participation. The study was carried out in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. In Kenya, we looked at Nairobi and Nakuru (where infrastructure to support access to eGovernment services exists to some extent), and very interesting insights emerged. A one page summary on the study?s findings and recommendations is accessible here . The full report can be downloaded here ; the report is in an easy-to-read format, highlighting citizen?s voices and anecdotes on their interactions with ICTs). Key points: 1. SMS and radio are still king! To disseminate information, raise awareness to many, and especially in rural areas, those two mechanisms remain the most effective. And, as Grace pointed out, if SMS queries can be sent at no cost to users, then many citizens are likely to leverage them. Recommendation: Non-Internet based ICTs used in governance such as mobile phones and radios need to be integrated more in ICT and governance initiatives since they are the most widely used and most accessible. 2. User experience on government websites: "Citizens only visit governance-related sites that are a priority for their needs at a specific time, and even then, they reported that the websites are clunky and ugly. User experience is not a key factor in the creation of these websites. ? The iTax platform and KRA website were a common reference on this. Recommendation: embrace user experience considerations before deploying or upgrading ICT tools. 3. Design- reality gap: "citizen consultations do not seem to inform the creation or prioritization of eGovernment efforts.? Recommendation: The design of ICT initiatives in governance that are meant to facilitate two-way interaction between citizens and government should include the input of citizens who are intended to use them. 4. A major hurdle faced in the deployment and use of ICT tools in governance is a lack of trust in the government, as well as apathy among citizens that is brought about by perceived government failure to respond to complaints or issues raised along various governance lines. As one FGD participant put it: ?If my going to the office, physical presence, does not inspire the [government] official to act on a problem, how will communication using their websites or Facebook be different?? Recommendation: eGovernment services need to activate interaction and feedback mechanisms, including transparent response mechanisms to queries raised or complaints. (Government officials indicated that resources to facilitate this are often lacking). 5. Lack of involvement of citizens (who are the primary target/end users of most of the ICT tools for governance) in the development of ICTs for governance leads to poor prioritization of the citizens? needs. Awareness creation about the existence of these tools, why and how they should be used is not done by the implementers of the tools. We hope that the study?s findings and recommendations prove useful. > On 18 Jan 2016, at 13:03, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya Regards, Nanjira Sambuli Research Lead iHub | Research | UXLab | Consulting Mobile: +254722481566 Skype: nanjirasambuli | Twitter: @NiNanjira -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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AfrISPA comissioned a study ( http://www.internetafricanews.com/afrispa/strategy.pdf) on strategies to increase internet growth. This study was conducted by our own Muriuki Mureithi via Summit Strategies and came up with some illuminating facts. A study of informal businesses in Kenya's Kariobangi Light industries revealed that most of the businesses were aware of the internet, could use a computer and most importantly - could afford dedicated internet access at the prices of the day! The main reason why they didn't have, want or need internet access was that there was no content that they found relevant available. At the top of their list of required content was government services! I hope that this debate brings our more ideas and proposals on how Government can better serve the populace. Best regards, Brian On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Good points raised thus far. > > iHub Research conducted a study in 2014, assessing how ICTs > facilitate/hinder two-way interaction between citizens and governments in > four key areas: access to information, tracking corruption, > monitoring/accessing government service delivery, and citizen > participation. > > The study was carried out in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. In Kenya, we > looked at Nairobi and Nakuru (where infrastructure to support access to > eGovernment services exists to some extent), and very interesting insights > emerged. A one page summary on the study?s findings and recommendations is > accessible here . The full report can be > downloaded here ; > the report is in an easy-to-read format, highlighting citizen?s voices and > anecdotes on their interactions with ICTs). > > Key points: > 1. *SMS and radio are still king! *To disseminate information, raise > awareness to many, and especially in rural areas, those two mechanisms > remain the most effective. And, as Grace pointed out, if SMS queries can be > sent at no cost to users, then many citizens are likely to leverage them. > *Recommendation*: Non-Internet based ICTs used in governance such as > mobile phones and radios need to be integrated more in ICT and governance > initiatives since they are the most widely used and most accessible. > 2. *User experience on government websites:* "*Citizens only visit > governance-related sites that are a priority for their needs at a specific > time, and even then, they reported that the websites are clunky and ugly. > User experience is not a key factor in the creation of these websites.* ? > The iTax platform and KRA website were a common reference on this. > *Recommendation*: embrace user experience considerations > before deploying or upgrading ICT tools. > 3. *Design- reality gap:* "*citizen consultations do not seem to inform > the creation or prioritization of eGovernment efforts.? * > *Recommendation: *The design of ICT initiatives in governance that are > meant to facilitate two-way interaction between citizens and government > should include the input of citizens who are intended to use them. > *4. *A major hurdle faced in the deployment and use of ICT tools in > governance is *a lack of trust in the government*, as well as *apathy > among citizens *that is brought about by perceived government failure to > respond to complaints or issues raised along various governance lines. As > one FGD participant put it: *?If my going to the office, physical > presence, does not inspire the [government] official to act on a problem, > how will communication using their websites or Facebook be different?? * > *Recommendation: *eGovernment services need to activate interaction and > feedback mechanisms, including transparent response mechanisms to queries > raised or complaints. (Government officials indicated that resources > to facilitate this are often lacking). > 5. Lack of involvement of citizens (who are the primary target/end users > of most of the ICT tools for governance) in the development of ICTs for > governance leads to poor prioritization of the citizens? needs. Awareness > creation about the existence of these tools, why and how they should be > used is not done by the implementers of the tools. > > We hope that the study?s findings and recommendations prove useful. > > > > > On 18 Jan 2016, at 13:03, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya > > > > Regards, > Nanjira Sambuli > Research Lead > > > > > > iHub | Research > | UXLab | Consulting > > *Mobile:* +254722481566 > *Skype:* nanjirasambuli | *Twitter:* @NiNanjira > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jan 2016, at 2:40 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet wrote: > > I would add to all this the factor of poverty. Yes, its s scape goat for so many things but let me explain this one. > > How many people would afford to be connected to the grid if they had a choice. And this is not just SMS and voice, which is doing OK, the issue here is access to USSD and Mobile Apps that can add value. There may be infrastructure and Internet may be decent in some parts of the country, but access is also limited to what the pocket can hold. > > The other important issue is the issue of digital literacy, especially in Rural Areas. And this is in 2 forms. Literacy on how to make use of Digital Technology, and also, of course, literacy on how to navigate the Internet with mobile devices or any other networked device and similar services. > > It may be of concern that some people may have a small decent smart phone, but may invest more in Alcohol than in Internet Bundles and Airtime. Is this a literacy issue? It may be an issue of choice.. that is yet another debate. > > Just raising an opinion. > >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Fiona Asonga via kictanet wrote: >> Hallo Barrack >> >> MHO What you are requesting in terms of an audit should be shared soon with what I hope CA will be publishing as the Access Gap analysis. I haven't seen the report yet but am aware a study was conducted sometime last year. The outcome of that study would answer the question of where are the gaps in infrastructure deployments on a national scale. Then we can discuss and consider why and recommend some practical solutions. >> >> On self service, we need to review several factors; Power and road infrastructure, levels of literacy, available and affordable access mechanisms (end-user devices), ease of use of the applications developed this I think are not a conclusive list but can be added into the list of factors that we need to pay attention to from the users end. Here am thinking of Wanjiku being able to apply for ID replacement, report incidents and get updates from the local officials via sms. >> >> There is also the supply side and on this we need to look at the role of county government to facilitate or block ICT infrastructure development, existing infrastructure policy (thinking of the critical infrastructure bill), operator and community incentives (function of the USF). There could be several more we can list on both the supplier and end-user sides of the divide. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Fiona Asonga >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Barrack Otieno via kictanet" >> To: tespok at tespok.co.ke >> Cc: "Barrack Otieno" >> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 11:16:15 AM >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya >> >> Hi GG, >> >> Many thanks for this request. It came at a perfect time. >> >> Back to Nairobi is not Kenya and Kenya is not Nairobi. >> >> Over the weekend i went on a visit to a place called Keekonyokie, >> approximately 70 Kilometres from Nairobi in the Rift Valley to the >> South of Nairobi. The following were my observations: >> >> 1) There was no road or Infrastructure for that matter. >> >> 2) There was no network (Safaricom, Airtel etc. I did not try Thuraya) >> I saw some satelite dishes on houses suggesting DSTV presence. >> >> 3) There was no electricity. We left the Kenya Power grid at a place >> called Oltepesi 30 Kilometres away. The grid ended up in a private >> ranch ( I cant recall the name). >> >> Closer to the City (52 Kilometres to be precise) i have been begging >> the network service providers (specifically Safaricom) to boost their >> Signal or bring a base station at a place called Kisamese for one >> year. They have been managing me really well and i am gratefull for >> their politeness and prompt action in responding on social media. >> >> Conclusion >> >> 1) We need a thorough country wide audit of infrastructure >> (Communications, Roads, Power etc) >> 2) We need to estabish whether the same infrastructure is serving the >> intended purposes. >> >> On 1/18/16, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: >> > Good morning Listers >> > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected >> > Kenya. >> > >> > >> > >> > Connected Kenya this year wants to >> > explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of >> > e-government services. >> > The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? >> > >> > >> > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from >> > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get >> > industry thoughts and views on what they >> > perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in >> > Kenya. >> > What can government do in terms of >> > policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? >> > And what role does the Private sector also >> > play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the >> > citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? >> > >> > >> > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to >> > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important >> > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. >> > Asanteni sana. >> > RgdsGrace >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/tespok%40tespok.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Ahmed Maawy > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From memakunat at yahoo.com Mon Jan 18 20:21:38 2016 From: memakunat at yahoo.com (memakunat at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:21:38 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya Message-ID: @Machuhi, I like your argument, its more conservative and embraces the greatest non diminitive natural resource Africa has ever had. (solar energy) -original message- Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya From: Ali Hussein via kictanet Date: 01/18/2016 12:44 PM To add on to Barracks solid observations I'd say that for eGovernment services to work the experience of using that service MUST be seamless and as easy to use as saying ABC. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 18 Jan 2016, at 12:05 PM, K Machuhi via kictanet wrote: > > Dear Grace, > > Connectivity is key, and as Barrack Otieno pointed out, we have little to show outside the urban centers. > The scattered nature of households makes infrastructure very difficult to reach all. (Those who were responsible for post-independence 'land settlements' were big failures to our country as they sowed seed for endless land demarcation and scattered households.) > > Besides accessibility (roads), the next key is connectivity (phones, internet). Connectivity requires energy availability. It is unbelievable the number of households not connected to the grid even as they are technically in on-grid areas. > We need a universally distributed power source (solar) at household level as mainstream. ICT solutions available today can make solar a utility. > > > Regards, > > K. Machuhi > >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: >> Good morning Listers >> >> I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected Kenya. >> >> >> Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? >> >> >> >> In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. >> >> >> >> What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? >> >> >> >> We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. >> >> >> >> Asanteni sana. >> >> >> >> Rgds >> >> Grace >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kmachuhi%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/memakunat%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. From dmuthoni at gmail.com Mon Jan 18 23:00:41 2016 From: dmuthoni at gmail.com (Dorcas Muthoni) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:00:41 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi listers, This is very welcome from the ICT authority. As software developers who have worked on e-government projects, I would request the following to be considered: 1. Enterprise Service Bus for the government. All agencies and ministries providing citizens, businesses and MDA facing services should hook to the bus which should support as many as possible application integration architectures. Publish an API to enable developers integrate MDA core applications to the bus and other MDA systems. Right now, it's very messy and a big pain for developers who receive user requirements. Many MDAs usually thinkna developer can deliver all necessary integrations without this infrastructure which is practically impossible in current times. We have been denied payment because a PS thought we could perform this magic on our own. 2. Require that all MDAs implement core applications in-line with their mandate. All anticorruption money should be directed to developing and implementing e-government systems?. It would do wonders. ICT AUTHORITY should help with developing system requirements and specifications or train the ICT officers of respective MDAs. Best, Muthoni Good morning Listers I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected Kenya. Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would like to get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. Asanteni sana. Rgds Grace _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Tue Jan 19 10:54:47 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:54:47 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Telcos to pay more into USF kitty Message-ID: http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-to-pay-more-for-ICT-access-fund/-/996/2942974/-/format/xhtml/-/mss4nb/-/index.html Telecom firms will need to dig deeper into their pockets to fund a Sh100 billion programme aimed at providing ICT services in marginalised areas. Canadian firm Intelecon Research and Consultancy Ltd, which is carrying out a new study on ICT access gaps on behalf of the Communications Authority (CA), said operators have so far contributed only Sh2.9 billion against the target. The firm will deliver to the CA the results of the study by February 2016, when the programme is expected to be formally launched. The study, which is benchmarked against best practices in Uganda, Tanzania and Pakistan, will help the CA to implement the Universal Service Fund (USF) that aims to close the ICT access gap in the country. Intelecon is expected to develop an interactive online portal showing where the gaps exist as well as determine the exact cost of rolling out the services. ?USF levies will total Sh6.9 billion to Sh10 billion in the next 10 years,? stated the Intel -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh From chemukoechk at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 11:10:30 2016 From: chemukoechk at gmail.com (Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:10:30 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Listers, There are several government services offered through various platforms. As an improvement in regards to service delivery it would help if the various agencies had information sharing portals in order to improve service delivery. My experience with government agencies is that information is in silos and trying to get a service that involves the interaction between agencies can be a nightmare. Take for example the misfortune of losing your ID while required to get a Certificate of Good Conduct. 1. A copy of the National ID will not suffice at the CID headquarters where applications are made, this you will only find out once you get to Kiambu Road . 2. One has to get an official printout of the ID from the relevant authority which means going for fresh finger printing at Kibera(or the nearest administrative office. 3.Once that is done one has to go to an office in NSSF buiding where the documents are processed and a forwarding letter is issued to the CID then one goes back to CID headquarters with the letter to make an application for the Certificate of Good Conduct all this will take not less than six hours in Nairobi which is an information hub, try to imagine what people in remote parts of the country have to go through. We all carry several government issued cards in our wallets NSSF, NHIF, ID, Drivers Licence etc.....would it be too much to ask if some of the information was centrally stored especially for the delivery of basic services? A government platform that encourages information sharing between agencies would positive step in improving how the public connects to government services with the aid of ICT as services will be made increasingly centralized and simplified. Regards, Rosemary. Twitter:@Chemu_koech LinkedIn:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu Skype:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu 0718181644/0771632344 On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hi listers, > > This is very welcome from the ICT authority. As software developers who > have worked on e-government projects, I would request the following to be > considered: > > 1. Enterprise Service Bus for the government. All agencies and ministries > providing citizens, businesses and MDA facing services should hook to the > bus which should support as many as possible application integration > architectures. Publish an API to enable developers integrate MDA core > applications to the bus and other MDA systems. Right now, it's very messy > and a big pain for developers who receive user requirements. Many MDAs > usually thinkna developer can deliver all necessary integrations without > this infrastructure which is practically impossible in current times. We > have been denied payment because a PS thought we could perform this magic > on our own. > > 2. Require that all MDAs implement core applications in-line with their > mandate. All anticorruption money should be directed to developing and > implementing e-government systems?. It would do wonders. ICT AUTHORITY > should help with developing system requirements and specifications or train > the ICT officers of respective MDAs. > > Best, Muthoni > Good morning Listers > > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of > Connected Kenya. > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to > ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is > ?Bridging the service gap? > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would like to > get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the > achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * > > > What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, > engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector > also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting > the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > > > Asanteni sana. > > > Rgds > > Grace > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chemukoechk%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 19 11:47:50 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:47:50 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Telcos to pay more into USF kitty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A3552A8-8498-43F7-941C-14021091C9B0@hussein.me.ke> Kivuva Thanks for sharing. This is a step in the right direction. My prayer is that these funds will be utilised to ensure that we increase uptake in ICTs. I see a number of issues which will need to be addressed quickly. 1. Revamp the USF Board to ensure all stakeholders are properly represented - From the Telcos and County Governments (So potentially regional USF Boards to ensure Mashinani (Grassroots) are properly addressed by the people who know the area best. 2. Deeper partnership with Telcos and Government. A good case is Halotel?s Partnership with the Tanzania Government to rapidly expand internet connectivity in the country. http://www.busiweek.com/index1.php?Ctp=2&pI=4606&pLv=3&srI=69&spI=221 3. Shared Telco Infrastructure. The new CS has said that he will champion this. 4. Inexpensive reliable smart phones. Let?s ensure that USF becomes the driver to the Internet economy that it should have been years ago. Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: Abu-Jomo LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com > On Jan 19, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: > > http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Telcos-to-pay-more-for-ICT-access-fund/-/996/2942974/-/format/xhtml/-/mss4nb/-/index.html > > Telecom firms will need to dig deeper into their pockets to fund a > Sh100 billion programme aimed at providing ICT services in > marginalised areas. > > Canadian firm Intelecon Research and Consultancy Ltd, which is > carrying out a new study on ICT access gaps on behalf of the > Communications Authority (CA), said operators have so far contributed > only Sh2.9 billion against the target. > > The firm will deliver to the CA the results of the study by February > 2016, when the programme is expected to be formally launched. > > The study, which is benchmarked against best practices in Uganda, > Tanzania and Pakistan, will help the CA to implement the Universal > Service Fund (USF) that aims to close the ICT access gap in the > country. > > Intelecon is expected to develop an interactive online portal showing > where the gaps exist as well as determine the exact cost of rolling > out the services. > > ?USF levies will total Sh6.9 billion to Sh10 billion in the next 10 > years,? stated the Intel > > -- > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 19 11:50:24 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:50:24 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D0FCC87-5F86-4119-8B06-0FE81969BDC6@hussein.me.ke> Rosemary Absolutely. Let?s see a rapid expansion of the eCitizen portal program. This is a definite step in the right direction. Thanks & Regards Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: Abu-Jomo LinkedIn: http//ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com > On Jan 19, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > There are several government services offered through various platforms. As an improvement in regards to service delivery it would help if the various agencies had information sharing portals in order to improve service delivery. My experience with government agencies is that information is in silos and trying to get a service that involves the interaction between agencies can be a nightmare. Take for example the misfortune of losing your ID while required to get a Certificate of Good Conduct. > > 1. A copy of the National ID will not suffice at the CID headquarters where applications are made, this you will only find out once you get to Kiambu Road . > 2. One has to get an official printout of the ID from the relevant authority which means going for fresh finger printing at Kibera(or the nearest administrative office. > 3.Once that is done one has to go to an office in NSSF buiding where the documents are processed and a forwarding letter is issued to the CID then one goes back to CID headquarters with the letter to make an application for the Certificate of Good Conduct all this will take not less than six hours in Nairobi which is an information hub, try to imagine what people in remote parts of the country have to go through. > > We all carry several government issued cards in our wallets NSSF, NHIF, ID, Drivers Licence etc.....would it be too much to ask if some of the information was centrally stored especially for the delivery of basic services? > > A government platform that encourages information sharing between agencies would positive step in improving how the public connects to government services with the aid of ICT as services will be made increasingly centralized and simplified. > > Regards, > > Rosemary. > > Twitter:@Chemu_koech > LinkedIn:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu > Skype:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu > 0718181644/0771632344 > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > wrote: > Hi listers, > > This is very welcome from the ICT authority. As software developers who have worked on e-government projects, I would request the following to be considered: > > 1. Enterprise Service Bus for the government. All agencies and ministries providing citizens, businesses and MDA facing services should hook to the bus which should support as many as possible application integration architectures. Publish an API to enable developers integrate MDA core applications to the bus and other MDA systems. Right now, it's very messy and a big pain for developers who receive user requirements. Many MDAs usually thinkna developer can deliver all necessary integrations without this infrastructure which is practically impossible in current times. We have been denied payment because a PS thought we could perform this magic on our own. > > 2. Require that all MDAs implement core applications in-line with their mandate. All anticorruption money should be directed to developing and implementing e-government systems?. It would do wonders. ICT AUTHORITY should help with developing system requirements and specifications or train the ICT officers of respective MDAs. > > Best, Muthoni > > Good morning Listers > > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of Connected Kenya. > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? > > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority would like to get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. > > > > What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > > > > Asanteni sana. > > > > Rgds > > Grace > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chemukoechk%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emailsignet at mailcan.com Tue Jan 19 12:02:26 2016 From: emailsignet at mailcan.com (waudo siganga) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:02:26 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1453194146.1402085.496114698.2F0CB032@webmail.messagingengine.com> I concour with Rosemary that some of the Government services in the digital age could be improved. Two examples: 1. In December someone wanted to sell me a plot of land and I visited the lands office in Kakamega to apply for a search to verify ownership. To my dismay I found a list of about 7 requirements pinned to the walls including 4 copies of the title deed, ID Copies, PIN, etc. plus a waiting period of 2 weeks to get the results. In addition staff?at the service counter at?that office were rare and one has to spend considerable time just waiting. Why should verifying the owner of a piece of land be such a cumbersome process as if the information is "siri kali". In the old days it was very easy, just pay 200/= and wait briefly. The people concerned should learn from the computerisation of exam results by KNEC whereby you?can just send a USSD or SMS message using information such as students index number (LR number for land) and receive the required information in seconds. 2. The same December I discovered my driving license had long lapsed. The Huduma centre where renewals are done was closed for the holiday. Someone told me that renewal can be done online but when I went to that site the process could not complete. Some days later when I went to do the process at the Huduma centre I was told an original ID is a must. When I offered my passport which I use as an ID they declined. In the good old days one just went with the old license, paid some amount and received a renewal slip quickly. After all?renewing a license is?just another way for Government to collect more revenue. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet wrote: > Hi Listers, > > There are several government services offered through various > platforms. As an improvement in regards to service delivery it would > help if the various agencies had information sharing portals in order > to improve service delivery. My experience with government agencies is > that information is in silos and trying to get a service that involves > the interaction between agencies can be a nightmare. Take for example > the misfortune of losing your ID while required to get a Certificate > of Good Conduct. > > 1. A copy of the National ID will not suffice at the CID headquarters > where applications are made, this you will only find out once you > get to Kiambu Road . > 2. One has to get an official printout of the ID from the relevant > authority which means going for fresh finger printing at Kibera(or > the nearest administrative office. > 3.Once that is done one has to go to an office in NSSF buiding where > the documents are processed and a forwarding letter is issued to the > CID then one goes back to CID headquarters with the letter to make > an application for the Certificate of Good Conduct all this will > take not less than six hours in Nairobi which is an information hub, > try to imagine what people in remote parts of the country have to go > through. > > We all carry several government issued cards in our wallets NSSF, > NHIF, ID, Drivers Licence etc.....would it be too much to ask if some > of the information was centrally stored especially for the delivery of > basic services? > > A government ?platform that encourages ?information sharing between > agencies would positive step in improving how the public connects to > government services with the aid of ICT as services will be made > increasingly centralized and simplified. > > Regards, > > Rosemary. > > Twitter:@Chemu_koech LinkedIn:Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu Skype:Rosemary > Koech-Kimwatu 0718181644/0771632344 > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > wrote: >> Hi listers, >> This is very welcome from the ICT authority. As software developers >> who have worked on e-government projects,? I would request the >> following to be considered: >> 1. Enterprise Service Bus for the government.? All agencies and >> ministries providing citizens,? businesses and MDA facing services >> should hook to the bus which should support as many as possible >> application integration architectures. Publish an API to enable >> developers integrate MDA core applications to the bus and other >> MDA systems.? Right now,? it's very messy and a big pain for >> developers who receive user requirements.? Many MDAs usually >> thinkna developer can deliver all necessary integrations without >> this infrastructure which is practically impossible in current >> times. We have been denied payment because a PS thought we could >> perform this magic on our own. >> 2. Require that all MDAs implement core applications in-line with >> their mandate.? All anticorruption money should be directed to >> developing and implementing e-government systems?. It would do >> wonders.? ICT AUTHORITY should help with developing system >> requirements and specifications or train the ICT officers of >> respective MDAs. >> Best, Muthoni >> Good morning Listers >> >> I have received a request from ?the ICT Authority on the topic of >> Connected Kenya. >> >> Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting >> Citizen to ?Self Serve?? through provision of e-government services. >> The theme is ?Bridging the service gap? >> >> In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable >> ideas from the different sectors of the community, the ICT >> Authority would like to get industry thoughts and views on what >> they perceive as barriers to the achievement of ?self-services? to >> mwananchi in Kenya. >> >> What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of >> projects, engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the >> Private sector also play and how can both come together to further >> the interest of getting the citizen to access services at the comfort >> of their homes? >> >> We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to >> contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this >> important conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. >> >> Asanteni sana. >> >> Rgds >> Grace >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder >> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT >> policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for >> reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT >> enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/chemukoechk%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > _________________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/emailsignet%40mailcan.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT > policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for > reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled > growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, > respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or > qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nnfeischools at yahoo.com Tue Jan 19 13:58:57 2016 From: nnfeischools at yahoo.com (Network of non- formal Educational institutions) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] Invitation to a KICTANet/KENIC Cocktail, January 22, 2016 at Serena Hotel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499950412.5826839.1453201137906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Dear Grace I have noted you dont have? a speaker from the media. I would wish to speak as a representative of the new mediaI am now the Chairperson for the Kenya Women Media Owners Association Jane On Monday, January 18, 2016 12:58 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: ListersGreetings. ?Onbehalf of KICTANet and KENIC, wewould like to invite you to cocktail in which the community will meet the new ICTCabinet Secretary and the two Ps (ICT and Innovation, and Broadcasting andTelecommunications). ?This is scheduled for January 22, 2016 starting at 6.30 pm to9.00pm at the Nairobi Serena Hotel. ?During the cocktail, a 2016 ICT wish listcrowd sourced from the community will be presented. ?The proposedagenda is as follows: ? Introductory remarks Welcomeremarks Settingthe scene Keyspeakers: ICT CS and the two PSs Highlightsand handing over of the crowd sourced 2016 wish list Vote ofthanks ?We ?have limited places. We therefore request that for logisticalpurposes, you kindly ?reserve a place here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/first-100-days-wish-list-for-ministry-of-ict-tickets-20854798263?by Wednesday January 20, 2016.?The Kenya ICTAction Network (KICTANet) is a multistakeholder platform for people andinstitutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The Networkaims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of thenational aim of ICT enabled growth and development. ?TheKenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) is the entity charged with themanagement and the administration of the dot ke Country Code Top-Level Domain(.ke ccTLD) name. KENIC manages the Kenyan Domain Name Space by administering.ke in an effective, transparent and equitable manner, in the interest of theKenyan Internet community?and in conformity withglobal Internet policies. ?Do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you need further clarification.I can be reached on phone number 0722701495 or on email ggithaiga at kictanet.or.ke, orggithaiga at hotmail.com. ?RgdsGrace for the organising team. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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I would wish to speak as a representative of the new mediaI am now the Chairperson for the Kenya Women Media Owners Association Jane On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:52 PM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions wrote: Dear AllI have noted you dont have? a speaker from the media. I would wish to speak as a representative of the new mediaI am now the Chairperson for the Kenya Women Media Owners Association Jane On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 1:50 PM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions wrote: On Monday, January 18, 2016 11:57 AM, Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANET) wrote: | | ? | | | | | | | | Hello?Jane, You are invited to the following event: First 100 days wish list for Ministry of ICT Event to be held at the following time, date, and location: | | Friday, January 22, 2016 from 6:30 PM to 8:30 PM (EAT) Nairobi Serena Hotel P. O. 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URL: From nmutungu at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 14:10:24 2016 From: nmutungu at gmail.com (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:10:24 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Invitation to a KICTANet/KENIC Cocktail, January 22, 2016 at Serena Hotel In-Reply-To: <499950412.5826839.1453201137906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <499950412.5826839.1453201137906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess it would be okay as she is a woman, though if you already have someone like from Nation would be better because they have beef with the government over programming code..... 2016-01-19 13:58 GMT+03:00 Network of non- formal Educational institutions via kictanet : > Dear Grace > I have noted you dont have a speaker from the media. I would wish to > speak as a representative of the new media > I am now the Chairperson for the Kenya Women Media Owners Association > > Jane > > > > On Monday, January 18, 2016 12:58 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > Listers > > Greetings. > > > > On > behalf of KICTANet and KENIC, we > would like to invite you to cocktail in which the community will meet the new ICT > Cabinet Secretary and the two Ps (ICT and Innovation, and Broadcasting and > Telecommunications). This is scheduled for *January 22, 2016 starting at 6.30 pm to > 9.00pm* at the *Nairobi Serena Hotel*. > > > > During the cocktail, a 2016 ICT wish list > crowd sourced from the community will be presented. > > > > The proposed > agenda is as follows: > > > > Introductory remarks > Welcome > remarks > Setting > the scene > Key > speakers: ICT CS and the two PSs > Highlights > and handing over of the crowd sourced 2016 wish list > Vote of > thanks > > > > We have limited places. We therefore request that for logistical > purposes, you kindly reserve a place here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/first-100-days-wish-list-for-ministry-of-ict-tickets-20854798263 by Wednesday January 20, 2016. > > > > The Kenya ICT > Action Network (KICTANet) is a multistakeholder platform for people and > institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The Network > aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the > national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > > > The > Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) is the entity charged with the > management and the administration of the dot ke Country Code Top-Level Domain > (.ke ccTLD) name. KENIC manages the Kenyan Domain Name Space by administering > .ke in an effective, transparent and equitable manner, in the interest of the > Kenyan Internet community and in conformity with > global Internet policies. > > > > Do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you need further clarification. > I can be reached on phone number 0722701495 or on email ggithaiga at kictanet.or.ke, orggithaiga at hotmail.com. > > > Rgds > Grace for the organising team. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Tue Jan 19 17:58:55 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 14:58:55 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Invitation to a KICTANet/KENIC Cocktail, January 22, 2016 at Serena Hotel In-Reply-To: <499950412.5826839.1453201137906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: , <499950412.5826839.1453201137906.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi JaneThanks for offering to speak. We however confirmed with the Chair of MOA. There will definitely be another opportunity in the not so far future. RgdsGrace Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:58:57 +0000 From: nnfeischools at yahoo.com To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: ggithaiga at hotmail.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] Invitation to a KICTANet/KENIC Cocktail, January 22, 2016 at Serena Hotel Dear Grace I have noted you dont have a speaker from the media. I would wish to speak as a representative of the new mediaI am now the Chairperson for the Kenya Women Media Owners AssociationJane On Monday, January 18, 2016 12:58 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: ListersGreetings. On behalf of KICTANet and KENIC, we would like to invite you to cocktail in which the community will meet the new ICT Cabinet Secretary and the two Ps (ICT and Innovation, and Broadcasting and Telecommunications). This is scheduled for January 22, 2016 starting at 6.30 pm to 9.00pm at the Nairobi Serena Hotel. During the cocktail, a 2016 ICT wish list crowd sourced from the community will be presented. The proposed agenda is as follows: Introductory remarks Welcome remarks Setting the scene Key speakers: ICT CS and the two PSs Highlights and handing over of the crowd sourced 2016 wish list Vote of thanks We have limited places. We therefore request that for logistical purposes, you kindly reserve a place here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/first-100-days-wish-list-for-ministry-of-ict-tickets-20854798263 by Wednesday January 20, 2016. The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multistakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The Network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. The Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) is the entity charged with the management and the administration of the dot ke Country Code Top-Level Domain (.ke ccTLD) name. KENIC manages the Kenyan Domain Name Space by administering .ke in an effective, transparent and equitable manner, in the interest of the Kenyan Internet community and in conformity with global Internet policies. Do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you need further clarification. I can be reached on phone number 0722701495 or on email ggithaiga at kictanet.or.ke, or ggithaiga at hotmail.com. RgdsGrace for the organising team. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nnfeischools%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Almost always, the end result of these is the proverbial camel as anyone who has ever tried to use most of the government applications will tell you. However, there is a set of applications that tend to do very well; the mobile ones.. Most of the applications done on the mobile platform such as say checking exam results for KCPE students are a brilliant example of what could be achieved. The *ultimate* solution, however, is to open up GoKs backend systems in a way that allows various vendors/individuals to innovate around it. Kind of have an AppStore for GoK Apps. As an example, suppose KRA was to make the iTax APIs for Taxpayer Registration / PIN Process available. I can bet you within a week we'd have someone designing a much better interface than what's currently available through the iTax System. The same could be said of the current IFMIS eProcurement System etc Apple, Google & M$, even with their huge resources couldn't pull it off by making all the applications needed by everyone. They just built a platform that the rest of the world could build and compete on. So, in conclusion, successful self-service applications are unlikely to be implemented by GoK. Let GoK provide the market with the APIs to build these applications. Let the market compete on innovating around these. Rgds On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Good morning Listers > > I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of > Connected Kenya. > > > Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen to > ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme is > ?Bridging the service gap? > > > In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from > the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would like to > get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the > achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * > > > What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, > engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private sector > also play and how can both come together to further the interest of getting > the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? > > > We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to > contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important > conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. > > > Asanteni sana. > > > Rgds > > Grace > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *Regards,* *Wait**haka Ngigi* Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 www.at.co.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Wed Jan 20 07:27:40 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 07:27:40 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] ICT Authority request on Connected Kenya In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Totally agree on this one.. Have applications as services and allow 3rd parties to develop apps on top of these services will allow innovation in many forms. All the major Internet products n the market today employ the API - which is a way to expose these services - and impressive 3rd party apps have come up to work in conjunction with or to even supplement these services. These products include YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, popular messaging apps, etc. Tons of established tech companies and products are moving to the API model. Its worth noting that notable Government Open Data around the world projects also expose data via APIs. On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Grace, > > My thoughts.... > > The biggest impediment to self-service to government applications is the > lack of innovation around the same applications. > > The lack of innovation is due to the closed system approach the government > has taken. Every application in use today is almost as a result of a tender > award, then the subsequent design-implementation process through the > various committees. Almost always, the end result of these is the > proverbial camel as anyone who has ever tried to use most of the government > applications will tell you. > > However, there is a set of applications that tend to do very well; the > mobile ones.. Most of the applications done on the mobile platform such as > say checking exam results for KCPE students are a brilliant example of what > could be achieved. > > The *ultimate* solution, however, is to open up GoKs backend systems in a > way that allows various vendors/individuals to innovate around it. Kind of > have an AppStore for GoK Apps. > > As an example, suppose KRA was to make the iTax APIs for Taxpayer > Registration / PIN Process available. I can bet you within a week we'd have > someone designing a much better interface than what's currently available > through the iTax System. The same could be said of the current IFMIS > eProcurement System etc > > Apple, Google & M$, even with their huge resources couldn't pull it off by > making all the applications needed by everyone. They just built a platform > that the rest of the world could build and compete on. > > So, in conclusion, successful self-service applications are unlikely to be > implemented by GoK. Let GoK provide the market with the APIs to build these > applications. Let the market compete on innovating around these. > > Rgds > > > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Good morning Listers >> >> I have received a request from the ICT Authority on the topic of >> Connected Kenya. >> >> >> Connected Kenya this year wants to explore the theme of getting Citizen >> to ?Self Serve? through provision of e-government services. The theme >> is ?Bridging the service gap? >> >> >> In the spirit of consultation, and in recognizing the valuable ideas from >> the different sectors of the community, the ICT Authority *would like to >> get industry thoughts and views on what they perceive as barriers to the >> achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. * >> >> >> What can government do in terms of policies, implementation of projects, >> engagement to further this agenda? And what role does the Private >> sector also play and how can both come together to further the interest of >> getting the citizen to access services at the comfort of their homes? >> >> >> We request that for the next five days, you kindly feel feel free to >> contribute and help the Authority shape up the agenda for this important >> conference. Phyllis from ICTA will collate all your ideas. >> >> >> Asanteni sana. >> >> >> Rgds >> >> Grace >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > *Regards,* > > *Wait**haka Ngigi* > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod > Building > T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000 > www.at.co.ke > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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This is scheduled for *January 22, 2016 starting at 6.30 pm to > 9.00pm* at the *Nairobi Serena Hotel*. > > > > During the cocktail, a 2016 ICT wish list > crowd sourced from the community will be presented. > > > > The proposed > agenda is as follows: > > > > Introductory remarks > Welcome > remarks > Setting > the scene > Key > speakers: ICT CS and the two PSs > Highlights > and handing over of the crowd sourced 2016 wish list > Vote of > thanks > > > > We have limited places. We therefore request that for logistical > purposes, you kindly reserve a place here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/first-100-days-wish-list-for-ministry-of-ict-tickets-20854798263 by Wednesday January 20, 2016. > > > > The Kenya ICT > Action Network (KICTANet) is a multistakeholder platform for people and > institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The Network > aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the > national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > > > The > Kenya Network Information Centre (KENIC) is the entity charged with the > management and the administration of the dot ke Country Code Top-Level Domain > (.ke ccTLD) name. KENIC manages the Kenyan Domain Name Space by administering > .ke in an effective, transparent and equitable manner, in the interest of the > Kenyan Internet community and in conformity with > global Internet policies. > > > > Do not hesitate to get in touch with me if you need further clarification. > I can be reached on phone number 0722701495 or on email ggithaiga at kictanet.or.ke, orggithaiga at hotmail.com. > > > > Rgds > > Grace for the organising team. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Fri Jan 22 00:05:23 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:05:23 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program Message-ID: Listers For those of you who confirmed, we look forward to seeing you this evening. Below is the program. RgdsGG KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program Serena Hotel January 22, 2016 6.30 pm to 9.00 pm. 6:30-7:00pm: Arrival Registration 7:00-7:05 Welcome Remarks - Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC 7:05-7:15: Setting the scene - Prof. Bitange Ndemo 7.15-7.30 Overview of Stakeholder WishList - J. Walubengo, Multimedia University 7:30:-7:35: Handover 'Ceremony' of the Wish List to Cabinet Secretary 3 Minutes Speeches/Remarks from Key Stakeholders' Civil Society Grace Githaiga, KICTANet Media Dr. Hanningtone Gaya - Chair, Media Owners Association Industry Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC Domain Names Kariba Moko, Domain Registrars Association of Kenya (DRAKE) Key Speeches by Guests Principal Secretary, Broadcast &Telecomms Sammy Itemere Principal Secretary, ICT & Innovations Victor Kyalo Keynote Address Cabinet Secretary, Joe Mucheru Vote of Thanks Alice Munyua, Africa Union Commission -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 22 09:46:08 2016 From: charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk (charles nduati) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 06:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <772812368.14284712.1453445168817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Grace, I confirm I will be there too many thanks Charles ?CHARLES N. NDUATI MOBILE:254-722728815 EMIAL:charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk,cnduati at gmail.com, From: Grace Githaiga via kictanet To: charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk Cc: Grace Githaiga Sent: Friday, 22 January 2016, 0:05 Subject: [kictanet] KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program Listers For those of you who confirmed, we look forward to seeing you this evening. Below is the program.? RgdsGG KICTANet/KenicCocktail?Program Serena Hotel January 22, 2016 6.30 pm to 9.00 pm. ? | ? 6:30-7:00pm:??????????????? | ? Arrival Registration | | ? 7:00-7:05 | ? Welcome Remarks -?Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC | | ? 7:05-7:15:???????????????????? | ? Setting the scene -?Prof. Bitange Ndemo? | | ? 7.15-7.30 ? | ? Overview of Stakeholder WishList -?J. Walubengo, Multimedia University | | ? 7:30:-7:35:??????????????????? ? | ? Handover 'Ceremony' of the Wish List to Cabinet Secretary | | ? 3 Minutes Speeches/Remarks from Key Stakeholders' | | ? Civil Society | ? Grace?Githaiga, KICTANet | | ? Media | ? Dr. Hanningtone Gaya?- Chair, Media Owners Association | | ? Industry | ? Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC | | ? Domain Names | ? Kariba Moko,?Domain Registrars Association of Kenya (DRAKE) | | ? Key Speeches by Guests | | ? Principal Secretary, Broadcast &Telecomms | ? Sammy Itemere | | ? Principal Secretary, ICT & Innovations | ? Victor Kyalo | | ? Keynote Address | ? Cabinet Secretary,?Joe Mucheru? | | ? ? | | ? Vote of Thanks | ? Alice Munyua,?Africa Union Commission | ? _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/charlesnduati2002%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke Visit: www.icta.go.ke Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE --------------------- -- ICT Authority Telposta Towers 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi Kenya Tel: +254 20 2211960 www.icta.go.ke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 25466 bytes Desc: not available URL: From nmutungu at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 13:26:36 2016 From: nmutungu at gmail.com (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:26:36 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Connected Kenya Theme Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for the feedback Phyllis and ICTA. It is always meaningful to know the value of our public participation. Regards, 2016-01-22 13:20 GMT+03:00 Phyllis Nyambura via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>: > Dear Listers, > > > On behalf of the ICT Authority, I would wish to thank all of you who gave > their thoughts and views on the Connected Kenya agenda on barriers that > exists in the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. > > > Your comments were very valuable and insightful and will go along way in > informing the event program. The event takes place on 21st to 24th March > and we will be enlisting for your participation soon. > > > We grouped the comments as below: > > > > > [image: Inline image 1] > >> >>> >>> > > > > Enjoy your weekend. > > > > Regards, > Phyllis Nyambura > Communications > The ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave > P.O. Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya > t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke > Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke > > Visit: www.icta.go.ke > Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE > > Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE > --------------------- > > > ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave > > PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi Kenya > > Tel: +254 20 2211960 > > www.icta.go.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu PGP ID : 0x33A3450F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The event takes place on 21st to 24th March >> and we will be enlisting for your participation soon. >> >> >> We grouped the comments as below: >> >> >> >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> Enjoy your weekend. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Phyllis Nyambura >> Communications >> The ICT Authority >> >> Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave >> P.O. Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya >> t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke >> Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke >> >> Visit: www.icta.go.ke >> Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE >> >> Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE >> --------------------- >> >> >> ICT Authority >> >> Telposta Towers 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave >> >> PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi Kenya >> >> Tel: +254 20 2211960 >> >> www.icta.go.ke >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/nmutungu%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u > Nairobi Kenya > Skype: gracebomu > Twitter: @Bomu > > > > PGP ID : 0x33A3450F > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ephraim%40accessnow.org > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 25466 bytes Desc: not available URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 15:25:25 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:25:25 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Connected Kenya Theme Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks Phylis, We appreciate your noble gesture to consult the community. We look forwad to similar engagements in future and are happy to contribute to the developement of Our ICT Sector whenever possible. Best Regards On 1/22/16, Phyllis Nyambura via kictanet wrote: > Dear Listers, > > > On behalf of the ICT Authority, I would wish to thank all of you who gave > their thoughts and views on the Connected Kenya agenda on barriers that > exists in the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi in Kenya. > > > Your comments were very valuable and insightful and will go along way in > informing the event program. The event takes place on 21st to 24th March > and we will be enlisting for your participation soon. > > > We grouped the comments as below: > > > > > [image: Inline image 1] > >> >>> >>> > > > > Enjoy your weekend. > > > > Regards, > Phyllis Nyambura > Communications > The ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave > P.O. Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya > t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke > Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke > > Visit: www.icta.go.ke > Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE > > Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE > --------------------- > > -- > > > ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave > > PO Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi Kenya > > Tel: +254 20 2211960 > > www.icta.go.ke > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From ericosiakwan at me.com Fri Jan 22 15:29:23 2016 From: ericosiakwan at me.com (Eric M K Osiakwan) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 12:29:23 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Africa's Boom IS NOT Over Message-ID: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/africas-boom-over-eric-osiakwan Eric here Eric M.K Osiakwan +233244386792 "Accraboy" 4 Skype @eosiakwan 4 Twitter about.me/ericosiakwan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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NDUATI MOBILE:254-722728815 > EMIAL:charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk,cnduati at gmail.com, > > > From: Grace Githaiga via kictanet > To: charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk > Cc: Grace Githaiga > Sent: Friday, 22 January 2016, 0:05 > Subject: [kictanet] KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program > > Listers > For those of you who confirmed, we look forward to seeing you this evening. > Below is the program. > RgdsGG > > KICTANet/KenicCocktail?Program Serena Hotel January 22, 2016 6.30 pm to 9.00 > pm. > | ? 6:30-7:00pm:??????????????? | ? Arrival Registration | > | ? 7:00-7:05 | ? Welcome Remarks -?Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC | > | ? 7:05-7:15:???????????????????? | ? Setting the scene -?Prof. Bitange > Ndemo? | > | ? 7.15-7.30 ? | ? Overview of Stakeholder WishList -?J. Walubengo, > Multimedia University | > | ? 7:30:-7:35:??????????????????? ? | ? Handover 'Ceremony' of the Wish > List to Cabinet Secretary | > | ? 3 Minutes Speeches/Remarks from Key Stakeholders' | > | ? Civil Society | ? Grace?Githaiga, KICTANet | > | ? Media | ? Dr. Hanningtone Gaya?- Chair, Media Owners Association | > | ? Industry | ? Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC | > | ? Domain Names | ? Kariba Moko,?Domain Registrars Association of Kenya > (DRAKE) | > | ? Key Speeches by Guests | > | ? Principal Secretary, Broadcast &Telecomms | ? Sammy Itemere | > | ? Principal Secretary, ICT & Innovations | ? Victor Kyalo | > | ? Keynote Address | ? Cabinet Secretary,?Joe Mucheru? | > | ? ? | > | ? Vote of Thanks | ? Alice Munyua,?Africa Union Commission | > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/charlesnduati2002%40yahoo.co.uk > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > From unclepedroschicken at gmail.com Fri Jan 22 17:33:51 2016 From: unclepedroschicken at gmail.com (Uncle Pedro Chicken) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 17:33:51 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program In-Reply-To: References: <772812368.14284712.1453445168817.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: will be there Jerry On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM, albert bwana via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hi Grace,,am coming > > On 22/01/2016, charles nduati via kictanet > wrote: > > Hi Grace, > > I confirm I will be there too > > many thanks > > Charles > > CHARLES N. NDUATI MOBILE:254-722728815 > > EMIAL:charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk,cnduati at gmail.com, > > > > > > From: Grace Githaiga via kictanet > > To: charlesnduati2002 at yahoo.co.uk > > Cc: Grace Githaiga > > Sent: Friday, 22 January 2016, 0:05 > > Subject: [kictanet] KICTANet/Kenic Cocktail Program > > > > Listers > > For those of you who confirmed, we look forward to seeing you this > evening. > > Below is the program. > > RgdsGG > > > > KICTANet/KenicCocktail Program Serena Hotel January 22, 2016 6.30 pm to > 9.00 > > pm. > > | 6:30-7:00pm: | Arrival Registration | > > | 7:00-7:05 | Welcome Remarks - Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC | > > | 7:05-7:15: | Setting the scene - Prof. > Bitange > > Ndemo | > > | 7.15-7.30 | Overview of Stakeholder WishList - J. Walubengo, > > Multimedia University | > > | 7:30:-7:35: | Handover 'Ceremony' of the > Wish > > List to Cabinet Secretary | > > | 3 Minutes Speeches/Remarks from Key Stakeholders' | > > | Civil Society | Grace Githaiga, KICTANet | > > | Media | Dr. Hanningtone Gaya - Chair, Media Owners Association > | > > | Industry | Kris Senanu, Chair KENIC | > > | Domain Names | Kariba Moko, Domain Registrars Association of > Kenya > > (DRAKE) | > > | Key Speeches by Guests | > > | Principal Secretary, Broadcast &Telecomms | Sammy Itemere | > > | Principal Secretary, ICT & Innovations | Victor Kyalo | > > | Keynote Address | Cabinet Secretary, Joe Mucheru | > > | | > > | Vote of Thanks | Alice Munyua, Africa Union Commission | > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/charlesnduati2002%40yahoo.co.uk > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for > > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and > bandwidth, > > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/unclepedroschicken%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rachealnakitare at yahoo.co.uk Fri Jan 22 18:02:00 2016 From: rachealnakitare at yahoo.co.uk (Racheal Nakitare) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] Connected Kenya Theme Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <940919622.14865431.1453474920885.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Appreciated PhyllisSharing a CNN Op-Ed for your perusal.? Africa's digital future won't start until we fix this - CNN.com | ? | | ? | | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? | | Africa's digital future won't start until we fix this - ...This week, the African Union is meeting to discuss human rights, and particularly how the continent can realize the full potential of its women. | | | | View on edition.cnn.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | ? | RegardsRacheal On Friday, 22 January 2016, 15:25, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote: Many thanks Phylis, We? appreciate your noble gesture to consult the community. We look forwad to similar engagements in future and are happy to contribute to the developement of Our ICT Sector whenever possible. Best Regards On 1/22/16, Phyllis Nyambura via kictanet wrote: > Dear Listers, > > > On behalf of the ICT Authority, I would wish to thank all of you who gave > their thoughts and views on the Connected Kenya agenda on barriers that > exists in the achievement of ?self-services? to mwananchi? in Kenya. > > > Your comments were very valuable and insightful and will go along way in > informing the event program. The event takes place on 21st to 24th March > and we will be enlisting for your participation soon. > > > We grouped the comments as below: > > > > > [image: Inline image 1] > >> >>> >>> > > > > Enjoy your weekend. > > > > Regards, > Phyllis Nyambura > Communications > The ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers, 12th Floor, Kenyatta Ave > P.O. Box 27150 - 00100 Nairobi, Kenya > t: + 254-020-2211960/62 | m: + 254 (0) 789396433 | e: pnyambura at ict.go.ke > Email: info at ict.go.ke or communications at ict.go.ke > > Visit: www.icta.go.ke > Become a fan: www.facebook.com/ICTAuthorityKE > > Follow us on twitter: @ICTAuthorityKE > --------------------- > > -- > > > ICT Authority > > Telposta Towers 12th Floor,? Kenyatta Ave > > PO Box 27150 - 00100? Nairobi Kenya > > Tel: +254 20 2211960 > > www.icta.go.ke > > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Yaovi Atohoun > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > To: AfrICANN Community List > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > Merci/thanks > - > Yaovi Atohoun > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > ICANN ? www.icann.org > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Sun Jan 24 10:47:27 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Dear Listers This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the wishlist attached. It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. Have a great week. 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Let's have more JaneOn Jan 24, 2016 10:47, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > > Dear Listers > > This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the wishlist attached.? > > It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation.? > > We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. > > Have a great week. > > Rgds > GG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Let's have > more > > Jane > On Jan 24, 2016 10:47, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Dear Listers > > This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this > last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the > wishlist attached. > > It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask > questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on > how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. > > We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. > > Have a great week. > > Rgds > GG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, > Walu and Ali) > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- *Ahmed Maawy* Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer swahilibox.co.ke www.okfn.org startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 1/25/16, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet wrote: > Thank you Grace. It was a great event, you guys did awesome things on that > day... And the future sure is bright. > > I know there was the promise of the platform to ask the CS our pending > questions, how do we do that? > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:16 PM, nnfeischools via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Thanks Grace and the team who planned it. It was a great event. Let's >> have >> more >> >> Jane >> On Jan 24, 2016 10:47, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Dear Listers >> >> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this >> last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the >> wishlist attached. >> >> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to >> ask >> questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on >> how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >> >> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >> >> Have a great week. >> >> Rgds >> GG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, >> Walu and Ali) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > *Ahmed Maawy* > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From muthoni at bake.or.ke Mon Jan 25 11:34:52 2016 From: muthoni at bake.or.ke (Jane Muthoni) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:34:52 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online Message-ID: Hello, This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ ---- Kind regards, Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 > From: Bobs > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and > NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Listers, > > This is for your information. Thanks. > > B. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Yaovi Atohoun > > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > > To: AfrICANN Community List > > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application > Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > > > > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes > NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin > le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s > lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re > visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN > and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in > June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful > candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please > read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > Merci/thanks > > - > > Yaovi Atohoun > > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > > ICANN ? www.icann.org > > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/02866a30/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 > From: Grace Githaiga > To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" > Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Listers > This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this > last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the > wishlist attached. > It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask > questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on > how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. > We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. > Have a great week. > RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, > Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.html > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx > Type: > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > Size: 206459 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.bin > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 404276 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.pdf > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > ------------------------------ > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Mon Jan 25 12:03:25 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:03:25 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <78A9725B-ABB8-4BC9-8B22-AB7EA109A8BC@hussein.me.ke> Jane Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety is now a criminal offense? If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this list have been offenders many times over. As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And what measurement do we use? Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet wrote: > > Hello, > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ > > ---- > > Kind regards, > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) > > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, wrote: >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >> Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >> 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >> From: Bobs >> To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >> NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >> Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Listers, >> >> This is for your information. Thanks. >> >> B. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> > From: Yaovi Atohoun >> > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >> > To: AfrICANN Community List >> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >> > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List >> > >> > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >> > >> > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >> > >> > Merci/thanks >> > - >> > Yaovi Atohoun >> > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa >> > ICANN ? www.icann.org >> > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 >> From: Grace Githaiga >> To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" >> Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear Listers >> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the wishlist attached. >> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >> Have a great week. >> RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx >> Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document >> Size: 206459 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf >> Type: application/pdf >> Size: 404276 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 >> ***************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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Learn about the various stages of development on the?Android?platform and study topics related to User Interface, application services, permissions and security, graphics and video resources, data persistence, mobile application marketing, application hosting and more. Upon completion of the Certificate program, students will have acquired: - The basic techniques required for developing apps for the?Android?OS platform that meet market needs - ?Communication skills that will enable them pitch their ideas to investors - ??Proposal writing skills for the applications that they are building and how to change their ?applications from a simple idea into a business. ?We would be?honored?if you would refer students to attend this event. Please let me know at your?convenience if you will be able to send any participants or if you can refer other interested students. Registration for the training can be done by following this link:?Register Here?For further questions, comments and/or suggestions, please contact the event coordinators:?(Tracy Weru and Brian Musila) ?Tracy Weru,Cell: (+254) 0724 239 020email:?tweru at strathmore.edu?Kind Regards Brian M. Musila?Tel: +254 711 804 539 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rachealnakitare at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jan 25 14:10:30 2016 From: rachealnakitare at yahoo.co.uk (Racheal Nakitare) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1822228601.1315058.1453720230090.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Thank you Grace and team. It was a good event. A come coming of sorts for the CS and the two PS.Looking forward to more engagements and sharingRegardsRacheal On Monday, 25 January 2016, 10:19, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote: Thanks GG, colleagues? and all who made it a success, Indeed i was humbled by CS Joe Mucheru and his two Principal Secretaries Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere. Not only did they demonstrate humility which is a hallmark of great leadership but they had time for as many participants who wanted to engage them.? I think we set a good tone for working together beyond the 100 days and we should support the CS and his two Principals as a community. A special thanks to KeNIC led by the CEO Mr. Omari, Chairman Kris Senanu, board members and staff? for supporting this noble cause. Best Regards
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On 1/25/16, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet wrote: > Thank you Grace. It was a great event, you guys did awesome things on that > day... And the future sure is bright. > > I know there was the promise of the platform to ask the CS our pending > questions, how do we do that? > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:16 PM, nnfeischools via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Thanks Grace and the team who planned it. It was a great event. Let's >> have >> more >> >> Jane >> On Jan 24, 2016 10:47, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Dear Listers >> >> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this >> last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the >> wishlist attached. >> >> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to >> ask >> questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on >> how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >> >> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >> >> Have a great week. >> >> Rgds >> GG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, >> Walu and Ali) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > > -- > *Ahmed Maawy* > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rachealnakitare%40yahoo.co.uk The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ephraim at accessnow.org Mon Jan 25 13:52:14 2016 From: ephraim at accessnow.org (Ephraim Percy Kenyanito) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 13:52:14 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online Message-ID: Dear Listers, Jane and Ali, It is very unfortunate to hear of these case and arrests over last week and the weekend. What do you think is the best strategy for us to work together to challenge the constitutionality of these provisions of the 2013 law; "section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." In my opinion, this provision is vague and in contravention with Customary International Law, I refer to *The Sunday Times v The United Kingdom* where the European Court of Human Rights stated that the law must be of ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? In December 2014, the African Court on Human and Peoples? Rights ruled that imprisonment for defamation violates the right to freedom of expression while criminal laws should only be used in restricted circumstances. The Court ordered Burkina Faso to change its criminal defamation laws. Though this case was about criminal defamation, the principle might be interpreted to be the same regarding criminal restriction of free speech: http://www.mediadefence.org/news/african-court-delivers-landmark-ruling-criminal-libel In May 2015, In its first judgment on free speech, the East African Court of Justice ruled that restrictions on the press imposed through Burundi?s 2013 Press Law violate the right to press freedom and the right to freedom of expression. ( http://www.mediadefence.org/news/east-african-court-condemns-burundi-press-restrictions ) I think it is that time that we need to brainstorm the best strategy for challenging these provisions in the Kenyan courts and maybe an appeal at the EAC and AU level as from December 2014, they are very interested to set precedent in this area. Please see something, I wrote on my personal blog at the beginning of 2014 regarding these laws: https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ ?P.S- I have copied Donald Deya from the Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) who acted on behalf of the Burundi Journalists? Union, and Henry and Riva from Article 19 given their experience litigating such cases and MLDI?s Legal Director Nani Jansen given their experience with the Burkina Faso case. -- Best Regards, *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst Access Now | accessnow.org tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 @ekenyanito PGP: E6BA8DC1 Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express , our weekly newsletter on digital rights *Sign up* for our action alerts On 25 January 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Jane > > Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- > > "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and > Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. > Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person > who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or > other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or > menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for > the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to > another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a > fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding > three months, or both." > > So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless > anxiety is now a criminal offense? > > If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this > list have been offenders many times over. > > As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, > decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on > social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And > what measurement do we use? > > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hello, > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution > of Kenyans online. Read more here: > http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ > > ---- > > Kind regards, > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya > (BAKE) > > *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Mon Jan 25 14:40:33 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:40:33 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ephraim There is already a court case challenging the constitutionality of the Act. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 25 Jan 2016, at 1:52 PM, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito wrote: > > Dear Listers, Jane and Ali, > > It is very unfortunate to hear of these case and arrests over last week and the weekend. > > What do you think is the best strategy for us to work together to challenge the constitutionality of these provisions of the 2013 law; "section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." > > In my opinion, this provision is vague and in contravention with Customary International Law, I refer to The Sunday Times v The United Kingdom where the European Court of Human Rights stated that the law must be of ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? > > In December 2014, the African Court on Human and Peoples? Rights ruled that imprisonment for defamation violates the right to freedom of expression while criminal laws should only be used in restricted circumstances. The Court ordered Burkina Faso to change its criminal defamation laws. Though this case was about criminal defamation, the principle might be interpreted to be the same regarding criminal restriction of free speech: http://www.mediadefence.org/news/african-court-delivers-landmark-ruling-criminal-libel > > In May 2015, In its first judgment on free speech, the East African Court of Justice ruled that restrictions on the press imposed through Burundi?s 2013 Press Law violate the right to press freedom and the right to freedom of expression. (http://www.mediadefence.org/news/east-african-court-condemns-burundi-press-restrictions) > > I think it is that time that we need to brainstorm the best strategy for challenging these provisions in the Kenyan courts and maybe an appeal at the EAC and AU level as from December 2014, they are very interested to set precedent in this area. > > Please see something, I wrote on my personal blog at the beginning of 2014 regarding these laws: https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ > > ?P.S- I have copied Donald Deya from the Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) who acted on behalf of the Burundi Journalists? Union, and Henry and Riva from Article 19 given their experience litigating such cases and MLDI?s Legal Director Nani Jansen given their experience with the Burkina Faso case. > > -- > > Best Regards, > Ephraim Percy Kenyanito > Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst > Access Now | accessnow.org > > tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 > @ekenyanito > PGP: E6BA8DC1 > Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 > > Subscribe to the Access Now Express, our weekly newsletter on digital rights > Sign up for our action alerts > >> On 25 January 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: >> Jane >> >> Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- >> >> "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." >> >> So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety is now a criminal offense? >> >> If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this list have been offenders many times over. >> >> As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And what measurement do we use? >> >> >> Ali Hussein >> Principal >> Hussein & Associates >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) >>> >>> T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 >>> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >>> >>> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ephraim at accessnow.org Mon Jan 25 14:41:38 2016 From: ephraim at accessnow.org (Ephraim Percy Kenyanito) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 14:41:38 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Seems like, I don't have it on record, please share with me the number and the details, would like to follow up and support where possible. -- Best Regards, *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst Access Now | accessnow.org tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 @ekenyanito PGP: E6BA8DC1 Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express , our weekly newsletter on digital rights *Sign up* for our action alerts On 25 January 2016 at 14:40, Ali Hussein wrote: > Ephraim > > There is already a court case challenging the constitutionality of the > Act. > > *Ali Hussein* > *Principal* > *Hussein & Associates* > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking > what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 25 Jan 2016, at 1:52 PM, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito > wrote: > > Dear Listers, Jane and Ali, > > It is very unfortunate to hear of these case and arrests over last week > and the weekend. > > What do you think is the best strategy for us to work together to > challenge the constitutionality of these provisions of the 2013 law; > "section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), > as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a > telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed > telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly > offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a > message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, > inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and > shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to > imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." > > In my opinion, this provision is vague and in contravention with Customary > International Law, I refer to *The Sunday Times v The United Kingdom* > where the European Court of Human Rights stated that the law must be of > ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? > > In December 2014, the African Court on Human and Peoples? Rights ruled > that imprisonment for defamation violates the right to freedom of > expression while criminal laws should only be used in restricted > circumstances. The Court ordered Burkina Faso to change its criminal > defamation laws. Though this case was about criminal defamation, the > principle might be interpreted to be the same regarding criminal > restriction of free speech: > http://www.mediadefence.org/news/african-court-delivers-landmark-ruling-criminal-libel > > In May 2015, In its first judgment on free speech, the East African Court > of Justice ruled that restrictions on the press imposed through Burundi?s > 2013 Press Law violate the right to press freedom and the right to freedom > of expression. ( > http://www.mediadefence.org/news/east-african-court-condemns-burundi-press-restrictions > ) > > I think it is that time that we need to brainstorm the best strategy for > challenging these provisions in the Kenyan courts and maybe an appeal at > the EAC and AU level as from December 2014, they are very interested to set > precedent in this area. > > Please see something, I wrote on my personal blog at the beginning of 2014 > regarding these laws: > https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ > > ?P.S- I have copied Donald Deya from the Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) > who acted on behalf of the Burundi Journalists? Union, and Henry and Riva > from Article 19 given their experience litigating such cases and MLDI?s > Legal Director Nani Jansen given their experience with the Burkina Faso > case. > > -- > Best Regards, > > *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* > Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst > Access Now | accessnow.org > > tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 > @ekenyanito > PGP: E6BA8DC1 > Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 > > *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express > , our weekly newsletter on > digital rights > *Sign up* for our action alerts > > On 25 January 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Jane >> >> Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- >> >> "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and >> Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. >> Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person >> who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or >> other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or >> menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for >> the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to >> another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a >> fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding >> three months, or both." >> >> So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless >> anxiety is now a criminal offense? >> >> If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this >> list have been offenders many times over. >> >> As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, >> decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on >> social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And >> what measurement do we use? >> >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >> >> ---- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >> (BAKE) >> >> *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 >> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >> >> >> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >> @cheekynoni >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 15:11:08 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:11:08 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [Internet Policy] paper on Internet fragmentation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Lister's, This is for your information. Regards ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: William Drake Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 18:46:50 +0100 Subject: [Internet Policy] paper on Internet fragmentation To: InternetPolicy at elists.isoc.org Hi Sorry for cross-posting to a couple lists, but in case anyone here is interested: at the WEF annual meeting that just concluded, a paper by myself, Vint Cerf and Wolfgang Kleinwachter was released. "Internet Fragmentation: An Overview" is a mapping exercise to help set the stage for further discussions, and an argument for a broad multidimensional approach to fragmentation that in a sense parallels the approach advocated in the IG definition debate of a decade ago. The paper is at http://www.weforum.org/reports/internet-fragmentation-an-overview . The paper was discussed a bit at a couple sessions and we did an Issue Briefing discussion with Estonia President Toomas Ilves, Jonathan Zittrain of Harvard, and myself, video of which is at http://www.weforum.org/events/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2016/sessions/issue-briefing-internet-fragmentation . Best, Bill ************************************************************* William J. Drake International Fellow & Lecturer Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ University of Zurich, Switzerland william.drake at uzh.ch (direct), wjdrake at gmail.com (lists), www.williamdrake.org The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections New book at https://www.apc.org/en/WGIG ************************************************************* -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ From ngigi at at.co.ke Mon Jan 25 15:11:19 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Waithaka Ngigi) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:11:19 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ephraim at accessnow.org Mon Jan 25 15:17:30 2016 From: ephraim at accessnow.org (Ephraim Percy Kenyanito) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 15:17:30 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> References: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> Message-ID: Yes it is true that freedom of speech/ media freedom is not absolute as there is a 3 part test ((i) be provided by law, (ii) pursue a legitimate aim, and (iii) be necessary in a democratic society, in order to be permissible under Customary International Law, however, the law must be of ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? My contention is that section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act read with the Penal Code and certain provisions of Media Act can be used to prosecute anything. Please see my 2014 analysis here: https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ -- Best Regards, *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst Access Now | accessnow.org tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 @ekenyanito PGP: E6BA8DC1 Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express , our weekly newsletter on digital rights *Sign up* for our action alerts On 25 January 2016 at 15:11, Waithaka Ngigi wrote: > Hi, > > Would like to ask, but don't those laws have a role to play in limiting > propagation of offensive media? > > If anyone is arrested for sharing on social media, grossly photos of our > dead soldiers; soldiers who are our brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, > sons & daughters?, then the fine and prison terms should be tripled from > what they are as per the current law. > > Freedom comes with responsibility, and in this and other similiar cases > the latter has been completely pushed aside at the altar of freedom. > > Waithaka Ngigi > > Alliance Technologies > www.at.co.ke > *From: *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet > *Sent: *Monday, January 25, 2016 2:53 PM > *To: *Ngigi Waithaka > *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Cc: *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito; Nani.Jansen at mediadefence.org; > info at mediadefence.org; Jane Muthoni; ddeya at lawyersofafrica.org; Donald > Deya > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > Kenyans online > > Dear Listers, Jane and Ali, > > It is very unfortunate to hear of these case and arrests over last week > and the weekend. > > What do you think is the best strategy for us to work together to > challenge the constitutionality of these provisions of the 2013 law; > "section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), > as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a > telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed > telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly > offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a > message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, > inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and > shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to > imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." > > In my opinion, this provision is vague and in contravention with Customary > International Law, I refer to *The Sunday Times v The United Kingdom* > where the European Court of Human Rights stated that the law must be of > ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? > > In December 2014, the African Court on Human and Peoples? Rights ruled > that imprisonment for defamation violates the right to freedom of > expression while criminal laws should only be used in restricted > circumstances. The Court ordered Burkina Faso to change its criminal > defamation laws. Though this case was about criminal defamation, the > principle might be interpreted to be the same regarding criminal > restriction of free speech: > http://www.mediadefence.org/news/african-court-delivers-landmark-ruling-criminal-libel > > In May 2015, In its first judgment on free speech, the East African Court > of Justice ruled that restrictions on the press imposed through Burundi?s > 2013 Press Law violate the right to press freedom and the right to freedom > of expression. ( > http://www.mediadefence.org/news/east-african-court-condemns-burundi-press-restrictions > ) > > I think it is that time that we need to brainstorm the best strategy for > challenging these provisions in the Kenyan courts and maybe an appeal at > the EAC and AU level as from December 2014, they are very interested to set > precedent in this area. > > Please see something, I wrote on my personal blog at the beginning of 2014 > regarding these laws: > https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ > > ?P.S- I have copied Donald Deya from the Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) > who acted on behalf of the Burundi Journalists? Union, and Henry and Riva > from Article 19 given their experience litigating such cases and MLDI?s > Legal Director Nani Jansen given their experience with the Burkina Faso > case. > > -- > Best Regards, > > *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* > Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst > Access Now | accessnow.org > > tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 > @ekenyanito > PGP: E6BA8DC1 > Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 > > *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express > , our weekly newsletter on > digital rights > *Sign up* for our action alerts > > On 25 January 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Jane >> >> Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- >> >> "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and >> Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. >> Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person >> who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or >> other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or >> menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for >> the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to >> another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a >> fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding >> three months, or both." >> >> So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless >> anxiety is now a criminal offense? >> >> If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this >> list have been offenders many times over. >> >> As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, >> decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on >> social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And >> what measurement do we use? >> >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >> >> ---- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >> (BAKE) >> >> *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 >> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >> >> >> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >> @cheekynoni >> >> >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vicbwire at gmail.com Mon Jan 25 17:31:46 2016 From: vicbwire at gmail.com (Victor bwire) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 17:31:46 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Colleagues Just picked this from another group discussion In June 2015 ARTICLE 19 filed a case in the constitutional court challenging Section 29 of the KICA Act . The ruling is being issued on 28 January. Meanwhile see - https://www.article19.org/resources.php/resource/38241/en/kenya:-intimidation-and-harassment-of-bloggers-reaches-new-high Regards, Patrick On 25 Jan 2016 14:52, "Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Dear Listers, Jane and Ali, > > It is very unfortunate to hear of these case and arrests over last week > and the weekend. > > What do you think is the best strategy for us to work together to > challenge the constitutionality of these provisions of the 2013 law; > "section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), > as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a > telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed > telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly > offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a > message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, > inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and > shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to > imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." > > In my opinion, this provision is vague and in contravention with Customary > International Law, I refer to *The Sunday Times v The United Kingdom* > where the European Court of Human Rights stated that the law must be of > ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? > > In December 2014, the African Court on Human and Peoples? Rights ruled > that imprisonment for defamation violates the right to freedom of > expression while criminal laws should only be used in restricted > circumstances. The Court ordered Burkina Faso to change its criminal > defamation laws. Though this case was about criminal defamation, the > principle might be interpreted to be the same regarding criminal > restriction of free speech: > http://www.mediadefence.org/news/african-court-delivers-landmark-ruling-criminal-libel > > In May 2015, In its first judgment on free speech, the East African Court > of Justice ruled that restrictions on the press imposed through Burundi?s > 2013 Press Law violate the right to press freedom and the right to freedom > of expression. ( > http://www.mediadefence.org/news/east-african-court-condemns-burundi-press-restrictions > ) > > I think it is that time that we need to brainstorm the best strategy for > challenging these provisions in the Kenyan courts and maybe an appeal at > the EAC and AU level as from December 2014, they are very interested to set > precedent in this area. > > Please see something, I wrote on my personal blog at the beginning of 2014 > regarding these laws: > https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ > > ?P.S- I have copied Donald Deya from the Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) > who acted on behalf of the Burundi Journalists? Union, and Henry and Riva > from Article 19 given their experience litigating such cases and MLDI?s > Legal Director Nani Jansen given their experience with the Burkina Faso > case. > > -- > Best Regards, > > *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* > Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst > Access Now | accessnow.org > > tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 > @ekenyanito > PGP: E6BA8DC1 > Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 > > *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express > , our weekly newsletter on > digital rights > *Sign up* for our action alerts > > On 25 January 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Jane >> >> Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- >> >> "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and >> Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. >> Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person >> who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or >> other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or >> menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for >> the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to >> another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a >> fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding >> three months, or both." >> >> So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless >> anxiety is now a criminal offense? >> >> If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on this >> list have been offenders many times over. >> >> As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, >> decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on >> social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And >> what measurement do we use? >> >> >> *Ali Hussein* >> *Principal* >> *Hussein & Associates* >> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> >> Skype: abu-jomo >> >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> >> >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >> >> ---- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >> (BAKE) >> >> *T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 >> 800927 >> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >> >> >> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >> @cheekynoni >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/vicbwire%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From ephraim at accessnow.org Mon Jan 25 20:24:38 2016 From: ephraim at accessnow.org (Ephraim Percy Kenyanito) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 20:24:38 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great to hear that Henry, Riva (and the amazing team at Article19) have this covered. Looking forward to the court outcome. -- Best Regards, *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst Access Now | accessnow.org tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 @ekenyanito PGP: E6BA8DC1 Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express , our weekly newsletter on digital rights *Sign up* for our action alerts On 25 January 2016 at 17:31, Victor bwire wrote: > > Colleagues > > > Just picked this from another group discussion > > > In June 2015 ARTICLE 19 filed a case in the constitutional court > challenging Section 29 of the KICA Act . The ruling is being issued on 28 > January. > > > > Meanwhile see - > https://www.article19.org/resources.php/resource/38241/en/kenya:-intimidation-and-harassment-of-bloggers-reaches-new-high > > > > > > Regards, > > Patrick > > > On 25 Jan 2016 14:52, "Ephraim Percy Kenyanito via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Dear Listers, Jane and Ali, >> >> It is very unfortunate to hear of these case and arrests over last week >> and the weekend. >> >> What do you think is the best strategy for us to work together to >> challenge the constitutionality of these provisions of the 2013 law; >> "section 29 of the Kenya Information and Communications (KICA) Act (2009), >> as grounds for arrests and prosecution. Section 29, improper use of a >> telecommunication system, says that a person who by means of a licensed >> telecommunication system sends a message or other matter that is grossly >> offensive or of an indecent, obscene or menacing character; or (b) sends a >> message that he knows to be false for the purpose of causing annoyance, >> inconvenience or needless anxiety to another person; commits an offence and >> shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to >> imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months, or both." >> >> In my opinion, this provision is vague and in contravention with >> Customary International Law, I refer to *The Sunday Times v The United >> Kingdom* where the European Court of Human Rights stated that the law >> must be of ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his >> conduct.? >> >> In December 2014, the African Court on Human and Peoples? Rights ruled >> that imprisonment for defamation violates the right to freedom of >> expression while criminal laws should only be used in restricted >> circumstances. The Court ordered Burkina Faso to change its criminal >> defamation laws. Though this case was about criminal defamation, the >> principle might be interpreted to be the same regarding criminal >> restriction of free speech: >> http://www.mediadefence.org/news/african-court-delivers-landmark-ruling-criminal-libel >> >> In May 2015, In its first judgment on free speech, the East African Court >> of Justice ruled that restrictions on the press imposed through Burundi?s >> 2013 Press Law violate the right to press freedom and the right to freedom >> of expression. ( >> http://www.mediadefence.org/news/east-african-court-condemns-burundi-press-restrictions >> ) >> >> I think it is that time that we need to brainstorm the best strategy for >> challenging these provisions in the Kenyan courts and maybe an appeal at >> the EAC and AU level as from December 2014, they are very interested to set >> precedent in this area. >> >> Please see something, I wrote on my personal blog at the beginning of >> 2014 regarding these laws: >> https://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-get-real-about-kenyan-media-laws/ >> >> ?P.S- I have copied Donald Deya from the Pan African Lawyers Union (PALU) >> who acted on behalf of the Burundi Journalists? Union, and Henry and Riva >> from Article 19 given their experience litigating such cases and MLDI?s >> Legal Director Nani Jansen given their experience with the Burkina Faso >> case. >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> >> *Ephraim Percy Kenyanito* >> Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst >> Access Now | accessnow.org >> >> tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 >> @ekenyanito >> PGP: E6BA8DC1 >> Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 >> >> *Subscribe *to the Access Now Express >> , our weekly newsletter on >> digital rights >> *Sign up* for our action alerts >> >> On 25 January 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Jane >>> >>> Thanks for sharing. This paragraph in the article stands out:- >>> >>> "Police have frequently used section 29 of the Kenya Information and >>> Communications (KICA) Act (2009), as grounds for arrests and prosecution. >>> Section 29, improper use of a telecommunication system, says that a person >>> who by means of a licensed telecommunication system sends a message or >>> other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene or >>> menacing character; or (b) sends a message that he knows to be false for >>> the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to >>> another person; commits an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a >>> fine not exceeding Ksh. 50,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding >>> three months, or both." >>> >>> So sending a message that causes annoyance, inconvenience or needless >>> anxiety is now a criminal offense? >>> >>> If we continue to be intimidated by this then I fear most listers on >>> this list have been offenders many times over. >>> >>> As a country we need to review how we engage and of course decency, >>> decorum and etiquette should be foremost in our minds when we post on >>> social media. The question is how do we deal with supposed offenders. And >>> what measurement do we use? >>> >>> >>> *Ali Hussein* >>> *Principal* >>> *Hussein & Associates* >>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking >>> what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 11:34 AM, Jane Muthoni via kictanet < >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >>> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >>> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >>> (BAKE) >>> >>> *T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 >>> 800927 >>> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >>> >>> >>> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >>> @cheekynoni >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/vicbwire%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Mon Jan 25 21:38:28 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:38:28 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation? References: <84e9f392a668e74df589375c7f995a322e7.20160125100220@mail98.atl71.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: Ali, Walu, this reminds me of a conversation on PDPM: Per Diem Policy Making. > > > > How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation? > By Wayan Vota on January 25, 2016 > > > In the research article Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation: A Sustainability Challenge by Terje Aksel Sanner and Johan Ivar S?b? of Univeristy of Oslo, Norway, the authors note what we all have experienced. > > By paying for attention, ICT4D projects obtain immediate responses from an understaffed government system, which sooner or later will have to retract its attention to cater to other equally important tasks. Yet for ICT4D practitioners, the number of workshops and participants are measurable indicators by which projects are evaluated, and are crucial to obtain, keep, and grow international donor funding. > > The researchers note that the use of per diems to attract project participation is certainly not the only obstacle to ICT4D sustainability. Other obstacles include: > > Underdeveloped technology and support infrastructure. > Technical bias of projects to focus on the technology vs. the users. > Lack of alignment of interests between projects and users. > Pilot project orientation, or ?pilotitis?. > However, the researchers contend that per diem is a contributing factor that has not received its fair share of attention, and per diem is a complicating factor that may induce recipients to abstain from critiquing unsustainable interventions. > > But how to combat this issue when civil servants expect that their low salary positions will be enhanced by workshops with monetary incentives such as per diems, which are perceived as legitimate income? If ICT4D practitioners don?t pay per diems, and others do, their projects may seem to have less user engagement and adoption, which would directly threaten project sustainability in the short-term, much less the long term. > > Two Possible Ways to Stop Paying Per Diems > The researchers argue that on-the-job training is a viable option, especially for refresher training. It allows for ICT4D practitioners to: > > Perform a reality check on the intervention. > Identify the right people for training. > Become sensitive to participants? actual work practices. > Learn how technology innovations may coexist with equipment and routines already in place. > Of course, on-site training can be more costly in time, effort, and funding and sometimes it is unrealistic due to the sheer number of potential users. However, the main barrier to adoption could be the perception that it?s unfair because it cheats participants out of ?legitimate? allowances. > > They say that another way to strengthen the capacity of local institutions is for donors to establish a shared pool of financial resources and technical assistance that stretches beyond the lifespan of individual projects in close collaboration with ministerial functionaries. This resource pool would be utilized by ICT4D projects to cultivate public sector structures that can implement policies and harmonize ICT4D projects over time. > > What is Your Opinion? > We can all agree that paying per diems creates false incentives for ICT4D project participation, and the practice should stop. But how to do it? Should we focus on on-the-job training and shared local resource pools? Or is that a fool?s errand and we should do something else? If so, what? > > What has worked for you? What hasn?t? Please tell us in the comments. > > Do You Agree? Share Your Opinion on ICTworks > Recent ICTworks Posts > Please RSVP Now: How Can We Use IoT for Development? > How Can We Harness the Internet of Things for Global Development? > 5 Insights from MERL Tech > Be Honest: You Hate Free Basics Because It?s Facebook > Please RSVP Now for Digital Development: From Principle to Practice > Thanks for your interest in ICTworks - an ICT4D practitioner community. ICTworks is an initiative of Inveneo and FHI 360. > > Our mailing address is: > ICTworks > 972 Mission Street > 5th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94103 > > Add us to your address book > > > Want to change how you receive these emails? > You can update your preferences or unsubscribe from this list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bee.aidi at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 00:27:34 2016 From: bee.aidi at gmail.com (Beryl Aidi) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:27:34 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation? In-Reply-To: References: <84e9f392a668e74df589375c7f995a322e7.20160125100220@mail98.atl71.mcdlv.net> Message-ID: Thanks Nanjira Great piece. I think per diems for participation, not just in ICT4D projects, but all NGO and government related projects should be highly discouraged. It kills the real spirit of cooperation and passion. I think only real costs should be considered eg out-of-location transport and accomodation. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Ali, Walu, this reminds me of a conversation on PDPM: Per Diem Policy > Making. > > > How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation? > *By > Wayan Vota on January 25, 2016* > > [image: ict4d-per-diem] > > In the research article Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation: > A Sustainability Challenge > > by Terje Aksel Sanner and Johan Ivar S?b? of Univeristy of Oslo, Norway, > the authors note what we all have experienced. > > By paying for attention, ICT4D projects obtain immediate responses from an > understaffed government system, which sooner or later will have to retract > its attention to cater to other equally important tasks. Yet for ICT4D > practitioners, the number of workshops and participants are measurable > indicators by which projects are evaluated, and are crucial to obtain, > keep, and grow international donor funding. > [image: per-deim-ict4d] > > The researchers note that the use of per diems to attract project > participation is certainly not the only obstacle to ICT4D sustainability. > Other obstacles include: > > - Underdeveloped technology and support infrastructure. > - Technical bias of projects to focus on the technology vs. the users. > - Lack of alignment of interests between projects and users. > - Pilot project orientation, or ?pilotitis?. > > However, the researchers contend that per diem is a contributing factor > that has not received its fair share of attention, and per diem is a > complicating factor that may induce recipients to abstain from critiquing > unsustainable interventions. > > But how to combat this issue when civil servants expect that their low > salary positions will be enhanced by workshops with monetary incentives > such as per diems, which are perceived as legitimate income? If ICT4D > practitioners don?t pay per diems, and others do, their projects may seem > to have less user engagement and adoption, which would directly threaten > project sustainability in the short-term, much less the long term. > Two Possible Ways to Stop Paying Per Diems > > The researchers argue that on-the-job training is a viable option, > especially for refresher training. It allows for ICT4D practitioners to: > > - Perform a reality check on the intervention. > - Identify the right people for training. > - Become sensitive to participants? actual work practices. > - Learn how technology innovations may coexist with equipment and > routines already in place. > > Of course, on-site training can be more costly in time, effort, and > funding and sometimes it is unrealistic due to the sheer number of > potential users. However, the main barrier to adoption could be the > perception that it?s unfair because it cheats participants out of > ?legitimate? allowances. > > They say that another way to strengthen the capacity of local institutions > is for donors to establish a shared pool of financial resources and > technical assistance that stretches beyond the lifespan of individual > projects in close collaboration with ministerial functionaries. This > resource pool would be utilized by ICT4D projects to cultivate public > sector structures that can implement policies and harmonize ICT4D projects > over time. > What is Your Opinion? > > We can all agree that paying per diems creates false incentives for ICT4D > project participation, and the practice should stop. But how to do it? > Should we focus on on-the-job training and shared local resource pools? Or > is that a fool?s errand and we should do something else? If so, what? > > What has worked for you? What hasn?t? *Please tell us in the comments > * > . > Do You Agree? Share Your Opinion > > on ICTworks > Recent ICTworks Posts Please RSVP Now: How Can We Use IoT for Development? > > How Can We Harness the Internet of Things for Global Development? > > 5 Insights from MERL Tech > > Be Honest: You Hate Free Basics Because It?s Facebook > > Please RSVP Now for Digital Development: From Principle to Practice > > Thanks for your interest in ICTworks - an ICT4D practitioner community. > ICTworks is an initiative of Inveneo and FHI 360. > > *Our mailing address is:* > ICTworks > 972 Mission Street > 5th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94103 > > Add us to your address book > > > > Want to change how you receive these emails? > You can update your preferences > > or unsubscribe from this list > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bee.aidi%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Beryl *********************************************** Darkness cannot put out the Light. It can only make God brighter. ?Author Unknown. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Tue Jan 26 06:17:36 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:17:36 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> References: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> Message-ID: On Jan 25, 2016 3:11 PM, "Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Hi, > > Would like to ask, but don't those laws have a role to play in limiting propagation of offensive media? > > If anyone is arrested for sharing on social media, grossly photos of our dead soldiers; soldiers who are our brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, sons & daughters?, then the fine and prison terms should be tripled from what they are as per the current law. Hi Ngigi, There is no such law. When when CORD, Article 19, and KNHRC challenged the constitutionality of the Security Laws Ammendment act 2014, the court ruled that it's unconstitutional to prosecute anybody for sharing photos, or any information that may jeopardise the security organ's operations. The media was urged to be responsible and self regulate, but it's not criminal to share such information. This one is done and dusted. There is no way a competent court in Kenya will prosecute anybody for sharing such information. Yesterday the police could not find grounds to prosecute Yasin Juma. The only provisions that stood in 2014 where those on surveillance; monitoring and interception of communication. The prohibition on the publication or broadcast of images of dead or injured people, which are ?likely to cause fear and alarm in the general public, or disturb the peace?, was disproportionate. The Court found that there was no rational connection between the limitation on publication and the fight against terrorism.The Court further agreed that the criminalisation of the publication or broadcast of information ?which undermines investigations or security operations? by the national police and defense forces would have a chilling effect on freedom of expression. The Court held that the effect of the prohibition would amount to ?a blanket ban on publication of any security-related information without consulting the National Police Service?. And Nkaiseri and his ilk should be prosecuted for mistreating and harassing Kenyans. We should not live in fear, nor play into the hands and strategies of the enemy, Alshabab. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Tue Jan 26 06:47:10 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:47:10 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] (no subject) Message-ID: Question is, can the practice be stopped? So many people in the field have come to associate research with per diems, and the remuneration rates just keep going up. It's like we pay for these insights, but it's a trade off that has become acceptable because research has predominantly been extractive, whether conducted by visiting or local researchers. One of the things we've been working on at iHub Research is ensuring we go back to the field and share findings from these studies with the very people who generate insights. And while it may not directly translate to income, the effort has been well received so far. Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. > On 26 Jan 2016, at 00:32, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project > Participation? (Beryl Aidi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:27:34 +0300 > From: Beryl Aidi > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project > Participation? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks Nanjira > > Great piece. I think per diems for participation, not just in ICT4D > projects, but all NGO and government related projects should be highly > discouraged. It kills the real spirit of cooperation and passion. I think > only real costs should be considered eg out-of-location transport and > accomodation. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Ali, Walu, this reminds me of a conversation on PDPM: Per Diem Policy >> Making. >> >> >> How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation? >> *By >> Wayan Vota on January 25, 2016* >> >> [image: ict4d-per-diem] >> >> In the research article Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation: >> A Sustainability Challenge >> >> by Terje Aksel Sanner and Johan Ivar S?b? of Univeristy of Oslo, Norway, >> the authors note what we all have experienced. >> >> By paying for attention, ICT4D projects obtain immediate responses from an >> understaffed government system, which sooner or later will have to retract >> its attention to cater to other equally important tasks. Yet for ICT4D >> practitioners, the number of workshops and participants are measurable >> indicators by which projects are evaluated, and are crucial to obtain, >> keep, and grow international donor funding. >> [image: per-deim-ict4d] >> >> The researchers note that the use of per diems to attract project >> participation is certainly not the only obstacle to ICT4D sustainability. >> Other obstacles include: >> >> - Underdeveloped technology and support infrastructure. >> - Technical bias of projects to focus on the technology vs. the users. >> - Lack of alignment of interests between projects and users. >> - Pilot project orientation, or ?pilotitis?. >> >> However, the researchers contend that per diem is a contributing factor >> that has not received its fair share of attention, and per diem is a >> complicating factor that may induce recipients to abstain from critiquing >> unsustainable interventions. >> >> But how to combat this issue when civil servants expect that their low >> salary positions will be enhanced by workshops with monetary incentives >> such as per diems, which are perceived as legitimate income? If ICT4D >> practitioners don?t pay per diems, and others do, their projects may seem >> to have less user engagement and adoption, which would directly threaten >> project sustainability in the short-term, much less the long term. >> Two Possible Ways to Stop Paying Per Diems >> >> The researchers argue that on-the-job training is a viable option, >> especially for refresher training. It allows for ICT4D practitioners to: >> >> - Perform a reality check on the intervention. >> - Identify the right people for training. >> - Become sensitive to participants? actual work practices. >> - Learn how technology innovations may coexist with equipment and >> routines already in place. >> >> Of course, on-site training can be more costly in time, effort, and >> funding and sometimes it is unrealistic due to the sheer number of >> potential users. However, the main barrier to adoption could be the >> perception that it?s unfair because it cheats participants out of >> ?legitimate? allowances. >> >> They say that another way to strengthen the capacity of local institutions >> is for donors to establish a shared pool of financial resources and >> technical assistance that stretches beyond the lifespan of individual >> projects in close collaboration with ministerial functionaries. This >> resource pool would be utilized by ICT4D projects to cultivate public >> sector structures that can implement policies and harmonize ICT4D projects >> over time. >> What is Your Opinion? >> >> We can all agree that paying per diems creates false incentives for ICT4D >> project participation, and the practice should stop. But how to do it? >> Should we focus on on-the-job training and shared local resource pools? Or >> is that a fool?s errand and we should do something else? If so, what? >> >> What has worked for you? What hasn?t? *Please tell us in the comments >> * >> . >> Do You Agree? 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Beryl > *********************************************** > Darkness cannot put out the Light. It can only make God brighter. ?Author > Unknown. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > ------------------------------ > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 94 > ***************************************** From bee.aidi at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 07:14:45 2016 From: bee.aidi at gmail.com (Beryl Aidi) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 07:14:45 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nanjira Yes, I think with determination, it is possible to stop it, but only if the sector acts unitedly. I once worked at a place where the per diem offered was pegged at a certain amount. Granted, still it was per diem, but the aim was not to increase it, but gradually phase it out. Then, another organization, a new comer with deep pockets but not much commitment to the work, saw it as a competition that the community wasn't attending its events and guess what, they tripled the per diem, and now not only did the community abandon our events because of "little pay", they now started demanding higher per diems. I'd say if all players agreed, there would be a more cost effective way of community participation without using per diem as a way to compensate or in the case I just mentioned, to 'entice' them. Regards Beryl On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Question is, can the practice be stopped? So many people in the field have > come to associate research with per diems, and the remuneration rates just > keep going up. It's like we pay for these insights, but it's a trade off > that has become acceptable because research has predominantly been > extractive, whether conducted by visiting or local researchers. One of the > things we've been working on at iHub Research is ensuring we go back to the > field and share findings from these studies with the very people who > generate insights. And while it may not directly translate to income, the > effort has been well received so far. > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > On 26 Jan 2016, at 00:32, kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke wrote: > > > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project > > Participation? (Beryl Aidi) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 00:27:34 +0300 > > From: Beryl Aidi > > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project > > Participation? > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Thanks Nanjira > > > > Great piece. I think per diems for participation, not just in ICT4D > > projects, but all NGO and government related projects should be highly > > discouraged. It kills the real spirit of cooperation and passion. I think > > only real costs should be considered eg out-of-location transport and > > accomodation. > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet < > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > >> Ali, Walu, this reminds me of a conversation on PDPM: Per Diem Policy > >> Making. > >> > >> > >> How To Stop Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project Participation? > >> < > http://ictworks.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7&id=f9e6e2def5&e=f995a322e7> > *By > >> Wayan Vota on January 25, 2016* > >> > >> [image: ict4d-per-diem] > >> > >> In the research article Paying Per Diems for ICT4D Project > Participation: > >> A Sustainability Challenge > >> < > http://ictworks.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7&id=e26f600995&e=f995a322e7 > > > >> by Terje Aksel Sanner and Johan Ivar S?b? of Univeristy of Oslo, Norway, > >> the authors note what we all have experienced. > >> > >> By paying for attention, ICT4D projects obtain immediate responses from > an > >> understaffed government system, which sooner or later will have to > retract > >> its attention to cater to other equally important tasks. Yet for ICT4D > >> practitioners, the number of workshops and participants are measurable > >> indicators by which projects are evaluated, and are crucial to obtain, > >> keep, and grow international donor funding. > >> [image: per-deim-ict4d] > >> < > http://ictworks.us4.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7&id=a03ede9d36&e=f995a322e7 > > > >> The researchers note that the use of per diems to attract project > >> participation is certainly not the only obstacle to ICT4D > sustainability. > >> Other obstacles include: > >> > >> - Underdeveloped technology and support infrastructure. > >> - Technical bias of projects to focus on the technology vs. the users. > >> - Lack of alignment of interests between projects and users. > >> - Pilot project orientation, or ?pilotitis?. > >> > >> However, the researchers contend that per diem is a contributing factor > >> that has not received its fair share of attention, and per diem is a > >> complicating factor that may induce recipients to abstain from > critiquing > >> unsustainable interventions. > >> > >> But how to combat this issue when civil servants expect that their low > >> salary positions will be enhanced by workshops with monetary incentives > >> such as per diems, which are perceived as legitimate income? If ICT4D > >> practitioners don?t pay per diems, and others do, their projects may > seem > >> to have less user engagement and adoption, which would directly threaten > >> project sustainability in the short-term, much less the long term. > >> Two Possible Ways to Stop Paying Per Diems > >> > >> The researchers argue that on-the-job training is a viable option, > >> especially for refresher training. It allows for ICT4D practitioners to: > >> > >> - Perform a reality check on the intervention. > >> - Identify the right people for training. > >> - Become sensitive to participants? actual work practices. > >> - Learn how technology innovations may coexist with equipment and > >> routines already in place. > >> > >> Of course, on-site training can be more costly in time, effort, and > >> funding and sometimes it is unrealistic due to the sheer number of > >> potential users. However, the main barrier to adoption could be the > >> perception that it?s unfair because it cheats participants out of > >> ?legitimate? allowances. > >> > >> They say that another way to strengthen the capacity of local > institutions > >> is for donors to establish a shared pool of financial resources and > >> technical assistance that stretches beyond the lifespan of individual > >> projects in close collaboration with ministerial functionaries. This > >> resource pool would be utilized by ICT4D projects to cultivate public > >> sector structures that can implement policies and harmonize ICT4D > projects > >> over time. > >> What is Your Opinion? > >> > >> We can all agree that paying per diems creates false incentives for > ICT4D > >> project participation, and the practice should stop. But how to do it? > >> Should we focus on on-the-job training and shared local resource pools? > Or > >> is that a fool?s errand and we should do something else? If so, what? > >> > >> What has worked for you? What hasn?t? *Please tell us in the comments > >> < > http://ictworks.us4.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=84e9f392a668e74df589375c7&id=ee8d54a729&e=f995a322e7 > >* > >> . > >> Do You Agree? 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On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Hello, > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution > of Kenyans online. Read more here: > http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ > > ---- > > Kind regards, > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya > (BAKE) > > *T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 > 800927 > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, > wrote: > >> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >> Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >> 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >> From: Bobs >> To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >> NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >> Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Listers, >> >> This is for your information. Thanks. >> >> B. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> > From: Yaovi Atohoun >> > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >> > To: AfrICANN Community List >> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application >> Rounds Open for ICANN56 >> > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List >> > >> > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes >> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re >> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >> > >> > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in >> June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful >> candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please >> read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >> > >> > Merci/thanks >> > - >> > Yaovi Atohoun >> > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa >> > ICANN ? www.icann.org >> > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/02866a30/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 >> From: Grace Githaiga >> To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" >> Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Dear Listers >> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this >> last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the >> wishlist attached. >> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to >> ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree >> on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >> Have a great week. >> RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, >> Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.html >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx >> Type: >> application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document >> Size: 206459 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.bin >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf >> Type: application/pdf >> Size: 404276 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: < >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.pdf >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 >> ***************************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 26 09:27:46 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 09:27:46 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in > the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I > think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are > dealing with such bloggers. > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >> >> ---- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >> (BAKE) >> >> *T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 >> 800927 >> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >> >> >> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >> @cheekynoni >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, >> wrote: >> >>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >>> Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >>> 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >>> From: Bobs >>> To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >>> NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> This is for your information. Thanks. >>> >>> B. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> > From: Yaovi Atohoun >>> > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >>> > To: AfrICANN Community List >>> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application >>> Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List >>> > >>> > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes >>> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre >>> fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s >>> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re >>> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the >>> NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in >>> Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February >>> 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 >>> March 2016. Please read more at >>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> > Merci/thanks >>> > - >>> > Yaovi Atohoun >>> > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? 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URL: From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Tue Jan 26 10:37:08 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:37:08 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: <20160126051439.4894801.20016.9537@at.co.ke> References: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> <20160126051439.4894801.20016.9537@at.co.ke> Message-ID: On 26/01/2016, Waithaka Ngigi wrote: > Mwendwa, > > *IF* there's no such law, then there ought to be such a law. Ngigi, there was actually such a law that was passed in 2014 which the court ruled violated the constitution, and it was scrapped. -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh From ephraim at accessnow.org Tue Jan 26 10:48:30 2016 From: ephraim at accessnow.org (Ephraim Percy Kenyanito) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:48:30 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> <20160126051439.4894801.20016.9537@at.co.ke> Message-ID: Just to add. As I stated that free speech is not absolute. Under Article 33 (2) of Kenyas Constitution, "the right to freedom of expression does not extend to a) Propaganda for war; b) Incitement to violence; c) Hate speech; or d) Advocacy for hatred that ; (i) constitutes ethnic incitement, vilification of others or incitement to cause harm or (ii) based on any ground of discrimination as per Article 27." The Kenyan constitution complies with the customary 3 part test for free speech to be limited which is it only limited in circumstances which are: ((i) be provided by law, (ii) pursue a legitimate aim, and (iii) be necessary in a democratic society, in order to be permissible under Customary International Law. The contention with Section 29 of KICA Act is that it violates the second principle on "pursuing a legitimate aim" as it's very vague as generally, the law must be of ?sufficient precision to enable the citizen to regulate his conduct.? -- Best Regards, Ephraim Percy Kenyanito Sub-Saharan Africa Policy Analyst Access Now | accessnow.org tel: (+254)-786-191-930/ (+254)-751-804-120 @ekenyanito PGP: E6BA8DC1 Fingerprint: B0FA394AF73DEB7AA1FDC7360CFED26DE6BA8DC1 On 26 Jan 2016 10:38, "Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > On 26/01/2016, Waithaka Ngigi wrote: > > Mwendwa, > > > > *IF* there's no such law, then there ought to be such a law. > > Ngigi, there was actually such a law that was passed in 2014 which the > court ruled violated the constitution, and it was scrapped. > > -- > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ephraim%40accessnow.org > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From riva at article19.org Tue Jan 26 14:58:45 2016 From: riva at article19.org (riva at article19.org) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: <105219330.1703103.1453809424880.JavaMail.zimbra@article19.org> References: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> <20160126051439.4894801.20016.9537@at.co.ke> Message-ID: <277744831.1703794.1453809525962.JavaMail.zimbra@article19.org> Hi Waithaka, The MCK Act in Section 10 of the Second Schedule provides for Obscenity, taste and tone in reporting: (1) In general, persons subject to this Act shall not publish obscene or vulgar material unless such material contains a news. (2) Publication of photographs showing mutilated bodies, bloody incidents and abhorrent scenes shall be avoided unless the publication or broadcast of such photographs will serve the public interest. (3) Where possible an alert shall be issued to warn viewers or readers of the information being published. Regards, Riva From: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" To: riva at article19.org Cc: "Waithaka Ngigi" , info at mediadefence.org, "Jane Muthoni" , "Nani Jansen" , ddeya at lawyersofafrica.org, "Donald Deya" Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:14:39 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online Mwendwa, *IF* there's no such law, then there ought to be such a law. Waithaka Ngigi Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke From: Mwendwa Kivuva Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:17 AM To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Cc: Nani.Jansen at mediadefence.org; Jane Muthoni; Donald Deya; info at mediadefence.org; Waithaka Ngigi; ddeya at lawyersofafrica.org Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online On Jan 25, 2016 3:11 PM, "Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote: > > Hi, > > Would like to ask, but don't those laws have a role to play in limiting propagation of offensive media? > > If anyone is arrested for sharing on social media, grossly photos of our dead soldiers; soldiers who are our brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, sons & daughters?, then the fine and prison terms should be tripled from what they are as per the current law. Hi Ngigi, There is no such law. When when CORD, Article 19, and KNHRC challenged the constitutionality of the Security Laws Ammendment act 2014, the court ruled that it's unconstitutional to prosecute anybody for sharing photos, or any information that may jeopardise the security organ's operations. The media was urged to be responsible and self regulate, but it's not criminal to share such information. This one is done and dusted. There is no way a competent court in Kenya will prosecute anybody for sharing such information. Yesterday the police could not find grounds to prosecute Yasin Juma. The only provisions that stood in 2014 where those on surveillance; monitoring and interception of communication. The prohibition on the publication or broadcast of images of dead or injured people, which are ?likely to cause fear and alarm in the general public, or disturb the peace?, was disproportionate. The Court found that there was no rational connection between the limitation on publication and the fight against terrorism.The Court further agreed that the criminalisation of the publication or broadcast of information ?which undermines investigations or security operations? by the national police and defense forces would have a chilling effect on freedom of expression. The Court held that the effect of the prohibition would amount to ?a blanket ban on publication of any security-related information without consulting the National Police Service?. And Nkaiseri and his ilk should be prosecuted for mistreating and harassing Kenyans. We should not live in fear, nor play into the hands and strategies of the enemy, Alshabab. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/riva%40article19.org The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. 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The bloggers named in the article are not our members. ---- Kind regards, Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) *T: 0733522229, 0704090471* | *personal - *0720 800927 e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni wrote: > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in > the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I > think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are > dealing with such bloggers. > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >> >> ---- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >> (BAKE) >> >> *T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 >> 800927 >> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >> >> >> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >> @cheekynoni >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, >> wrote: >> >>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >>> Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >>> 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >>> From: Bobs >>> To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >>> NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> This is for your information. Thanks. >>> >>> B. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> > From: Yaovi Atohoun >>> > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >>> > To: AfrICANN Community List >>> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application >>> Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List >>> > >>> > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes >>> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre >>> fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s >>> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re >>> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the >>> NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in >>> Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February >>> 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 >>> March 2016. Please read more at >>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> > Merci/thanks >>> > - >>> > Yaovi Atohoun >>> > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa >>> > ICANN ? www.icann.org >>> > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/02866a30/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 >>> From: Grace Githaiga >>> To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" >>> Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Dear Listers >>> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail >>> this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the >>> wishlist attached. >>> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to >>> ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree >>> on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >>> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >>> Have a great week. >>> RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, >>> Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.html >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx >>> Type: >>> application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document >>> Size: 206459 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.bin >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf >>> Type: application/pdf >>> Size: 404276 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.pdf >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 >>> ***************************************** >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ngigi at at.co.ke Tue Jan 26 17:35:59 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Ngigi Waithaka) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:35:59 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: <277744831.1703794.1453809525962.JavaMail.zimbra@article19.org> References: <20160125121119.4894801.22981.9501@at.co.ke> <20160126051439.4894801.20016.9537@at.co.ke> <105219330.1703103.1453809424880.JavaMail.zimbra@article19.org> <277744831.1703794.1453809525962.JavaMail.zimbra@article19.org> Message-ID: Hi, And do those laws also apply to individuals or only to organisations affiliated to Media Council of Kenya? Rgds On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 2:58 PM, wrote: > Hi Waithaka, > > The MCK Act in Section 10 of the Second Schedule provides for Obscenity, > taste and tone in reporting: > > (1) In general, persons subject to this Act shall not publish obscene or > vulgar material unless such material contains a news. > (2) Publication of photographs showing mutilated bodies, bloody incidents > and abhorrent scenes shall be avoided unless the publication or broadcast > of such photographs will serve the public interest. > (3) Where possible an alert shall be issued to warn viewers or readers of > the information being published. > > Regards, > > Riva > ------------------------------ > *From: *"KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > *To: *riva at article19.org > *Cc: *"Waithaka Ngigi" , info at mediadefence.org, "Jane > Muthoni" , "Nani Jansen" , > ddeya at lawyersofafrica.org, "Donald Deya" > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:14:39 AM > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > Kenyans online > > Mwendwa, > > *IF* there's no such law, then there ought to be such a law. > > Waithaka Ngigi > > Alliance Technologies > www.at.co.ke > *From: *Mwendwa Kivuva > *Sent: *Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:17 AM > *To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > *Cc: *Nani.Jansen at mediadefence.org; Jane Muthoni; Donald Deya; > info at mediadefence.org; Waithaka Ngigi; ddeya at lawyersofafrica.org > *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > Kenyans online > > > On Jan 25, 2016 3:11 PM, "Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Would like to ask, but don't those laws have a role to play in limiting > propagation of offensive media? > > > > If anyone is arrested for sharing on social media, grossly photos of our > dead soldiers; soldiers who are our brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, > sons & daughters?, then the fine and prison terms should be tripled from > what they are as per the current law. > > Hi Ngigi, > > There is no such law. > > When when CORD, Article 19, and KNHRC challenged the constitutionality of > the Security Laws Ammendment act 2014, the court ruled that it's > unconstitutional to prosecute anybody for sharing photos, or any > information that may jeopardise the security organ's operations. The media > was urged to be responsible and self regulate, but it's not criminal to > share such information. This one is done and dusted. There is no way a > competent court in Kenya will prosecute anybody for sharing such > information. Yesterday the police could not find grounds to prosecute Yasin > Juma. > > The only provisions that stood in 2014 where those on surveillance; > monitoring and interception of communication. > > The prohibition on the publication or broadcast of images of dead or > injured people, which are ?likely to cause fear and alarm in the general > public, or disturb the peace?, was disproportionate. The Court found that > there was no rational connection between the limitation on publication and > the fight against terrorism.The Court further agreed that the > criminalisation of the publication or broadcast of information ?which > undermines investigations or security operations? by the national police > and defense forces would have a chilling effect on freedom of expression. > The Court held that the effect of the prohibition would amount to ?a > blanket ban on publication of any security-related information without > consulting the National Police Service?. > > And Nkaiseri and his ilk should be prosecuted for mistreating and > harassing Kenyans. We should not live in fear, nor play into the hands and > strategies of the enemy, Alshabab. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/riva%40article19.org > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From dmuthoni at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 17:39:44 2016 From: dmuthoni at gmail.com (Dorcas Muthoni) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ali, No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. Best, Muthoni Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in > the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I > think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are > dealing with such bloggers. > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >> prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: >> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >> >> ---- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >> (BAKE) >> >> *T: 0733522229 <0733522229>, 0704090471 <0704090471>* | *personal - *0720 >> 800927 >> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >> >> >> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: >> @cheekynoni >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, >> wrote: >> >>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >>> Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >>> 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >>> From: Bobs >>> To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >>> NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Listers, >>> >>> This is for your information. Thanks. >>> >>> B. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> > From: Yaovi Atohoun >>> > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >>> > To: AfrICANN Community List >>> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application >>> Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List >>> > >>> > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes >>> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre >>> fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s >>> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re >>> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the >>> NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in >>> Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February >>> 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 >>> March 2016. Please read more at >>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>> > >>> > Merci/thanks >>> > - >>> > Yaovi Atohoun >>> > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa >>> > ICANN ? www.icann.org >>> > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 >>> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/02866a30/attachment-0001.html >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 >>> From: Grace Githaiga >>> To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" >>> Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Dear Listers >>> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail >>> this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the >>> wishlist attached. >>> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to >>> ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree >>> on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >>> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >>> Have a great week. >>> RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, >>> Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.html >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx >>> Type: >>> application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document >>> Size: 206459 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.bin >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf >>> Type: application/pdf >>> Size: 404276 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: < >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.pdf >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 >>> ***************************************** >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 26 18:48:40 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:48:40 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2BCAD621-A42E-48FD-B58A-EF62F6990796@hussein.me.ke> Dorcas That I definitely agree and support. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 26 Jan 2016, at 5:39 PM, Dorcas Muthoni wrote: > > Hi Ali, > > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. > > Best, Muthoni > > Dorcas > > With all due respect. > > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. > > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association. > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. > >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: >> But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. >> >>> On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) >>> >>> T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 >>> e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >>> >>> skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni >>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, wrote: >>>> Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >>>> Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >>>> 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >>>> From: Bobs >>>> To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >>>> NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>>> Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>>> >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> This is for your information. Thanks. >>>> >>>> B. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>> > From: Yaovi Atohoun >>>> > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 >>>> > To: AfrICANN Community List >>>> > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>>> > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List >>>> > >>>> > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>>> > >>>> > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en >>>> > >>>> > Merci/thanks >>>> > - >>>> > Yaovi Atohoun >>>> > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa >>>> > ICANN ? www.icann.org >>>> > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 >>>> From: Grace Githaiga >>>> To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" >>>> Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni >>>> Message-ID: >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> Dear Listers >>>> This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the wishlist attached. >>>> It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. >>>> We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. >>>> Have a great week. >>>> RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx >>>> Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document >>>> Size: 206459 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf >>>> Type: application/pdf >>>> Size: 404276 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Subject: Digest Footer >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> kictanet mailing list >>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 >>>> ***************************************** >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Tue Jan 26 20:49:41 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:49:41 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: , , , Message-ID: @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a balance? #Just asking. Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: dmuthoni at gmail.com; muthoni at bake.or.ke; kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com Hi Ali, No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. Best, Muthoni Dorcas With all due respect. That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association.Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates Tel: +254 713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" wrote: Hello, This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/---- Kind regards, Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 From: Bobs To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Listers, This is for your information. Thanks. B. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Yaovi Atohoun > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > To: AfrICANN Community List > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > Merci/thanks > - > Yaovi Atohoun > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > ICANN ? www.icann.org > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 From: Grace Githaiga To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Listers This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the wishlist attached. It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Tue Jan 26 21:06:49 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:06:49 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free Message-ID: For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and Onavo. Very interesting. Memorable quote: ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a principle in the National Broadband Strategy... http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Tue Jan 26 22:27:50 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:27:50 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Nanjira. At least now we have a techsavy CS, probably we will see some positive change in this debate that has dragged for years in this list. Regards On 26/01/2016, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet wrote: > For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and > Onavo. Very interesting. > > Memorable quote: > > ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a > country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market > strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public > policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." > > What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a > principle in the National Broadband Strategy... > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh The best athletes never started as the best athletes. "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 26 22:39:15 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:39:15 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Grace We definitely need to find a balance. The answer however is not to blanket condemn bloggers/Journalists. As Voltaire, the French Philosopher, once said:- ' I may not like what you say, but I will defend your right to say it' We must be guided by our constitution whenever we are in doubt. And that constitution is clear about such things. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:49 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > > @Ali > Does free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a balance? #Just asking. > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > CC: dmuthoni at gmail.com; muthoni at bake.or.ke; kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > Hi Ali, > > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all bloggers. > > Best, Muthoni > > Dorcas > > With all due respect. > > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. > > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free speech and association. > > Ali Hussein > > Principal > > Hussein & Associates > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote: > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with such bloggers. > > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" wrote: > Hello, > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution of Kenyans online. Read more here: http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/ > > ---- > > Kind regards, > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) > > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 > From: Bobs > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and > NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Listers, > > This is for your information. Thanks. > > B. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Yaovi Atohoun > > Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > > To: AfrICANN Community List > > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > > > > FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March 2016. Please read more at https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > Merci/thanks > > - > > Yaovi Atohoun > > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > > ICANN ? www.icann.org > > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 > From: Grace Githaiga > To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" > Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Listers > This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the wishlist attached. > It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to ask questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. > We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. > Have a great week. > RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, Walu and Ali) > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx > Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > Size: 206459 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 404276 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > ------------------------------ > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 > ***************************************** > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Tue Jan 26 22:42:33 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:42:33 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23B5B700-A10A-4ED9-9667-74DCBB2FFCB9@hussein.me.ke> Indeed. Thanks Nanjira for sharing. I'm keen to have a one on one with Facebook guys who are in town..:-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 26 Jan 2016, at 10:27 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote: > > Thanks Nanjira. > > At least now we have a techsavy CS, probably we will see some positive > change in this debate that has dragged for years in this list. > > Regards > > On 26/01/2016, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > wrote: >> For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and >> Onavo. Very interesting. >> >> Memorable quote: >> >> ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a >> country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market >> strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public >> policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." >> >> What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a >> principle in the National Broadband Strategy... >> >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Nanjira. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for >> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > -- > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > The best athletes never started as the best athletes. > "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. > I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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I'm keen to have a one on one with Facebook guys who are in town..:-) > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > Skype: abu-jomo > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 26 Jan 2016, at 10:27 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > wrote: > >> Thanks Nanjira. >> >> At least now we have a techsavy CS, probably we will see some positive >> change in this debate that has dragged for years in this list. >> >> Regards >> >> On 26/01/2016, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet >> > wrote: >>> For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and >>> Onavo. Very interesting. >>> >>> Memorable quote: >>> >>> ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a >>> country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market >>> strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public >>> policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." >>> >>> What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a >>> principle in the National Broadband Strategy... >>> >>> http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nanjira. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for >>> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >>> development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> >> -- >> ______________________ >> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya >> twitter.com/lordmwesh >> >> The best athletes never started as the best athletes. >> "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. >> I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. Regards, Nanjira Sambuli Research Lead iHub | Research | UXLab | Consulting Mobile: +254722481566 Skype: nanjirasambuli | Twitter: @NiNanjira -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature_line.gif Type: image/gif Size: 947 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best, Ebele [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN ebeleokobi at fb.com From: kictanet > on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 7:42 PM To: Ebele Okobi > Cc: Ali Hussein >, Nanjira Sambuli > Subject: Re: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free Indeed. Thanks Nanjira for sharing. I'm keen to have a one on one with Facebook guys who are in town..:-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad On 26 Jan 2016, at 10:27 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > wrote: Thanks Nanjira. At least now we have a techsavy CS, probably we will see some positive change in this debate that has dragged for years in this list. Regards On 26/01/2016, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > wrote: For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and Onavo. Very interesting. Memorable quote: ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a principle in the National Broadband Strategy... http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh The best athletes never started as the best athletes. "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote: > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a > balance? #Just asking. > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > Kenyans online > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > CC: dmuthoni at gmail.com; muthoni at bake.or.ke; kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > Hi Ali, > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all > bloggers. > Best, Muthoni > Dorcas > With all due respect. > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These bad > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be careful we > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free > speech and association.Ali > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations > that I work with. > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > wrote: > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in the > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I think > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing with > such bloggers. > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" > wrote: > Hello, > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and prosecution > of Kenyans online. Read more here: > http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/---- > > Kind regards, > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) > > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, > wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN > > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) > > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 > > From: Bobs > > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and > > NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Listers, > > > > This is for your information. Thanks. > > > > B. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > >> From: Yaovi Atohoun > >> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > >> To: AfrICANN Community List > >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application >> Rounds Open for ICANN56 > >> Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > >> > >> FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes >> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre fin >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re >> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > >> > >> ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama >> in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and >> successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March >> 2016. Please read more at >> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > >> > >> Merci/thanks > >> - > >> Yaovi Atohoun > >> Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? 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The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh The best athletes never started as the best athletes. "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Tue Jan 26 23:08:51 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:08:51 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free In-Reply-To: References: <23B5B700-A10A-4ED9-9667-74DCBB2FFCB9@hussein.me.ke> Message-ID: Looking forwad to the Policy engagement sessions. Regards
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On 1/26/16, Ebele Okobi via kictanet wrote: > Yes! > My colleagues who focus on developer engagement will be in Nairobi this > week, at a series of events/conversations. They aren?t, however, the best > contacts for policy questions-that?s still me and Akua (I know. . .you?re > sick of me already. . .). > We are elated to note that we will be in Nairobi the week of the 8th, and we > will be, among other things, hosting an in-person conversation with > policy-Grace will be charged with helping us with invites. We look forward > to seeing you in person! > Best, Ebele > [Description: Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01C8F888.8FCCE630] > > Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa > m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 > 2 Stephen St | London | W1T 1AN > ebeleokobi at fb.com > > > > From: kictanet > > > on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet > > > Reply-To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > > > Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 7:42 PM > To: Ebele Okobi > > Cc: Ali Hussein >, Nanjira > Sambuli > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet > Away For Free > > Indeed. > > Thanks Nanjira for sharing. I'm keen to have a one on one with Facebook guys > who are in town..:-) > > Ali Hussein > Principal > Hussein & Associates > +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: > http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > Blog: > www.alyhussein.com > > "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what > no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi > > Sent from my iPad > > On 26 Jan 2016, at 10:27 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet > > > wrote: > > Thanks Nanjira. > > At least now we have a techsavy CS, probably we will see some positive > change in this debate that has dragged for years in this list. > > Regards > > On 26/01/2016, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > > > wrote: > For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and > Onavo. Very interesting. > > Memorable quote: > > ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in > a > country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market > strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public > policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." > > What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a > principle in the National Broadband Strategy... > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > The best athletes never started as the best athletes. > "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. > I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and > development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254733206359 Skype: barrack.otieno From Kivuva at transworldafrica.com Tue Jan 26 23:12:29 2016 From: Kivuva at transworldafrica.com (Mwendwa Kivuva) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:12:29 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Of late, FB has come out strongly stating Freebasics is for the public good rather than a product for market dominance and profitability. The only problem with that is it presume the rest of humanity as not being very clever. And that has brought them a lot of problems. Philanthrocapitalism Isn?t a Great Marketing Term Internet.org was born of growth initiatives, and it never lost that DNA. From its launch through today, the program has never been entirely about business or about altruism, but rather a convenient if sometimes uncomfortable marriage of the two. Zuckerberg captured the awkwardness beautifully in a quote published in the New York Times the day of its Aug. 20 launch: ?We?re focused on it more because we think it?s something good for the world,? he said, ?rather than something that is going to be really amazing for our profits.? Facebook employees consistently employ this tone, pushing the altruistic aspects of Internet.org while tacitly acknowledging the business benefits, when asked about the program?s business goals. ?My mission is to connect people,? Munish Seth, who heads Facebook?s connectivity efforts in India, told the New York Times in a story about Express Wi-Fi. ?We hope they will connect to Facebook, but that?s not the primary mission,? he said. Playing up altruism while playing down profit motives soon became a point of discontent among some people in the regions where Internet.org operates. Facebook, they argue, is trying to win support for a business effort by passing it off as something charitable. ?That?s how Facebook is positioning it every single day in its advertising campaigns across India ? that it?s a philanthropic venture ? whereas it?s not a nonprofit,? Nikhil Pahwa, co-founder of Savetheinternet.in, a group opposed to Internet.org, told BuzzFeed News in an interview. ?It?s a business venture, through and through.? At times, the efforts have bordered on brazen. Carolina Botero, CEO of the Karisma Foundation, a Colombian digital rights organization, said Internet.org has been positioned within Colombia as a public policy initiative, getting endorsed as such by the country?s top government officials. ?You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a country,? she said. ?If it?s going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public policies, it?s a whole world that opens that is not good.? A Facebook spokesperson said that while Colombian government services were included in the country?s version of Free Basics, and Mark Zuckerberg did indeed appear with Colombia?s president, Facebook itself never pitched Internet.org as a public policy solution. Asked if Facebook?s positioning of the program may have caused it problems, Facebook?s Daniels rejected the notion. ?I think it?s good for Facebook and good for the world. And whether we should have led with one or the other ? or whether your perception is that we led with one or the other ? is neither here nor there,? he argued. ?The result of bringing more people online is good for the world,? Daniels continued. ?More ideas are shared. It?s good for the entire internet ecosystem. Once people come online they discover and seek more services that they can use online. And it is also good for Facebook, there?s no question about that. When more people come online, those are more potential Facebook users. I don?t think we?ve shied away from the fact that this is going to be good for Facebook, but I also don?t think that we should be shying away from the fact that it?s going to be good for the world as well, to bring more people online.? On 26/01/2016, Mwendwa Kivuva wrote: > Thanks Nanjira. > > At least now we have a techsavy CS, probably we will see some positive > change in this debate that has dragged for years in this list. > > Regards > > On 26/01/2016, Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > wrote: >> For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu >> and >> Onavo. Very interesting. >> >> Memorable quote: >> >> ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in >> a >> country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market >> strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public >> policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." >> >> What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a >> principle in the National Broadband Strategy... >> >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Nanjira. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/kivuva%40transworldafrica.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for >> people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and >> development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and >> bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > -- > ______________________ > Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya > twitter.com/lordmwesh > > The best athletes never started as the best athletes. > "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. > I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. > -- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh The best athletes never started as the best athletes. "You miss 100 percent of the shots you never take." - Wayne Gretzky. I will persist until I succeed - Og Mandino. From ngigi at at.co.ke Tue Jan 26 23:17:06 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Ngigi Waithaka) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:17:06 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mwendwa, I get and understand your PoV. But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to spread the same fear. Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse of the laws. Rgds On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Yes GG, > > And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of > the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other > legislation which seek to balance these rights. > > But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who > want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in > timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms > when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, > and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if > we do that, it will only be an illusion. > > On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > wrote: > > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that online > > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find a > > balance? #Just asking. > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > > Kenyans online > > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > CC: dmuthoni at gmail.com; muthoni at bake.or.ke; > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > > > Hi Ali, > > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to > > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all > > bloggers. > > Best, Muthoni > > Dorcas > > With all due respect. > > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of the > > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These > bad > > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of yesteryears. > > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with someone > > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be > careful we > > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. > > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle free > > speech and association.Ali > > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > > > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > mine > > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > organizations > > that I work with. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > > wrote: > > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done in > the > > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I > think > > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing > with > > such bloggers. > > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" > > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and > prosecution > > of Kenyans online. Read more here: > > > http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/---- > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya > (BAKE) > > > > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 > > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, < > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > wrote: > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > > > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN > > > > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) > > > > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 > > > > From: Bobs > > > > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and > > > > NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > > > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > Listers, > > > > > > > > This is for your information. Thanks. > > > > > > > > B. > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > >> From: Yaovi Atohoun > > > >> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > > > >> To: AfrICANN Community List > > > >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application > >> Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > > >> Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > > > >> > > > >> FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes > >> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre > fin > >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront publi?s > >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re > >> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > >> > > > >> ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the NextGen at ICANN > >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, Panama > >> in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and > >> successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March > >> 2016. Please read more at > >> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > >> > > > >> Merci/thanks > > > >> - > > > >> Yaovi Atohoun > > > >> Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > > > >> ICANN ? www.icann.org > > > >> Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: > > < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/02866a30/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 > > > > From: Grace Githaiga > > > > To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" > > > > Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni > > > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > Dear Listers > > > > This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail this > > last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the > wishlist > > attached. > > > > It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to > ask > > questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree on > > how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. > > > > We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. > > > > Have a great week. > > > > RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, > Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, > > Walu and Ali) > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: > > < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.html > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx > > > > Type: > > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > > > > Size: 206459 bytes > > > > Desc: not available > > > > URL: > > < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.bin > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf > > > > Type: application/pdf > > > > Size: 404276 bytes > > > > Desc: not available > > > > URL: > > < > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.pdf > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 > > > > ***************************************** > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for > > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > > regulation. 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Sent from my iPhone. > On 27 Jan 2016, at 07:42, Nanjira Sambuli wrote: > > A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's #First100Days fete. > > > ---- > Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > // AllAfrica News: Kenya > > [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet.) > ---- > > Shared via my feedly reader > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 27 07:50:38 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 07:50:38 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> References: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: Nanjira The word 'vent' is Walu's way of grabbing our attention. :-) Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113 On Jan 27, 2016 7:42 AM, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's > #First100Days fete. > > > ---- > *Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > * > // *AllAfrica News: Kenya > * > > [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was > kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. > Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network > (KICTANet.) > ---- > > Shared via *my feedly reader * > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From blongwe at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 09:00:08 2016 From: blongwe at gmail.com (Brian Munyao Longwe) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 08:00:08 +0200 Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: References: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: Seems Walu has started being affected by the media's propensity for sensationalism - chief, choose your camp! :D Mblayo On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Nanjira > > The word 'vent' is Walu's way of grabbing our attention. :-) > > Ali Hussein > Tel: +254 713 601113 > On Jan 27, 2016 7:42 AM, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's >> #First100Days fete. >> >> >> ---- >> *Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru >> * >> // *AllAfrica News: Kenya >> * >> >> [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, >> was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and >> Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action >> Network (KICTANet.) >> ---- >> >> Shared via *my feedly reader * >> >> >> >> Regards, >> Nanjira. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwalu at yahoo.com Wed Jan 27 09:01:07 2016 From: jwalu at yahoo.com (Walubengo J) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 06:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> References: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: <1676140008.908631.1453874467599.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Let me just say...my Editor has a wide range ?of vocabulary ?:-) But focus on the content. walu. From: Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet To: jwalu at yahoo.com Cc: Nanjira Sambuli Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:42 AM Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's #First100Days fete.? ---- Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru // AllAfrica News: Kenya [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet.) ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards,?Nanjira. Sent from my iPhone. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rlukalo at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 09:06:28 2016 From: rlukalo at gmail.com (Rose Lukalo -Owino) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:06:28 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: References: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> Message-ID: The writer/ reporter is never responsible for the headline - that's the sub-editors job. What is wrong with using the verb to vent? Using the following definitions - verb (used with object) ............... to give free play or expression to (an emotion, passion, etc.): ............... to give public utterance to: e.g. to vent one's opinions. ............... to relieve by giving expression to something: On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Seems Walu has started being affected by the media's propensity for > sensationalism - chief, choose your camp! :D > > Mblayo > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Nanjira >> >> The word 'vent' is Walu's way of grabbing our attention. :-) >> >> Ali Hussein >> Tel: +254 713 601113 >> On Jan 27, 2016 7:42 AM, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's >>> #First100Days fete. >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> *Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru >>> * >>> // *AllAfrica News: Kenya >>> * >>> >>> [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, >>> was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and >>> Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action >>> Network (KICTANet.) >>> ---- >>> >>> Shared via *my feedly reader * >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nanjira. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/rlukalo%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Wed Jan 27 09:44:57 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:44:57 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: <1676140008.908631.1453874467599.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> <1676140008.908631.1453874467599.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8827DB23-D2F7-4C9B-97DF-FFD7C576181B@ihub.co.ke> He/she is setting you up, jowa. Good piece, choice of verbs notwithstanding. :) Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPad. > On 27 Jan 2016, at 09:01, Walubengo J wrote: > > Let me just say...my Editor has a wide range of vocabulary :-) > > But focus on the content. > > walu. > > > > From: Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > To: jwalu at yahoo.com > Cc: Nanjira Sambuli > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:42 AM > Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > > A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's #First100Days fete. > > > ---- > Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > // AllAfrica News: Kenya > > [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet.) > ---- > > Shared via my feedly reader > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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URL: From nanjira at ihub.co.ke Wed Jan 27 09:49:37 2016 From: nanjira at ihub.co.ke (Nanjira Sambuli) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:49:37 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: <1676140008.908631.1453874467599.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2C4F509D-2540-497E-A69B-3A86A8EE37FA@ihub.co.ke> <1676140008.908631.1453874467599.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B5C8AEA-A42C-4C7C-A471-B8704E9ABFA9@ihub.co.ke> Rose, the dictionary definition notwithstanding, it's a verb associated with noise-making, and especially from civil society actors. One of those verbs whose original meaning is contextualised and anchored in biases. I'm ever curious about framings, and we've found from Research that headlines impact perceptions and reactions, sometimes even more than content itself. Hence my curiosity :) Regards, Nanjira. Sent from my iPad. > On 27 Jan 2016, at 09:01, Walubengo J wrote: > > Let me just say...my Editor has a wide range of vocabulary :-) > > But focus on the content. > > walu. > > > > From: Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet > To: jwalu at yahoo.com > Cc: Nanjira Sambuli > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:42 AM > Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > > A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's #First100Days fete. > > > ---- > Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > // AllAfrica News: Kenya > > [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet.) > ---- > > Shared via my feedly reader > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ggithaiga at hotmail.com Wed Jan 27 10:19:50 2016 From: ggithaiga at hotmail.com (Grace Githaiga) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 07:19:50 +0000 Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Nanjira for this. Quite informative! I didn't realize this has been the journey. Wah!RgdsG > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:06:49 +0300 > Subject: [kictanet] How Facebook Stumbled On Its Quest to Give Internet Away For Free > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > CC: nanjira at ihub.co.ke > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > For those still keen on this issue. Goes back to acquisitions of Snaptu and Onavo. Very interesting. > > Memorable quote: > > ""You cannot present a marketing strategy as an important public policy in a country. If it's going to be a market strategy, then do it as a market strategy and we can deal with that. But when you mix it with the public policies, it's a whole world that opens that is not good." > > What shall it be, for Kenya? Btw, technology neutrality is listed as a principle in the National Broadband Strategy... > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexkantrowitz/how-facebooks-plan-to-give-the-world-free-mobile-internet-we#.kcxE7w225 > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. 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URL: From jwalu at yahoo.com Wed Jan 27 12:47:19 2016 From: jwalu at yahoo.com (Walubengo J) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <454417003.883618.1453888039479.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> @Mblayo, I learnt from non other than Ezekiel Mutua last friday - that I can always claim I was misquoted :-) But like I said, focus on the content, not just the headlines. ?Better still get the original story @ http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/3049162/-/lnhwvcz/-/index.html walu. From: Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet To: jwalu at yahoo.com Cc: Brian Munyao Longwe Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru Seems Walu has started being affected by the media's propensity for sensationalism - chief, choose your camp! :D Mblayo On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote: NanjiraThe word 'vent' is Walu's way of grabbing our attention. :-)Ali Hussein Tel: +254 713 601113On Jan 27, 2016 7:42 AM, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" wrote: A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's #First100Days fete.? ---- Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru // AllAfrica News: Kenya [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet.) ---- Shared via my feedly reader Regards,?Nanjira. 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Their proposal: Regulate the providers just like the telcos are to equal the playing field. The OTT providers: Google (Hangouts) Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp) and Microsoft (Skype) countered these claims: Google said they pay taxes to the SA government (this is not even a matter of opinion. It is either they pay or not), Facebook pointed to the symbiotic relationship that exists between them and the Telcos seeing the data consumed while using the OTTs is clearly revenue for the telcos. On security, FB gains revenue from advertisement, not selling user data. Microsoft: Skype helps minimize communication costs for consumers. Innovators and new entrants to the market benefit more by using these services than the companies do in revenue from Skype, WhatsApp and such. Data segments in the Telcos are the fastest growing revenue bases. They should thank the OTTs for this. The Consumer: I would love to hear what consumer groups in SA had to say to the Parliamentary committee, if they were there in the first place. Clearly OTTs have slashed communication prices which ISPs have for long managed. Now that 'the times are a changing? it is quite immoral, I dare say, for the telcos to lobby regulators help them deal with lost revenue (I prefer missed innovation). It is more like car makers asking fuel companies to compensate them since they are making profits from their products. It doesn?t work like that. Unfortunately, we this battle is seen as ISPs versus the OTT providers and not between Consumers and ISPs, the regulators might just forget who they are out to protect. Morocco suspended VOIP this month on this principle, Rwanda is thinking along those lines. Kenyan Telcos are thinking about it. We are in for a real show. For more info: http://ewn.co.za/2016/01/26/Parly-cautioned-against-regulating-OTT-services --- Moses Karanja | @Mose_Karanja | PGP: 0x1529552F -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: From ngigi at at.co.ke Wed Jan 27 13:34:27 2016 From: ngigi at at.co.ke (Ngigi Waithaka) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 13:34:27 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Emmanuel, No need being dramatic.... No one is suggesting anyone rights to be taken away, but I *insist* that should cut both ways... So on the same vein we cannot keep quiet when some people are sharing gory pictures of our dead heroes without due consideration of their loved ones, and neither should you, BAKE et.al... Rgds On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Emmanuel Khisa wrote: > So let's just give away these rights...Who needs freedom to express > themselves...Whenever we argue to handcuff ourselves back into a bottled > society where KBC is the only channel that provides the story or when we > don't like a certain politician and therefore feel that we need to hush his > sentiments we lose big time as a society in the end. We always need to > remember that politicians come and go and worse yet they are mortals...If > we make laws to target our support or opposition to certain political > view-points we lose terribly in the end for tomorrow an Idi Amin will be in > power and he will eat your lunch and not even one person will have courage > to stand up for it... > > I am always reminded of Martin Niem?ller's immortal words: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *When the Nazis came for the communists, I remained silent; I was not a > communist. When they locked up the social democrats, I remained silent; I > was not a social democrat. When they came for the trade unionists, I did > not speak out; I was not a trade unionist. When they came for the Jews, I > remained silent; I wasn't a Jew. When they came for nurses and teachers and > doctors* > *I remained silent* > *I wasn't one of them (My Addition)* > > *,When they came for the ICT Practitioners, (My Addition) * > *there was no one left to speak out.* > > > Have a freedom filled day...In all things exercise moderation. > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> Mwendwa, >> >> I get and understand your PoV. >> >> But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also >> misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to >> spread the same fear. >> >> Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse >> of the laws. >> >> Rgds >> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >> >>> Yes GG, >>> >>> And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of >>> the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other >>> legislation which seek to balance these rights. >>> >>> But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who >>> want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in >>> timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms >>> when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, >>> and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if >>> we do that, it will only be an illusion. >>> >>> On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet >>> wrote: >>> > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that >>> online >>> > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find >>> a >>> > balance? #Just asking. >>> > >>> > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 >>> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of >>> > Kenyans online >>> > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > CC: dmuthoni at gmail.com; muthoni at bake.or.ke; >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com >>> > >>> > Hi Ali, >>> > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to >>> > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all >>> > bloggers. >>> > Best, Muthoni >>> > Dorcas >>> > With all due respect. >>> > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of >>> the >>> > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These >>> bad >>> > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of >>> yesteryears. >>> > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with >>> someone >>> > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be >>> careful we >>> > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. >>> > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle >>> free >>> > speech and association.Ali >>> > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates >>> > >>> > Tel: +254 713 601113 >>> > Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> > >>> > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> > >>> > Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>> > >>> > >>> > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are >>> purely mine >>> > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the >>> organizations >>> > that I work with. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet >>> > wrote: >>> > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done >>> in the >>> > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I >>> think >>> > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing >>> with >>> > such bloggers. >>> > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" >>> > wrote: >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and >>> prosecution >>> > of Kenyans online. Read more here: >>> > >>> http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/---- >>> > >>> > Kind regards, >>> > >>> > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya >>> (BAKE) >>> > >>> > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 >>> > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke >>> > >>> > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, < >>> kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke> >>> > wrote: >>> > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to >>> > >>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> > >>> > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> > >>> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> > >>> > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > You can reach the person managing the list at >>> > >>> > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> > >>> > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Today's Topics: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN >>> > >>> > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) >>> > >>> > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Message: 1 >>> > >>> > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 >>> > >>> > From: Bobs >>> > >>> > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> > >>> > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and >>> > >>> > NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 >>> > >>> > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> >>> > >>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Listers, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > This is for your information. 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URL: From otieno.barrack at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 15:53:10 2016 From: otieno.barrack at gmail.com (Barrack Otieno) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:53:10 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] OTT Regulation: The Empire Strikes Back In-Reply-To: <6837C590-CF08-45F4-BA13-6875FDAE6F34@gmail.com> References: <6837C590-CF08-45F4-BA13-6875FDAE6F34@gmail.com> Message-ID: Interesting developements Mose. At the end of the day we should not punish innovation. Regards On Jan 27, 2016 1:21 PM, "Mose Karanja via kictanet" < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > *South Africa - 26 Jan.* > The Portfolio Committee on Telecommunications and Postal Services > organised a public briefing on the Over-The-Top (OTT) policy and > regulatory options. > *Internet Connection Providers* (MTN, Vodafone?.) claim OTT services > don?t contribute financially to the local networks, don?t pay taxes, are > not focused on consumer security. Their proposal: Regulate the providers > just like the telcos are to equal the playing field. > > *The OTT providers: *Google (Hangouts) Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp) and > Microsoft (Skype) countered these claims: Google said they pay taxes to the > SA government (this is not even a matter of opinion. It is either they pay > or not), Facebook pointed to the symbiotic relationship that exists between > them and the Telcos seeing the data consumed while using the OTTs is > clearly revenue for the telcos. On security, FB gains revenue from > advertisement, not selling user data. Microsoft: Skype helps minimize > communication costs for consumers. Innovators and new entrants to the > market benefit more by using these services than the companies do in > revenue from Skype, WhatsApp and such. Data segments in the Telcos are the > fastest growing revenue bases. They should thank the OTTs for this. > > *The Consumer*: I would love to hear what consumer groups in SA had to > say to the Parliamentary committee, if they were there in the first > place. > > Clearly OTTs have slashed communication prices which ISPs have for long > managed. Now that 'the times are a changing? it is quite immoral, I dare > say, for the telcos to lobby regulators help them deal with lost revenue (I > prefer missed innovation). > It is more like car makers asking fuel companies to compensate them since > they are making profits from their products. It doesn?t work like that. > Unfortunately, we this battle is seen as ISPs versus the OTT providers and > not between Consumers and ISPs, the regulators might just forget who they > are out to protect. > > Morocco suspended VOIP this month on this principle, Rwanda is thinking > along those lines. Kenyan Telcos are thinking about it. We are in for a > real show. > > For more info: > http://ewn.co.za/2016/01/26/Parly-cautioned-against-regulating-OTT-services > > > > --- > Moses Karanja | @Mose_Karanja | PGP: > 0x1529552F > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ultimateprogramer at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 17:13:48 2016 From: ultimateprogramer at gmail.com (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 17:13:48 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] OTT Regulation: The Empire Strikes Back In-Reply-To: References: <6837C590-CF08-45F4-BA13-6875FDAE6F34@gmail.com> Message-ID: You just can not stop innovation. You either work with it or against it. The Data Driven Revolution is here. The fact of the matter is OTA or no OTA. People did not call on cellular networks because of cost. They call when they need to, and its the same case - nothing has changed. Reducing OTA does not mean everyone will call more. It means they will continue calling the same way they did. If any of you have used OTA you may notice just how lousy the call quality is, issues ranging from call delay, call break ups, etc. Wise are those who will embrace the "data revolution". As did those who were the early adropters of the "mobile revolution". Our local telephone service provider was just not up to the game with the rising development of Mobile Telephony. Who is to say history won't repeat itself? On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > Interesting developements Mose. At the end of the day we should not punish > innovation. > > Regards > On Jan 27, 2016 1:21 PM, "Mose Karanja via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > >> *South Africa - 26 Jan.* >> The Portfolio Committee on Telecommunications and Postal Services >> organised a public briefing on the Over-The-Top (OTT) policy and >> regulatory options. >> *Internet Connection Providers* (MTN, Vodafone?.) claim OTT services >> don?t contribute financially to the local networks, don?t pay taxes, are >> not focused on consumer security. Their proposal: Regulate the providers >> just like the telcos are to equal the playing field. >> >> *The OTT providers: *Google (Hangouts) Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp) >> and Microsoft (Skype) countered these claims: Google said they pay taxes to >> the SA government (this is not even a matter of opinion. It is either they >> pay or not), Facebook pointed to the symbiotic relationship that exists >> between them and the Telcos seeing the data consumed while using the OTTs >> is clearly revenue for the telcos. On security, FB gains revenue from >> advertisement, not selling user data. Microsoft: Skype helps minimize >> communication costs for consumers. Innovators and new entrants to the >> market benefit more by using these services than the companies do in >> revenue from Skype, WhatsApp and such. Data segments in the Telcos are the >> fastest growing revenue bases. They should thank the OTTs for this. >> >> *The Consumer*: I would love to hear what consumer groups in SA had to >> say to the Parliamentary committee, if they were there in the first >> place. >> >> Clearly OTTs have slashed communication prices which ISPs have for long >> managed. Now that 'the times are a changing? it is quite immoral, I dare >> say, for the telcos to lobby regulators help them deal with lost revenue (I >> prefer missed innovation). >> It is more like car makers asking fuel companies to compensate them since >> they are making profits from their products. It doesn?t work like that. >> Unfortunately, we this battle is seen as ISPs versus the OTT providers and >> not between Consumers and ISPs, the regulators might just forget who they >> are out to protect. >> >> Morocco suspended VOIP this month on this principle, Rwanda is thinking >> along those lines. Kenyan Telcos are thinking about it. We are in for a >> real show. >> >> For more info: >> http://ewn.co.za/2016/01/26/Parly-cautioned-against-regulating-OTT-services >> >> >> >> --- >> Moses Karanja | @Mose_Karanja | PGP: >> 0x1529552F >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. 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URL: From ali at hussein.me.ke Wed Jan 27 18:24:16 2016 From: ali at hussein.me.ke (Ali Hussein) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:24:16 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] OTT Regulation: The Empire Strikes Back In-Reply-To: References: <6837C590-CF08-45F4-BA13-6875FDAE6F34@gmail.com> Message-ID: <17186E54-4B06-4A7B-A530-FED1719FF399@hussein.me.ke> Mose, great share. Asante. The million dollar question is how soon will Africa realize that ignoring Net Neutrality issues have major consequences for the industry - Confusion, lack of policy direction, consumers being taken for a ride. Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad > On 27 Jan 2016, at 5:13 PM, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet wrote: > > You just can not stop innovation. You either work with it or against it. The Data Driven Revolution is here. > > The fact of the matter is OTA or no OTA. People did not call on cellular networks because of cost. They call when they need to, and its the same case - nothing has changed. Reducing OTA does not mean everyone will call more. It means they will continue calling the same way they did. If any of you have used OTA you may notice just how lousy the call quality is, issues ranging from call delay, call break ups, etc. > > Wise are those who will embrace the "data revolution". As did those who were the early adropters of the "mobile revolution". Our local telephone service provider was just not up to the game with the rising development of Mobile Telephony. Who is to say history won't repeat itself? > >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet wrote: >> Interesting developements Mose. At the end of the day we should not punish innovation. >> >> Regards >> >>> On Jan 27, 2016 1:21 PM, "Mose Karanja via kictanet" wrote: >>> South Africa - 26 Jan. >>> The Portfolio Committee on Telecommunications and Postal Services organised a public briefing on the Over-The-Top (OTT) policy and regulatory options. >>> Internet Connection Providers (MTN, Vodafone?.) claim OTT services don?t contribute financially to the local networks, don?t pay taxes, are not focused on consumer security. Their proposal: Regulate the providers just like the telcos are to equal the playing field. >>> >>> The OTT providers: Google (Hangouts) Facebook (Messenger, WhatsApp) and Microsoft (Skype) countered these claims: Google said they pay taxes to the SA government (this is not even a matter of opinion. It is either they pay or not), Facebook pointed to the symbiotic relationship that exists between them and the Telcos seeing the data consumed while using the OTTs is clearly revenue for the telcos. On security, FB gains revenue from advertisement, not selling user data. Microsoft: Skype helps minimize communication costs for consumers. Innovators and new entrants to the market benefit more by using these services than the companies do in revenue from Skype, WhatsApp and such. Data segments in the Telcos are the fastest growing revenue bases. They should thank the OTTs for this. >>> >>> The Consumer: I would love to hear what consumer groups in SA had to say to the Parliamentary committee, if they were there in the first place. >>> >>> Clearly OTTs have slashed communication prices which ISPs have for long managed. Now that 'the times are a changing? it is quite immoral, I dare say, for the telcos to lobby regulators help them deal with lost revenue (I prefer missed innovation). >>> It is more like car makers asking fuel companies to compensate them since they are making profits from their products. It doesn?t work like that. Unfortunately, we this battle is seen as ISPs versus the OTT providers and not between Consumers and ISPs, the regulators might just forget who they are out to protect. >>> >>> Morocco suspended VOIP this month on this principle, Rwanda is thinking along those lines. Kenyan Telcos are thinking about it. We are in for a real show. >>> >>> For more info: http://ewn.co.za/2016/01/26/Parly-cautioned-against-regulating-OTT-services >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Moses Karanja | @Mose_Karanja | PGP: 0x1529552F >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> kictanet mailing list >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/otieno.barrack%40gmail.com >>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kictanet mailing list >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet >> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gmail.com >> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. >> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > -- > Ahmed Maawy > Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) > Ambassador - Open Knowledge > Director - Startup Grind Mombasa > Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer > (KE) +254 714 960 627 > Skype: ultimateprogramer > > swahilibox.co.ke > www.okfn.org > startupgrind.com > ajplus.net > www.everylayer.com > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blongwe at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 20:33:44 2016 From: blongwe at gmail.com (Brian Munyao Longwe) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 19:33:44 +0200 Subject: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru In-Reply-To: <454417003.883618.1453888039479.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: <454417003.883618.1453888039479.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: @Walu, The headline made me dismiss the story as media trash.... :P Now that you have asked nicely, let me take a look.... :D Best, Mblayo On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Walubengo J wrote: > @Mblayo, > > I learnt from non other than Ezekiel Mutua last friday - that I can always > claim I was misquoted :-) > > But like I said, focus on the content, not just the headlines. Better > still get the original story @ > > > http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/walubengo/-/2274560/3049162/-/lnhwvcz/-/index.html > > walu. > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet > *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com > *Cc:* Brian Munyao Longwe > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:00 AM > *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS > Mucheru > > Seems Walu has started being affected by the media's propensity for > sensationalism - chief, choose your camp! :D > > Mblayo > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > Nanjira > The word 'vent' is Walu's way of grabbing our attention. :-) > Ali Hussein > Tel: +254 713 601113 > On Jan 27, 2016 7:42 AM, "Nanjira Sambuli via kictanet" < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > A media reporter opted for the verb "vent" to describe last Friday's > #First100Days fete. > > > ---- > *Tech Community Takes Opportunity to Vent At CS Mucheru > * > // *AllAfrica News: Kenya > * > > [Nation] Last week, the new Cabinet Secretary for ICT, Mr Joe Mucheru, was > kind enough to bring his two Principal Secretaries, Mr Victor Kyalo and Mr. > Sammy Itemere, along to a meeting hosted by the Kenya ICT Action Network > (KICTANet.) > ---- > > Shared via *my feedly reader * > > > > Regards, > Nanjira. > > Sent from my iPhone. > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/blongwe%40gmail.com > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT > sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. > > KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors > online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, > share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do > not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jw at hapakenya.com Thu Jan 28 10:36:20 2016 From: jw at hapakenya.com (James Wamathai) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:36:20 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans online Message-ID: Ngigi, Sometimes it's good to put some of these things into context. Which law prohibits sharing of images that say Yassin Juma broke? Also for the guy who was arrested coz of publishing information about Kabogo and eggs. Why does the state have an interest in a case like that instead of it being a civil matter. A common thread in all this is that the intention in all these cases is to intimidate the person and others like them so that they don't share information critical to certain people. I'm not for defending people who have broken the law but it doesn't seem that any of these people have broken any laws. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:21 PM, wrote: > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of Kenyans > online (Ngigi Waithaka) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:17:06 +0300 > From: Ngigi Waithaka > To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > Kenyans online > Message-ID: > f10KB_Zj0YYu61VNCYQw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Mwendwa, > > I get and understand your PoV. > > But, the other side of the coin is that there are those who are also > misusing the same laws, just as the state is misusing the same laws, to > spread the same fear. > > Organisations such as BAKE should cut both ways when dealing with misuse of > the laws. > > Rgds > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > > > Yes GG, > > > > And the constitution actually states those limitations in Chapter 4 of > > the constitution, article 24, and 33, and there are many other > > legislation which seek to balance these rights. > > > > But we should be very careful not to play into the hands of those who > > want to limit our rights further. States all over are very good in > > timing. They make legislation to the law to limit fundamental freedoms > > when people are scared. Like currently, we are a very scared society, > > and may want to trade off our rights for a sense of security. But if > > we do that, it will only be an illusion. > > > > On 26/01/2016, Grace Githaiga via kictanet > > wrote: > > > @AliDoes free speech eliminate consequences? And considering that > online > > > platforms are contested spaces with multiple users, do we need to find > a > > > balance? #Just asking. > > > > > > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:44 +0300 > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] BAKE condemns the arrest and intimidation of > > > Kenyans online > > > From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > CC: dmuthoni at gmail.com; muthoni at bake.or.ke; > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com > > > > > > Hi Ali, > > > No I don't mean to support any harassment, I was simply urging BAKE to > > > encourage responsible blogging. This I believe would be good for all > > > bloggers. > > > Best, Muthoni > > > Dorcas > > > With all due respect. > > > That sort of blanket condemnation of bloggers is music to the ears of > the > > > reactionaries in government. Granted, there are some bad apples. These > > bad > > > apples sort of remind us of the 'Mad Men' in our villages of > yesteryears. > > > How did we used to deal with them? Just because we disagree with > someone > > > doesn't mean we harass them and throw them in jail? We need to be > > careful we > > > don't slide back to the bad old days of Kanu. > > > Let the law be specific enough to ensure it is not misused to muzzle > free > > > speech and association.Ali > > > HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates > > > > > > Tel: +254 713 601113 > > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > > > > > Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim > > > > > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > > > > > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely > > mine > > > and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > > organizations > > > that I work with. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet > > > wrote: > > > But the government has a role in this. I don't know if it's been done > in > > the > > > right way. But we have some very irresponsible bloggers out there. I > > think > > > you also know them as BAKE. Can you please tell us how you are dealing > > with > > > such bloggers. > > > On Jan 25, 2016 11:36 AM, "Jane Muthoni via kictanet" > > > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > This is a statement BAKE has released on the recent arrest and > > prosecution > > > of Kenyans online. Read more here: > > > > > > http://www.blog.bake.co.ke/2016/01/24/bake-condemns-the-arrest-and-intimidation-of-kenyans-online/---- > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Jane Muthoni | Administration Manager, Bloggers Association of Kenya > > (BAKE) > > > > > > T: 0733522229, 0704090471 | personal - 0720 800927 > > > e: muthoni at bake.or.ke w: bake.co.ke | b: blog.bake.co.ke > > > > > > skype: muthoni.gachango | twitter: @cheekynoni > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:51 AM, < > > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke> > > > wrote: > > > Send kictanet mailing list submissions to > > > > > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > > > kictanet-request at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > > > kictanet-owner at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > > > than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN > > > > > > Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 (Bobs) > > > > > > 2. Asanteni (Grace Githaiga) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:37:59 +0300 > > > > > > From: Bobs > > > > > > To: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and > > > > > > NextGen at ICANN Application Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > > > > > Message-ID: <5A50AFB1-29E2-4A0F-9CCE-19CF90188626 at gmail.com> > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > > > > > > > > > Listers, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is for your information. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > B. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Yaovi Atohoun > > > > > >> Date: January 23, 2016 at 8:33:05 AM GMT+3 > > > > > >> To: AfrICANN Community List > > > > > >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fellowship and NextGen at ICANN Application > > >> Rounds Open for ICANN56 > > > > > >> Reply-To: AfrICANN Community List > > > > > >> > > > > > >> FRANCAIS: La periode de demande de bourses pour les Programmes > > >> NextGen at ICANN et Fellowship a d?but? ce 22 janvier 2016 pour prendre > > fin > > >> le 19 F?vrier 2016. Les noms des candidats s?lectionn?s seront > publi?s > > >> lsur le site de l'ICANN le 25 mars 2016. Pour plus de d?tails, pri?re > > >> visiter: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ENGLISH:lCANN launches the application rounds for both the > NextGen at ICANN > > >> and Fellowship Programs to participate in ICANN56 in Panama City, > Panama > > >> in June 2016. This round remains open until 19 February 2016 and > > >> successful candidates will be announced on the ICANN website, 25 March > > >> 2016. Please read more at > > >> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2016-01-22-en > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Merci/thanks > > > > > >> - > > > > > >> Yaovi Atohoun > > > > > >> Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager ? Africa > > > > > >> ICANN ? www.icann.org > > > > > >> Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > URL: > > > < > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/02866a30/attachment-0001.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 07:47:27 +0000 > > > > > > From: Grace Githaiga > > > > > > To: "kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" > > > > > > Subject: [kictanet] Asanteni > > > > > > Message-ID: > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Listers > > > > > > This is a quick note to thank those of you who attended the cocktail > this > > > last Friday to meet with our new CS and the two PSs and present the > > wishlist > > > attached. > > > > > > It was a great opportunity and the fact that so many of your wanted to > > ask > > > questions means we need to continuously talk to our leaders, and agree > on > > > how to continue developing the sector for the good of this nation. > > > > > > We will in due course share the plans for the next steps. > > > > > > Have a great week. > > > > > > RgdsGG for the organizing team (Grace B, Liz Orembo, > > Barrack,Kivuva,Kapiyo, > > > Walu and Ali) > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > URL: > > > < > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.html > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.docx > > > > > > Type: > > > application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document > > > > > > Size: 206459 bytes > > > > > > Desc: not available > > > > > > URL: > > > < > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.bin > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > Name: First100DaysConsolidatedCategorizedFeedback.pdf > > > > > > Type: application/pdf > > > > > > Size: 404276 bytes > > > > > > Desc: not available > > > > > > URL: > > > < > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20160124/2ec70f7c/attachment.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > End of kictanet Digest, Vol 104, Issue 84 > > > > > > ***************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > kictanet mailing list > > > > > > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > > > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > > > > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmuthoni%40gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform > > for > > > people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and > > > regulation. 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