[kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks

[Alfred Kinyua]

Who is a quack?, IT being broad, disruptive and creative bound, I think we
need a formal targeted definition of a quack in ICT.

On Dec 1, 2016 21:44, "Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..."
>
> Waithaka Ngigi
>
> Alliance Technologies
> www.at.co.ke
> *From: *Collins Areba via kictanet
> *Sent: *Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM
> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka
> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Cc: *Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
>
> Exactly!
> ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to define it
> as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action - reaction
> - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A decision for
> instance in some of these association, say which colour to paint a wall
> might take four months.
>
> I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If this can
> be defined we should be in a position to find solutions collectively.
>
> On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>
>> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are not
>> really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high
>> places.
>>
>> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said
>> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes.
>>
>> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show you a
>> liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond...
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a limited,
>>> shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a set of
>>> rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government
>>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the
>>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive
>>> legislation.
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order.
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james at muendo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Collins,
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James Muendo
>>>>>
>>>>> Chief Executive Officer (CEO),
>>>>>
>>>>> Logic Craft Ltd,
>>>>>
>>>>> Suite 39, 2nd Floor, Visions Plaza, Mombasa Road
>>>>>
>>>>> P.O Box 28016 – 00200,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nairobi,KE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> M:| +254.725.567.508 S: | tim.rick Gtalk:| james.muendo T: |
>>>>> @MmuendoW:|http://about.me/muendo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks that
>>>>>> professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of departure
>>>>>> which will show the distinct difference so as to justify regulation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul Gardner
>>>>>>> Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs,
>>>>>>> Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii
>>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in Kenya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ______________________
>>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since the
>>>>>>> term ICT started being used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the role
>>>>>>> of GateKeeper and RentSeeker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ to
>>>>>>> see whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will lose
>>>>>>> most as they are hands on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti
>>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via kictanet" <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs for
>>>>>>> the government, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blessed Thursday!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to education -
>>>>>>> now we even have more innovative home schooling and best practice
>>>>>>> approaches. Healthcare etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances - it
>>>>>>> is the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to
>>>>>>> borrow from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks launch
>>>>>>> ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve public
>>>>>>> service must comply.
>>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next couple
>>>>>>> of weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT
>>>>>>> national standards and we plan on having them effective from first of
>>>>>>> January and based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,”
>>>>>>> said the CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will
>>>>>>> be blacklisted..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape while
>>>>>>> keep its jelly-nature?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Be blessed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards/Wangari
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are
>>>>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of
>>>>>>> God on Earth".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet
>>>>>>> <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well in this case this dog could come biting back at the same people
>>>>>>> who unleashed it. That is if we take into consideration how our
>>>>>>> institutions are run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All Information Communication and Technology (ICT) professionals
>>>>>>> will now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the industry, ICT
>>>>>>> Authority chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday.
>>>>>>> He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of
>>>>>>> individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for
>>>>>>> services in the counties.
>>>>>>> Read on:-
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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