[kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks

Fri Dec 2 10:17:13 EAT 2016

Those with opinions have already taken to the papers without the
stakeholder engagement. Did they engage prior?

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:

> My point is,  chaos are eminent in the industry.  Is it what we want.. NO.
>
> Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT Authority is part of the KICTANET
> community, let's engage them, instead of shooting in your defense. Let's
> get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement.
>
> I am afraid that having a few highly opinionated people rule mailing lists
> stalls multi-stakeholder participation.
>
> I hope that the ICT Authority is listening somewhere.
>
> On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Its not really about why people feel insecure. Its about what policy is
>> meant to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors or lawyers.
>>
>> With all due respect. What does the education system offer as a yardstick
>> for competence? Most of us got jobs before we even graduated school. And we
>> went on to work for projects and institutions that went on to win Awards in
>> the international arena.
>>
>> You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or being a Lawyer (where theory
>> is a factor). IT is an operational field. IT, more than any other field -
>> is based on Talent. Not much on Knowledge. This is why we have so many
>> people out of Uni looking for Internships that they can not find. In a
>> market where the dynamics are governed by people who did not even do that
>> degree - to drive technical jobs.
>>
>> And yes, we have several CEOs in several companies who (and some of them
>> entrepreneur their own way through) did not even do a BCom at the least.
>> Some of them did not even see an higher learning institution.
>>
>> We need to understand that the market dynamics are shifting. Schools in
>> developing are evolving. Why? *Because Technology has changed the
>> education field. The education field is not changing technology.*
>> Apologies if we believe so.
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> @Dorcas.
>>> Before we even get to answering why many people are insecure about the
>>> discussion, I would point to the more obvious question. What are the
>>> protagonists trying to do? what are they trying to solve? Unfortunately
>>> thus far, It is not clear. What is in need of regulation? and why does it
>>> need to be regulated? is this regulation for regulation's sake?
>>>
>>> I did mention yesterday that from my point of view, Regulation makes
>>> sense only where there is a limited resource, shared by many, which left
>>> without regulation would result in disorder and "law of the jungle". Which
>>> ICT component is this that needs to be streamlined to prevent it from
>>> spiralling out of control?
>>>
>>> From where I sit, It feels like a bunch of individuals feel shortchanged
>>> about the time, effort and money they spent in learning "the science" only
>>> to come out here and find the arena flattened by the same technology. It
>>> feels like "the bill" which seeks to assign non existent value to those
>>> that feel some level of entitlement to that "ict professional" title purely
>>> on the basis of having done ICT formally.
>>>
>>> I stand corrected.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why are so many people insecure about this topic.
>>>>
>>>> Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not?
>>>>
>>>> Which Innovators are these people are referring to?  As far as I know,
>>>> most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer
>>>> science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and
>>>> engineering graduates.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling
>>>> entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain
>>>> professional.  Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues
>>>> at hand.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously,  this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of
>>>> extreme tender-prenuership.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark
>>>> Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with
>>>> money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working
>>>> on it.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously,  we cannot water down such an important topic.
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority.
>>>>> 1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar).
>>>>> 2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests .
>>>>> This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but
>>>>> incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true,
>>>>> unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets.
>>>>> Personally I thing further probing is required.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in
>>>>>> the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated
>>>>>> to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully
>>>>>> here being key, which means no victimization of those without any
>>>>>> certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and
>>>>>> happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm;
>>>>>> and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such
>>>>>> a model exists? My two cents.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beryl Aidi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alliance Technologies
>>>>>>> www.at.co.ke
>>>>>>> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM
>>>>>>> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka
>>>>>>> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>>>>> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Exactly!
>>>>>>> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to
>>>>>>> define it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action
>>>>>>> - reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A
>>>>>>> decision for instance in some of these association, say which colour to
>>>>>>> paint a wall might take four months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If
>>>>>>> this can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions
>>>>>>> collectively.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are
>>>>>>>> not really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high
>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said
>>>>>>>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show
>>>>>>>> you a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a
>>>>>>>>> limited, shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a
>>>>>>>>> set of rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government
>>>>>>>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the
>>>>>>>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive
>>>>>>>>> legislation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james at muendo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Collins,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> James Muendo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO),
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nairobi,KE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: |
>>>>>>>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via
>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks
>>>>>>>>>>>> that professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of
>>>>>>>>>>>> departure which will show the distinct difference so as to justify
>>>>>>>>>>>> regulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gardner Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jobs, Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenya.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the term ICT started being used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> role of GateKeeper and RentSeeker?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lose most as they are hands on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs for the government, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> education - now we even have more innovative home schooling and best
>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice approaches. Healthcare etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instances - it is the industry associations working with the governments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An angle to borrow from.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> launch ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> public service must comply.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next
>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,”
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be blacklisted..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape
>>>>>>>>>>>>> while keep its jelly-nature?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be blessed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kingdom of God on Earth".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well in this case this dog could come biting back at the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who unleashed it. That is if we take into consideration how our
>>>>>>>>>>>>> institutions are run.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Information Communication and Technology (ICT)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals will now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> industry, ICT Authority chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> services in the counties.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read on:-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mediamaxn>etwork.co.ke/people-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://etwork.co.ke/people->daily/277875/ict-authority-weed-quacks/'.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> authority-weed-quacks/'. For more information on phishing click here
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///docs/phishing.html>.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: *FastMail WARNING: URL text and host don't match,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin>. com/in/alihkassim'. For more information on phishing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> click here <http:///docs/phishing.html>.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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