[kictanet] kictanet Digest, Vol 103, Issue 128
Mose Karanja
mosekaranja at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 15:56:21 EAT 2015
Brazil got me by surprise. Of all governments, after the popular passing of the Internet 'Bill of Rights’ last year, NETmundial and this year’s IGF. They even offered to host Snowden. This got me!
As it relates to privacy, it is neat to know WhatsApp has been working with OpenWhispers on end2end encryption. As at September 2015, WhatsApp had 900M Monthly Users. By securing and encrypting this huge number of users globally, WhatsApp is changing the future of communication as we know it and they should be supported by all those who believe in privacy and human rights.
Moses.
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> 1. Re: Brazilians Locked out of WhatsApp (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy)
> 2. Re: Brazilians Locked out of WhatsApp (Ebele Okobi)
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> From: Ahmed Mohamed Maawy <ultimateprogramer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Brazilians Locked out of WhatsApp
> Date: December 17, 2015 at 3:00:05 PM EAT
> To: Kictanet - Main <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Cc: ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc at lists.my.co.ke>, Mose Karanja <mosekaranja at gmail.com>
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> There have also been questions raised about the uber model.. It may work in some scenarios. It may not work so well in others. For instance, there have been claims of exploitation of drivers by uber itself. It was in the news a while back. Which may also be related to the corporate culture we have been used to seeing in the private sector.
>
> I think the important question to also ask is.. does the disruption mean anything in the bigger picture of things? Does it also point to the fact that we can also drastically re-visit how we do simple things like taxi rides and make them more efficient? Are there elements we are not looking at?
>
> So pros and cons do exist and I think healthy debates can chart the best ways forward for such disruptive new models.
>
> On 17 Dec 2015 14:49, "Mose Karanja via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
> Uber disrupted the taxi ecosystem so immensely that some taxi unions started attacks on Uber the company and Uber the product arguing they are taxed and licensed yet their new competitors are not taxed. They hope(d) the regulators would side with their argument. Some did some didn't.
>
> The Uber-moment is thus (in my world) that point in the life of a disruptive product when the existing dominant player seeks favor from the regulators to block that which 'they can't understand'.
>
> Cue in Bob Dylan's Times are A Changing :)
>
> On 17 Dec 2015 13:31, "Paul Roy" <roykoikai at gmail.com <mailto:roykoikai at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Ebele,
>
> This is going to open a whole set of regulatory concerns around privacy vs. security.
>
> Following this keenly!
>
> Paul Roy.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
> Uber moment? Tell me more!
>
> WhatsApp is protecting the privacy rights of its users-here's a FB post from WhatsApp's founder, Jan Koum (btw, when you get a chance, look up his personal history. It gives a sense of why he is so passionate about the right to privacy.)
>
> "We are disappointed in the short-sighted decision to cut off access to WhatsApp, a communication tool that so many Brazilians have come to depend on, and sad to see Brazil isolate itself from the rest of the world."
>
> Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa
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> On Dec 17, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Mose Karanja via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
>
>> A Brazilian judge has ordered a 48 hour WhatsApp lockdown.
>> The order claims WhatsApp refused to cooperate with Law Enforcement agencies on data handover.
>> The harshness of the verdict is thus seen as a retaliation to show whois boss.
>> However, there is the Telco Lobby pushing for regulation (that word again) of VOIP (WhatsApp calls) under the claim that Brazilians are no longer using voice calls and yet they are taxed for the spectrum which WhatsApp is not being taxed for since it is not classified as a Telco.
>>
>> You can read more here (in Portuguese):
>> http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/12/1719934-justica-determina-bloqueio-do-whatsapp-em-todo-brasil-por-48-horas.shtml <http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/12/1719934-justica-determina-bloqueio-do-whatsapp-em-todo-brasil-por-48-horas.shtml>
>>
>> or here in English
>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/16/brazils-congress-has-shut-down-whatsapp-tonight-and-the-rest-of-the-social-web-could-be-next/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29&utm_content=FaceBook&sr_share=facebook <http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/16/brazils-congress-has-shut-down-whatsapp-tonight-and-the-rest-of-the-social-web-could-be-next/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)&utm_content=FaceBook&sr_share=facebook>
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>> An Uber-moment for WhatsApp.
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> From: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi at fb.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Brazilians Locked out of WhatsApp
> Date: December 17, 2015 at 3:03:05 PM EAT
> To: Mose Karanja <mosekaranja at gmail.com>
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> Of course-got it!
> I was focusing on the privacy issue, not the operator revenue issue. I do think it's interesting to think of the fact that operators themselves were disrupters. . .
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> On Dec 17, 2015, at 11:48 AM, Mose Karanja <mosekaranja at gmail.com <mailto:mosekaranja at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Uber disrupted the taxi ecosystem so immensely that some taxi unions started attacks on Uber the company and Uber the product arguing they are taxed and licensed yet their new competitors are not taxed. They hope(d) the regulators would side with their argument. Some did some didn't.
>>
>> The Uber-moment is thus (in my world) that point in the life of a disruptive product when the existing dominant player seeks favor from the regulators to block that which 'they can't understand'.
>>
>> Cue in Bob Dylan's Times are A Changing :)
>>
>> On 17 Dec 2015 13:31, "Paul Roy" <roykoikai at gmail.com <mailto:roykoikai at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Ebele,
>>
>> This is going to open a whole set of regulatory concerns around privacy vs. security.
>>
>> Following this keenly!
>>
>> Paul Roy.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Ebele Okobi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
>> Uber moment? Tell me more!
>>
>> WhatsApp is protecting the privacy rights of its users-here's a FB post from WhatsApp's founder, Jan Koum (btw, when you get a chance, look up his personal history. It gives a sense of why he is so passionate about the right to privacy.)
>>
>> "We are disappointed in the short-sighted decision to cut off access to WhatsApp, a communication tool that so many Brazilians have come to depend on, and sad to see Brazil isolate itself from the rest of the world."
>>
>> Ebele Okobi | Head of Public Policy, Africa
>> m. +44 (0) 771 156 1315 <tel:+44%20(0)%20771%20156%201315>
>> 10 Brock Street | London <> | NW1 3FG
>> ebeleokobi at fb.com <mailto:ebeleokobi at fb.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Mose Karanja via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke <mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
>>
>>> A Brazilian judge has ordered a 48 hour WhatsApp lockdown.
>>> The order claims WhatsApp refused to cooperate with Law Enforcement agencies on data handover.
>>> The harshness of the verdict is thus seen as a retaliation to show whois boss.
>>> However, there is the Telco Lobby pushing for regulation (that word again) of VOIP (WhatsApp calls) under the claim that Brazilians are no longer using voice calls and yet they are taxed for the spectrum which WhatsApp is not being taxed for since it is not classified as a Telco.
>>>
>>> You can read more here (in Portuguese):
>>> http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mercado/2015/12/1719934-justica-determina-bloqueio-do-whatsapp-em-todo-brasil-por-48-horas.shtml <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www1.folha.uol.com.br_mercado_2015_12_1719934-2Djustica-2Ddetermina-2Dbloqueio-2Ddo-2Dwhatsapp-2Dem-2Dtodo-2Dbrasil-2Dpor-2D48-2Dhoras.shtml&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=MvsuZVjTPjBi_OMkstBjZebmwW2P9xrTdd1VIdrRapo&s=OnNDfBrAmo3aYDs7JvN9XOyiRKbBtv7bCuSHwJOFACk&e=>
>>>
>>> or here in English
>>> http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/16/brazils-congress-has-shut-down-whatsapp-tonight-and-the-rest-of-the-social-web-could-be-next/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29&utm_content=FaceBook&sr_share=facebook <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__techcrunch.com_2015_12_16_brazils-2Dcongress-2Dhas-2Dshut-2Ddown-2Dwhatsapp-2Dtonight-2Dand-2Dthe-2Drest-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dsocial-2Dweb-2Dcould-2Dbe-2Dnext_-3Fncid-3Drss-26utm-5Fsource-3Dfeedburner-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dfeed-26utm-5Fcampaign-3DFeed-3A-2BTechcrunch-2B-28TechCrunch-29-26utm-5Fcontent-3DFaceBook-26sr-5Fshare-3Dfacebook&d=CwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=MvsuZVjTPjBi_OMkstBjZebmwW2P9xrTdd1VIdrRapo&s=zPUHNKuMHDnEiDYedr_bvXqCA2c6fw_35PpqcK_4riI&e=>
>>>
>>> An Uber-moment for WhatsApp.
>>> ---
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