[kictanet] House team halts Equity Bank's thin-SIM rollout
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Wed Sep 24 17:38:27 EAT 2014
Dear Victor,
They DO!! It is obviously a fallacy that non-technical people make decisions on technical issues. But we are not a banana republic – at least on paper.
If you read Art.1(2) of the Constitution – those characters hold enormous powers. They make the law for regulator in line with Art.34 (recall CA is not a Chapter 15 Commission and “independence” is limited).
“The people may exercise their sovereign power either directly or through their “democratically” elected representatives” Art. 1(3)(a) says sovereign power is delegated …. To Parliament and the legislative assemblies in the County Governments. Also read Art. 95 and 96 and so on”
Kind regards,
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From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+hotline=cofek.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Victor bwire via kictanet
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:22 PM
To: The Consumers Federation of Kenya (Cofek)
Subject: Re: [kictanet] House team halts Equity Bank's thin-SIM rollout
Dear Grace
the House Team has no supervisory powers over the Regulator- Not at all
Just that MPs have become terrible
regards
Victor
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@ Victor,
The heading of this article says the 'house team halts..." while the body of the story has "has asked CA to halt..." It might be semantics but my interpretation of this is that this is a request to CA, and not a directive. Yes?
Tell me, does the house team have oversight over regulatory matters? I am looking at KICA 2013 Article 5 on CA's independence:
5A. (1) The Authority shall be independent
and free of control by government, political or
commercial interests in the exercise of its
powers and in the performance of its functions.
(2) In fulfilling its mandate, the Authority
shall be guided by the national values and
principles of governance in Article 10 and the
values and principles of public service in Article
232 (1) of the Constitution.
What would happen say if CA disregards the House team's demand?
Rgds
GG
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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:17 +0100
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Equity Given Go Ahead by CAK
From: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com
The tables have turned again:
House team halts Equity Bank's thin-SIM rollout
The National Assembly’s Energy and ICT Committee has asked the Communications Authority (CA) to halt Equity Bank thin-SIM card rollout until it is satisfied of the security of the technology.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/House-team-halts-Equity-Bank-thin-SIM-rollout/-/1064/2463762/-/2srp37/-/index.html
Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
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“Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar
On 22 September 2014 18:49, Martin Gicheru via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Safaricom does not necessarily agree to the move but will cooperate while it still needs to.
”We are particularly encouraged that CA has commenced the process of hiring an independent and reputable international firm to conduct a security audit on all SIM cards, and in particular the use of the SIM overlay technology in mobile money transfer services. We therefore implore the CA to fast track the security review and to publish the guidelines in the interests of protecting consumers and financial institutions who will remain vulnerable to the potential risks created by the ‘man-in-the-middle attack’. ”
http://techmoran.com/safaricom-remains-adamant-thin-sim-vulnerabilities/
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Change is the only permanent thing!
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@Charles,
Interesting views. I dont speak for Equity - and am not even a MEMBER
(their customer). However, they have the following going for them.
1) they do have their OWN SIM card targetting their 8m banking customers.
They can actually make money out their core group of customers using their
mobile virtual network (riding on Airtel telco infrastructure i believe).
2) the thin-SIM technology is just a nice option for their 8m customers AND
the 20+million Safaricom customers.
3) indeed Safcom can play dirty but I am sure they wont because (a) they can
take on Equity challenge and (b) the regulator seems more ready than ever to
pounce on them (recall regulator has been "looking" for them over quality
issues :-).
Remember, this looks like a mobile money battle, but the real deal is the
collateral damage it is likely to cause in the voice market because once a
Safaricom customer mounts the thin SIM Card and discovers that they can make
cheaper calls/sms with it without losing their MPESA functionality...they
will actually be having their cake (MPESA) while eating it (making Cheaper
calls on the Equity Mobile virtual network).
Essentially, Equity is breaking a small gap into the Safaricom defensive
wall(MPESA) and once in, even the data-market may eventually be free for all
i.e. #checkmate.
walu.
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On Mon, 9/22/14, Charles Kimani via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Equity Given Go Ahead by CAK
To: jwalu at yahoo.com
Date: Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:44 PM
I
think the thin sim strategy is brilliant...in theory.
However, I am also
wondering just how wise it is to place the success of your business model
at the mercy of a hostile, powerful and uncooperative business rival. What
if - 6 months after launch, for example - Safaricom decide to upgrade all
their sim cards (genuinely or otherwise) just when Equity is in the middle
of a critical (probably expensive) product rollout? What if Safaricom
customer service and dealer/retail channels start advising subscribers who
are having issues with their lines that the thin sim is the cause of their
problems and show them how to remove it?
How will Equity map their processes
and logistics with the Safaricom SIM replacement processes?
Will Equity subscribers need to remember to make an extra stop at an
Equity outlet to have their thin sim re-attached once they do a sim swap?
How easy is it to attach these thin sims?
We have
previously seen smart sabotage tactics bring down SAB Miller ambitions in
the Kenyan market. Equity - in my opinion - is giving too much firepower to
a determined competitor. It might be cheaper in the long run to just invest
in own SIM and take Safaricom head-on.
Regards,Charles
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at
4:18 PM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
Meanwhile, I did get the Equitel SIM Card (haven't seen the infamous Thin
SIM). So far, here's my experience with the
same. http://www.infotake.co.ke/2014/09/how-does-equity-banks-equitel-work.h <http://www.infotake.co.ke/2014/09/how-does-equity-banks-equitel-work.html>
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On 22 September 2014 16:11, Barrack
Otieno via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
Sometimes
diversification leads to loss of focus. Interesting discussions but let us
see if this scenario will change some of this Principles that have evolved
over time.
Best Regards
On Mon, Sep 22,
2014 at 3:56 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
wrote:
I have noted media reports
indicating Equity has been granted go-ahead by CAK to operate with
Thin-Sim cards. Game changing I suppose.
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