[kictanet] Taifa Laptop

Ahmed Mohamed Maawy ultimateprogramer at gmail.com
Sat Aug 27 10:53:57 EAT 2016 

Waithaka.. NASA has some of the most sophisticated and quality assured
software there is.

And the NASA I know wont procure something that will compromise the quality
standards they have. Just think about it. They send a space-craft to Pluto
against 1000 parameters that they need to get right. The project costs
billions of dollars. And they made it to pluto. Thats worth a clap. What is
not worth a clap is getting desperate people to buy your technology.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Waithaka Ngigi <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:

> Ahmed,
>
> This is way too simplistic...
>
> It's like the German Chancellor saying since they have VW, BMW & Mercedes
> there's no need for The German Government to buy and promote upcoming
> German products.
>
> Would NASA in the US consider buying a cheaper Super Computer from China,
> for example, because HP & Dell need to sort out their business models?
> Huawei, for reasons disguised as 'National Security' cannot sell a single
> product to the US Govt... Not when US has firms like CISCO & Juniper
> building similiar equipment.
>
> ‎The thinking that there's no patriotism when purchasing products is only
> propagated at the developing world's so that they can open up their markets.
>
> Waithaka Ngigi
>
> Alliance Technologies
> www.at.co.ke
> *From: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet
> *Sent: *Saturday, August 27, 2016 10:01 AM
> *To: *Ngigi Waithaka
> *Reply To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> *Cc: *Ahmed Mohamed Maawy
> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop
>
> Personal comments:
>
> A business model that forces success is not a successful business. Its a
> dictatorial business.
>
> Examples of famous products from Kenya that Kenyans use:
>
>    - M-Pesa
>    - M-Kopa Solar
>    - Mobius
>    - Ushahidi
>    - BRCK
>    - BitPesa
>    - KopoKopo
>    - PesaPal
>    - And the list goes on...
>
> Some businesses just need to sort out their business models.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Walubengo J via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> @ Prof Ndemo,
>>
>> As you well know and remember, we experimented with our famous e-Maddo
>> machines that were assembled at a local university and we tried to sell
>> them to government ministries - without much success.
>>
>> Each ministry had and perhaps still has its 'owners' who will NOT want to
>> buy local when they can buy foreign - with some good 'personal returns' :-)
>>
>> We have great ideas, but zero execution.
>>
>> #What_Would_Magufuli_Do :-)?
>>
>> walu.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Bitange Ndemo via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> *To:* jwalu at yahoo.com
>> *Cc:* Bitange Ndemo <bndemo at bitangendemo.me>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 26, 2016 11:20 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Taifa Laptop
>>
>> David,
>> You are a great man.  Keep on sharing your experiences. Policy is a
>> democrat's tool for benevolent dictatorship.  The Government should just
>> have a policy to buy lab tops and desk tops from JKUAT.  Our taxes should
>> be spent on our products.
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:24 PM, David Otwoma via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I first met Taifa laptops when we had the ASK Show in 2015. I thought it
>> great then, and seeing this new development I think it is very good. http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/
>> departments/it/taifa-a3- laptop/
>> <http://www.jkuat.ac.ke/departments/it/taifa-a3-laptop/>
>>
>> It reminded me of how I returned to Kenya in 2006 after almost 10 years
>> abroad. The government had just removed duty on PC parts and hence since I
>> was entitled to  a 40 foot container with my personal effects I filled it
>> with motherboards, RAMs, HDs and other things not available locally. When
>> it was eventually cleared I got some of my childhood pals we grew together
>> in Eastlands and we would assemble "No Name" tower or desk top and enabled
>> many who could not afford branded i.e. IBM, HP, Dell etc. to still enjoy
>> what a computer can as the hardware of essence is the motherboard, RAM, HD
>> while software those days one could pirate MS without dire consequences.
>>
>> My bossom buddy got his son admitted to JKUAT and when the boy was sent
>> home for not having a laptop I advised he gets the Taifa as he will pay by
>> installments. Going forward what JKUAT may do is enter into an agreement
>> with some commercial bank(s) who can provide soft loans (now that interest
>> rates are coming down by law) to enable those who wish to pay back in 4 or
>> 5 years to have that facility.
>>
>> Globally I used to see German made (Siemen Company) desktops and towers
>> sold to students through local arrangements with European banks not only in
>> Germany but in Austria and Switzerland too. That does not stop those who
>> may wish to buy say Apple, Toshiba, HP etc at a premium doing so. The
>> beauty is we have our own, even if forced down out children's' throats, it
>> eventually will bring about the effect I have seen in far of places like
>> Japan, South Korea, USA just to name a few. I remember a friend who had to
>> attended a 6 months training course in Japan was issued a Toshiba laptop
>> and its cost included in the training package. the whole class had more
>> than 20 Africans and it occurred every year since 1997. If JKUAT can borrow
>> that leaf and extend beyong 1st years reporting to civil servants who have
>> to attend some compulsory courses not available at Kenya School of
>> Government it will be great as it would boost usage and outlet of this
>> Taifa laptops. Better still is making a deal with government entities like
>> the Ministries, Parastatals etc and supply us with this laptops. Only last
>> week I was issued with the biannual replacement of my laptop witha HP
>> imported from United Arab Emirates and I am willing to bet half my August
>> salary that it was purchased in excess of kshs. 70,000 while its specs are
>> not so different from the Taifa laptop! Why are we happier creating jobs
>> for technicians (since someone may argue degree holders should not be
>> assembling laptops) abroad while our own youths are jobless. Why do we wish
>> to export our dollars abroad when we could pass the money to our own
>> locally to spend locally, the bigger chunks, eventually?
>>
>> Finally every-time I visit West African countries I notice they do not
>> wear suits like we do in kenya starting from their President down to the
>> street urchins. They have evolved a sophisticated clothing industry that do
>> not allow 'someone died aka mitumba' industry as we have here.
>>
>> Let me start counting the minutes to Furahi day.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> David Otwoma, PhD
>> Chief Scientist,
>> National Commission for Science Technology and Innovation (NACOSTI)
>> Utalii House, P.O Box 30623-00100 Nairobi, Kenya
>> Safcom tel: +254 722 141771,
>> Orange tel: +254 (0)20 2346915,
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>> http://www.nacosti.go.ke
>> &
>> Chairman,
>> Eastern Africa Association for Radiation Protection,
>> http://www.eaarp.org/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Musya Michael via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
>>
>> Anyone using this laptop? Experiences so far?
>>
>> http://www.the-star.co.ke/news /2016/08/22/parents-protest-
>> jkuats-imposition-of-taifa- laptops-on-students_c1407693
>> <http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/08/22/parents-protest-jkuats-imposition-of-taifa-laptops-on-students_c1407693>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Musya.
>>
>>
>> I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
>> Philippians 4:13
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