[kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014

Walubengo J jwalu at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 25 14:20:52 EAT 2014


@Murigi,

Agreed.  ISACA-Kenya or any other organisation may wish to contribute.  But government must first avail the working (draft?) documents.

Anyone with the Policy and/or proposed Cyvercrime bill?  I only managed to see the draft Cybecrime strategy that was shared @ ConnectedKenya.

walu.
nb: problem with working on something without a formal invitation is that you face a high-risk of rejection. I.e your contribution may join a list of other neatly filed and frozen strategies that never see the light of day :-)
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On Wed, 6/25/14, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
 To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
 Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 12:46 PM
 
 Walu, 
 No pun intended, but maybe Isaca.or.ke
 should ask for or organize a seminar for the public
 officials behind the bill.
 Per diems for a local event may be less than those for
 attending International seminars but may win some goodwill
 around the same. 
 On Jun 25, 2014 12:18
 PM, "Walubengo J via kictanet" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 wrote:
 
 True that @Chuksjonia,
 
 
 
 Am not sure if one of the leading global Info-Security
 organisations www.ISACA.org with a Kenyan
 chapter @   www.isaca.or.ke  having
 over 1,000 registered IS professionals was involved.
 
 
 
 
 If not, what a wasted opportunity to harvest local knowledge
 to address local challenges.
 
 
 
 walu.
 
 
 
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 On Wed, 6/25/14, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes
 Bill, 2014
 
  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
 
  Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
 
 
 
  Just wondering, which
 
  Information Risks / Information Security
 
  consultants, were the stakeholders when this
 
  bill was getting
 
  prepared.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 6/24/14, ngethe.kariuki2007
 
  via kictanet
 
  <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 
  wrote:
 
  >
 
  > James, ,
 
  Listers
 
  > I hope that the policy document
 
  which informed the drafting of the Bill will
 
  > also be made available so that the public
 
  can participate meaningfully while
 
  >
 
  discussing the Bill.
 
  > Does any lister
 
  recall public consultation on such a policy?
 
  >
 
  > John Kariuki
 
  >
 
  > Sent from Samsung
 
  Mobile
 
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  Original message --------
 
  > From: James
 
  Kulubi via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 
  > Date:
 
  > To: ngethe.kariuki2007 at yahoo.co.uk
 
  > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Cybercrime and
 
  Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
 
  >
 
  > Although I have not read this Bill, I
 
  believe that there is something
 
  >
 
  fundamentally wrong with the procedure followed during
 its
 
  development. Law
 
  > enforcement agencies,
 
  the judiciary and the prosecutor should ordinarily not
 
  > be allowed to initiate laws. They are
 
  likely to trample on the citizen's
 
  >
 
  rights by making laws that make their job  easier. How
 come
 
  that government
 
  > agencies have a legal
 
  mandate to develop policy and  its implementing
 
  > instruments (legislation and
 
  regulations)  are silent on this matter? Where
 
  > are these bodies  Law Reform Commission,
 
  National Communication Secretariat,
 
  > ICT
 
  Authority,KIPPRA, etc.
 
  > Prof. James
 
  Kulubi
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
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  > On Fri, 20/6/14, Gideon via kictanet
 
  <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 
  wrote:
 
  >
 
  > Subject:
 
  [kictanet] Cybercrime and Computer Crimes Bill, 2014
 
  > To: jkulubi at yahoo.co.uk
 
  > Date: Friday, 20 June, 2014, 8:51
 
  >
 
  > Thanks
 
  > Victor,
 
  >
 
  > The Nation article says that, Courts in
 
  the country will
 
  > soon have jurisdiction
 
  to try any Kenyan
 
  > citizen who commits
 
  an offence anywhere in the world if the
 
  >
 
  Cybercrime
 
  > and Computer Crimes Bill,
 
  2014 becomes law.
 
  >
 
  >
 
  A copy of the
 
  > bill will be helpful for
 
  all those interested. Anyone with
 
  > that
 
  bill kindly avail it.
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  Regards
 
  >
 
  >
 
  > Gideon Rop
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  > There was a story in
 
  the Nation - Tough law on cybercrime
 
  >
 
  targets all
 
  >
 
  >
 
  Kenyans -
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  > http://www.nation.co.ke/news/cybercrime-Bill-Kenyans-around-the-world-prosecution/-/1056/2352702/-/9djlz/-/index.html
 
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  > Can someone share a
 
  copy of the bill?
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  Victor Kapiyo, LL.B
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
  >
 
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  > *"Your
 
  > attitude, not your aptitude, will
 
  determine your
 
  > altitude" Zig
 
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