[kictanet] Security Situation in Kenya

Mon Jun 16 15:58:18 EAT 2014

We'll be able to judge how seriously GoK takes this by how high up the
person is who gets fired.  I suspect nobody will just like after Westgate
... and that's exactly how seriously they take it.

-Adam
--
Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
More Musings: varud.com
About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Gichuki,
>
> These are questions that are also very troubling to me.
>
> If you think about it, the British Consulate in Mombasa, maybe the oldest
> consulate was closed last week amid terrorism fears. This not from any
> other Country, but UK, one country that has arguably the largest investment
> in Kenya, where a decision like that is not taken lightly.
>
> And not even a week later, we get hit at Mpeketoni. Now, we might not have
> been able to stop it, but the least we would have done, having gotten the
> signals from our friends who were closing their Consulates at the coast, is
> to have been very well prepared.
>
> I am told these guys hit at 20:00hrs and up until morning hours when they
> left no one had arrived to counter them. Yet, from the word go, the
> communication about the attack was all over, including social media. If
> this sounds familiar, its exactly what happened at Westgate.
>
> I don't know what school you would have gone to if after these two
> very-similiar attacks you can recommend that our terrorism problems are
> quickly sorted by using an upgraded technology network.
>
> IMO, it is time we talked the truth and called a spade a spade, starting
> with the fact that what has been recommended thus far is a white elephant
> and what we need more is more motivated & dedicated cops topped of with
> good leadership and quality intelligence.
>
> Rgds
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <
> chuksjonia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ask yourself, why did US embassy shut down before this, and why did UK
>> Embassy do the same last week?
>>
>> Did they get this information earlier?
>>
>> How did they get it?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/16/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> wrote:
>> > Phares,
>> >
>> > Even saying "...this is not a technology problem ..." can be quite the
>> > answer to the problem.
>> >
>> > One of the problems I am seeing with the recent trend is where there is
>> > this belief that once this 3G, 4G, 5G etc police network gets up, we
>> will
>> > have gotten to the root of the problem. Its the classic case of having
>> the
>> > only tool being a hammer, and no wonder the solution is Networks.
>> >
>> > IMO, you would probably get more bang for your buck if you put half of
>> the
>> > Ksh 15B budget into human intelligence i.e buying information from
>> > informants than through spending it on to getting real-time images from
>> our
>> > cities.
>> >
>> > Rgds
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Phares Kariuki via kictanet <
>> > kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm not convinced it's a technology issue, rather a lack of will. We've
>> >> got people who benefit from the lack of security (ivory trade, drugs
>> >> etc),
>> >> so the government is not incentivised to fight crime in general. What
>> the
>> >> government fails to realise is that petty crime finances larger crimes.
>> >> Al
>> >> Shabaab does not have an investment bank where they can get a
>> convertible
>> >> note to finance a terror attack, it can't really list on the NSE. They
>> >> traffic drugs, ivory etc. The solution is a thorough crack down on
>> crime
>> >> which generally tends to provide the intelligence bodies with much
>> needed
>> >> intel. We can't eat our cake and have it too. The government seems to
>> >> think
>> >> that they can have lax security policy and still somehow secure the
>> >> country.
>> >>
>> >> We additionally need to look at who is in charge of security policy.
>> It's
>> >> absurd to have someone who thinks that a crack down on tint (an illegal
>> >> crack down no less) is in charge of the police force. The individual
>> >> charged with enforcing the law does not understand or respect the law.
>> >> The
>> >> internal security minister is, frankly, clueless. We've got no cohesive
>> >> security policy.
>> >>
>> >> Crime has always been an issue. You might have technology, but it's
>> worth
>> >> precious little if it takes the armed forces 4-5 hours to respond, or
>> if
>> >> they will try and shake down the terrorist for bribes. A lot of this
>> >> technology was not there in the eighties, nineties and noughties.
>> >>
>> >> At this point, there is a shortage of police because they are busy
>> >> washing
>> >> cars in the judiciary or guarding "VIP's". There is a shortage of
>> police
>> >> cars because every "VIP" gets a chase car to ensure that they are
>> >> insulated
>> >> from their policy failures (traffic, insecurity etc). The state at this
>> >> point does not really care about the citizen and it's primary concern
>> is
>> >> extracting the citizen (corporate included) to finance rent seekers who
>> >> have no economic value. Our taxes keep increasing and because the state
>> >> has
>> >> a monopoly on violence, we are not really allowed to question how the
>> >> state
>> >> mis-uses our taxes.
>> >>
>> >> What we have is not a technology problem but rather general failure of
>> an
>> >> arm of government.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Gichuki John Chuksjonia via kictanet <
>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Kenyan Government needs to install the concept of Command, Control,
>> >>> Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and
>> >>> Reconnaissance "C4ISR", like the US and Israel did. The youth are
>> >>> capable of helping in such an initiative, and the Govt needs to use
>> >>> the youth instead of denying them projects, when we are the ones who
>> >>> know how to write applications, use computer networks to implement ICT
>> >>> Products that cant effectively and efficiently help Kenyan Security
>> >>>
>> >>> ./Chucks
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6/16/14, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Listers,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > In case you might not have heard, there has been a very serious
>> >>> > security
>> >>> > breach that has occurred in Mpeketoni, Lamu that has so far claimed
>> >>> close
>> >>> > to 50 persons.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The details on this are here
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/news/mpeketoni-Lamu-gunfire-al-shabaab-terrorism/-/1056/2349860/-/yf5qvgz/-/index.html
>> >>> >
>> >>> > To put this into context, Mpeketoni is the largest town, bar Lamu,
>> >>> between
>> >>> > the Somali Border and Malindi and the center of commercial activity
>> in
>> >>> the
>> >>> > region.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > So, as much as a lot of us might not know it, the fact that
>> Al-Shabbab
>> >>> > could drive trucks full of fighters into such a town and commit
>> these
>> >>> > crimes and then leave should send all the security-bells that we
>> have
>> >>> > ringing.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This is exactly how Boko Haram started in Nigeria and we are seeing
>> it
>> >>> > played out here right infront of us.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think its time that we spoke as the local ICT Community and came
>> up
>> >>> with
>> >>> > a stand on what in our opinion needs to be done in ICT Terms to
>> secure
>> >>> this
>> >>> > nation.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > As an example, it would actually be very irresponsible of us to let
>> a
>> >>> few
>> >>> > gentlemen to come together and tell us the solution to our current
>> >>> security
>> >>> > problems, from an ICT perspective, is a police network deal that
>> >>> > largely
>> >>> > puts CCTV Cameras in Nairobi & Mombasa, when maybe nothing is being
>> >>> spent
>> >>> > to secure our porous borders as well as actual on-the-ground
>> >>> intelligence
>> >>> > collection.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > We could send this as a proposal to the powers that be as well as
>> the
>> >>> > parliamentary ICT Committee and hope, nay, push, until something
>> gets
>> >>> done.
>> >>> > The way I see this working is, we draft a document, brief and simple
>> >>> with
>> >>> > what our recommendations are, then Listers can comment on it. If
>> >>> > largely
>> >>> > agreeable, we send it to the powers that be.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Let me now what your thoughts are, and we could see what we can do
>> >>> > about
>> >>> > this.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > *Regards,*
>> >>> >
>> >>> > *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>> >>> > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
>> >>> > Building
>> >>> > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254
>> >>> 737 811
>> >>> > 000
>> >>> > www.at.co.ke
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> --
>> >>> Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
>> >>> I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
>> >>> jgichuki at inbox d0t com
>> >>>
>> >>> {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
>> >>> http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> kictanet mailing list
>> >>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> >>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>> >>>
>> >>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>> >>>
>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/pkariuki%40gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder
>> platform
>> >>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> >>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the
>> ICT
>> >>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>> >>> development.
>> >>>
>> >>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> >>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>> >>> bandwidth,
>> >>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy,
>> >>> do
>> >>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Warm Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Phares Kariuki
>> >>
>> >> *E*: pkariuki at gmail.com | *Twitter*: kaboro |* Skype*: kariukiphares |
>> >> *B*
>> >> : http://www.kaboro.com/ |
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> kictanet mailing list
>> >> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>> >>
>> >> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>> >> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ngigi%40at.co.ke
>> >>
>> >> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>> >> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> >> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> >> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and
>> >> development.
>> >>
>> >> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> >> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and
>> >> bandwidth,
>> >> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy,
>> do
>> >> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > *Regards,*
>> >
>> > *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>> > Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
>> > Building
>> > T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737
>> 811
>> > 000
>> > www.at.co.ke
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Gichuki John Ndirangu, C.E.H , C.P.T.P, O.S.C.P
>> I.T Security Analyst and Penetration Tester
>> jgichuki at inbox d0t com
>>
>> {FORUM}http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/security/
>> http://chuksjonia.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *Regards,*
>
> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
> Building
> T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737
> 811 000
> www.at.co.ke
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> kictanet mailing list
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
>
> Unsubscribe or change your options at
> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/adam%40varud.com
>
> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>
> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20140616/3f955d32/attachment.htm>