[kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks

Thu Dec 1 21:28:44 EAT 2016

Exactly!
ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to define it
as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action - reaction
- feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A decision for
instance in some of these association, say which colour to paint a wall
might take four months.

I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If this can
be defined we should be in a position to find solutions collectively.

On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com> wrote:

> The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are not
> really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high
> places.
>
> If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said
> masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes.
>
> Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show you a
> liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond...
>
> On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> I believe regulation should only be present where there is a limited,
>> shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a set of
>> rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government
>> servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the
>> president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive
>> legislation.
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order.
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james at muendo.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Collins,
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Too Brief? Here's Why
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks that
>>>>> professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of departure
>>>>> which will show the distinct difference so as to justify regulation.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> College drop outs who rule the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Saul Dell, William Henry “Bill” Gates iii, Paul Gardner
>>>>>> Allen, Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen “Woz” Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs,
>>>>>> Robert Edward “Ted” Turner iii
>>>>>> http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in Kenya.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________
>>>>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The real important question has not been answered. Not since the term
>>>>>> ICT started being used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the role
>>>>>> of GateKeeper and RentSeeker?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ to see
>>>>>> whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will lose
>>>>>> most as they are hands on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Athar Ahmad Bhatti
>>>>>> +254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via kictanet" <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs for
>>>>>> the government, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blessed Thursday!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might the sector be getting its shape?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Private schooling started as an innovative approach to education -
>>>>>> now we even have more innovative home schooling and best practice
>>>>>> approaches. Healthcare etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances - it
>>>>>> is the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to
>>>>>> borrow from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks launch
>>>>>> ICT standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve public
>>>>>> service must comply.
>>>>>> “One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next couple of
>>>>>> weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT national
>>>>>> standards and we plan on having them effective from first of January and
>>>>>> based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,” said the
>>>>>> CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will be
>>>>>> blacklisted..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape while
>>>>>> keep its jelly-nature?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be blessed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards/Wangari
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are
>>>>>> Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of
>>>>>> God on Earth".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well in this case this dog could come biting back at the same people
>>>>>> who unleashed it. That is if we take into consideration how our
>>>>>> institutions are run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All Information Communication and Technology (ICT) professionals will
>>>>>> now be vetted to weed out quacks and sanitise the industry, ICT Authority
>>>>>> chief executive officer Robert Mugo said yesterday.
>>>>>> He said the authority is alarmed by the rising of cases of
>>>>>> individuals and groups masquerading as ICT experts seeking to tender for
>>>>>> services in the counties.
>>>>>> Read on:-
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>>> Principal
>>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>>> +254 0713 601113
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>>>>>> thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
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>>>>>> platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy
>>>>>> and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>>>>>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable
>>>>>> behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>>>>>> bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect
>>>>>> privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
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>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
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