[kictanet] Security Situation in Kenya

S.M. Muraya murigi.muraya at gmail.com
Tue Jun 24 11:44:54 EAT 2014


Can already tell you some of  the "curriculum" required/used  to develop
Stuxnet type viruses 🙌

It does not require going abroad (unless for per diems of course).

Maybe Go.Ke should consult/pay veterans in the local training industry.
You would be surprised how much knowledge is wasting away in bars.
 On Jun 24, 2014 9:33 AM, "Peter Wakaba via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Government was supposed to export abroad and train, in britain and israel
> an initial 250 newly recruited and trained police officers handpicked from
> our universities for this purpose. I happen to know that the budget for
> this training is rather generous and a lot of the capbilities for this
> system are not in public domain.
>
> Safaricom does not oversee the security curriculum and apart from two
> people (both young kenyans) who are exclusively responsible and intimately
> involved with most parts of the project everything else is GOK.
>
> Ethiopia has been trying to put together a new generation digital
> monitoring and security system with aspects similar to what kenya i doing.
> Their consultant was kenyan.
> they have the same Huawei/ZTE mess we have.
>
> dont forget that in security issues what  you see is not often what inr
> eality is the case.
>
> And meanwhile, the criminals, run and hide ads are still running.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Telemedia africa <baiju at telemedia.co.ke>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter and Ali,
>>
>> Great start to the post on how to build out these crack teams etc. Great
>> estimated costs. My question is who is going to run this white elephant of
>> a security and hacking force that has been tabled? I do not think when
>> politics involved world over, there is a possibility to run this
>> efficiently or effectively.
>>
>> Therefore, the Safaricom option seems to be attractive as it will be run
>> in some effect efficiently or not is another question.
>>
>> Can understand the requirement to move high density data across the
>> network quickly and can see the need for technologies like LTE but for 100k
>> it is a luxury - can we afford the Luxury. Let's consider the corrupt ways
>> of our nation and how they operate, well most of the crooks are out the
>> small players are caught in the end. Therefore, if anybody would like to be
>> doing business in this space have to be of a certain size in order to
>> afford the cost of getting out of trouble and hence the minimum turnover
>> requirements.
>>
>> Going to the US suspect on Chinese equipment is to protect the local
>> industry period, nothing to do with back doors etc, there are firewalls and
>> different checks and balances put in place to have a holistic security
>> strategy in place therefore let's not even consider these claims. Most of
>> the Chinese technology is a copy of, let's be honest most of these
>> platforms are built on American Operating Systems therefore the back doors
>> can be managed from there easily, if you know how these systems are put
>> together as they have their logs and tracks that could be monitored if one
>> had the desire...
>>
>> The British use Huewei, ZTE and really not concerned as their telecoms
>> equipment manufacturer disappeared with the demise of Marconi who some of
>> the best telecom technology in the analogue world.
>>
>> I sort of rest my case on how we architect the systems and we should not
>> reinvent the wheel but to build up the available tech. To fit our
>> requirement, hence I suggest train an all round team that will be able to
>> manage the holistic nature of security rather then the point solutions and
>> workarounds.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Baiju Shah
>> Managing Partner|Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>
>> Suite 12|Chaka Court | Argwings Kodek Road,
>> P.O. Box 14556-00100, Nairobi, Kenya.
>> T: +254 737 751409 | M: +254 787332247
>> E: baiju at tele2media.com
>>
>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 12:07, Peter Wakaba via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Huawei has been Safaricom's infrastrucutre partner since start up. Bear
>> in mind that Safaricom is also part owned by Vodafone, who are represented
>> on teh board and can voice any 'western concerns'.
>>
>> Me thinks teh rest is smoke and mirrors.
>>
>> Dont forget ZTE also chinese has been angling to get a piece of this pie.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Had a look at this post this morning
>>> http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2000125730/kimaiyo-holds-crisis-meeting-with-kws-kfs-nys-bosses
>>> and IMO it vindicates my earlier position that the biggest issue to address
>>> in securing our country is lack of Logistics and a quick response team.
>>>
>>> The police are not known to have any serviceable helicopter, the last
>>> one being the one Prof Saitoti crashed in I think.
>>>
>>> So, maybe we ask Safaricom to buy & maintain helicopters instead? Might
>>> sound funny, but would have a much bigger impact.
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ali,
>>>>
>>>> Tell them...
>>>>
>>>> Listers,
>>>>
>>>> Decided to do a bit of back-of-napkin math on cost proposal for counter
>>>> -terrorism as a little lunch exercise.
>>>>
>>>> If you were to hire the best 100 guys coming out of our Universities in
>>>> Computer Science, Maths & Electronics at say Ksh 250k / month each (Ksh 4M
>>>> / year) to join an elite hacking unit, comparable to NSA, you would do so
>>>> at a budget of Ksh 400M / Year. Put in another Ksh 400M for Operations and
>>>> Ksh 1B / Year would be enough to ran this Unit / Year.
>>>>
>>>> Go ahead and hire top consultants to teach our guys top-notch Network
>>>> building, configurations and maintenance and hire the top Huwaei guys here
>>>> on retainer. Lets say we give them Ksh 15M / Year each, being 10 guys, that
>>>> works out to Ksh 150M / year to hire consultants who can build and maintain
>>>> as we learn from them.
>>>>
>>>> Our guys would in short order build for you any network you could think
>>>> of using COTS Equipment and there would *not* be any electronic
>>>> communication targeting Kenyans that would be out of our reach and more
>>>> importantly we would be able to roll out and maintain our own security
>>>> network and perhaps sell our capabilities to Uganda, Ethiopia.
>>>>
>>>> So, Ksh 1.5B / Year you have a crack hacking and maintenance unit.
>>>>
>>>> How much for the communication equipment?
>>>> Lets just say you are using the high -end Motorola MC75A, comes at
>>>> about $2,000 a pop including encryption cards, meaning you can use the
>>>> already existing mobile networks while giving GoK Personnel their own VPN
>>>> Channels. If you were to buy one unit for every 2 cops (35,000) in the
>>>> whole country, you are looking at about Ksh 4B.
>>>>
>>>> It still beats me why we would want to build a 4G LTE Security Network
>>>> that will at most be used by 100,000 Personnel.
>>>>
>>>> CCTV, these ones should even be done by Youth Companies, but at Ksh
>>>> 2,000 a pop, you could buy and install 100,000 of these at about Ksh 400M,
>>>> put another 600M to bring it to Ksh 1B of 100,000 CCTV Cameras installed
>>>>
>>>> So at an initial investment of:
>>>> Ksh 1.5B ->Crack Hacking Unit & Maintenance team
>>>> Ksh 4B -> Communication Equipment ( 1 in every two cops)
>>>> Ksh 1B -> 100,000 CCTV Equipment
>>>> Ksh 2B -> Other Equipment (Servers, Computer Equipment, Software)
>>>>
>>>> There is not a pin that would drop around here that we wouldn't know
>>>> about.
>>>>
>>>> From here, we would need a high - response crack team to tackle
>>>> security incidences across the country. Say 500 guys of our best commandos.
>>>> Again each getting Ksh 4M / year to keep them highly motivated, that's
>>>> Ksh 2.0B / Year.
>>>> Fighting Gear, each guy with Ksh 1M of fighting gear, that's Ksh 500M
>>>> CAPEX
>>>>
>>>> Now, the expensive part is how to get them there. Say you need to drop
>>>> 100 guys quickly, what do you need, Transport Helicopters, say you go for
>>>> the Boeing CH-47 Chinook, that's 25M USD a pop, carrying 50 guys each
>>>> *,* we get four of those, so thats 100M USD or Ksh 9B
>>>>
>>>> *. *
>>>> Get a few attack Helicopters, at say USD 20M a pop, say we get 10,
>>>> that's USD 200M thats approx Ksh 15B
>>>>
>>>> *.*
>>>> Now we got a team that can hit anywhere in this country at most an
>>>> 30mins - 1 hours notice
>>>>
>>>> *. *
>>>> How much for crack anti-terrorism uni
>>>> *t.*CAPEX: Ksh 30B
>>>> Per Year Operational Costs (Salaries + Equipment Maintenance): Ksh 5B /
>>>> year
>>>>
>>>> If you spread the CAPEX over 5 years, say as a loan, you are doing
>>>> about Ksh 6B / year for 5 years, which to this country is almost a rounding
>>>> off error seeing that Ministries are taking back hundreds of billions in
>>>> unused funds every year.
>>>>
>>>> With this, a Turkana herder (now former ngoroko) will be passing a lone
>>>> cow in Baragoi / Suguta Valley without so much as a second look at it,
>>>> knowing fire raining from above is just 30 mins away.
>>>>
>>>> So, how does my proposal compare to say the Safaricom Ksh 15B proposal
>>>> to put a security network in Nairobi & Mombasa?
>>>>
>>>> Jury is out there...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sitting ducks is what we are.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only solution to this is a homegrown industry able to ensure that
>>>>> National Interests are safeguarded. This starts from killing the culture in
>>>>> security tenders (and other sectors) where the catchphrase is:-
>>>>>
>>>>> 'You must have revenues of $100 million and above to qualify for this
>>>>> tender.' And other such clauses which are geared towards the size of the
>>>>> payoff to corrupt networks as opposed to the best solution.'
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>
>>>>> +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>>>>
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world
>>>>> will have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> US and UK C4ISR programs were the reason they were able to know of the
>>>>> attacks before hand and pull their people off Coast region. We know of
>>>>> the company Booz and Allen where Snowden used to work, and the hacks
>>>>> they did on Huawei equipments.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/19/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In Intelligence business, you trust no one!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Every country does what is best for it's *own* interests. If putting
>>>>>
>>>>> backdoors in tech equipment is to the US / Chinese interests, they
>>>>> will do
>>>>>
>>>>> it and they have done it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The only you can avoid this, is either you manufacture your own
>>>>> equipment
>>>>>
>>>>> or on the very least assemble equipment from COTS for sensitive areas
>>>>> or
>>>>>
>>>>> you also get very adept at identifying & removing the backdoors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Mark Mwangi via kictanet <
>>>>>
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So we now distrust the Chinese based on the information offered by the
>>>>>
>>>>> Americans who are running a worldwide spying program tapping just about
>>>>>
>>>>> everyone? Lets not even get started on the back-doors installed in
>>>>>
>>>>> equipment built by the Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Matunda Nyanchama via kictanet <
>>>>>
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On this subject, it is curious that Safaricom's partner in the project
>>>>>
>>>>> is Chinese Telcom giant Huawei.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Americans have reservations, apprehensive/suspicious Huwawei technology
>>>>>
>>>>> wrt spying. Here is an excerpt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman Mike Rogers somewhat
>>>>>
>>>>> famously said <http://j.mp/ICrmay> last year that Huawei's products
>>>>>
>>>>> "cannot be trusted to be free of foreign state influence and thus pose
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> security threat to the United States and to our systems." The committee
>>>>>
>>>>> also released a report that accused Huawei of all kinds of bad behavior
>>>>>
>>>>> including bribery, corruption, and immigration violations. Huawei, of
>>>>>
>>>>> course, denied the claims
>>>>>
>>>>> <
>>>>> http://www.huawei.com/en/about-huawei/newsroom/press-release/hw-194454-hpsci.htm
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> ."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Full article Here.
>>>>>
>>>>> <
>>>>> http://gizmodo.com/accused-of-spying-huawei-ceo-says-company-is-exiting-1475628703
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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