[kictanet] Beba Pay card and national biometric registration: The big brother syndrome

Tue Jul 15 10:58:25 EAT 2014

Guys lets get serious. If the government wants to know where you are and
track you they will do it without help from a metro card. Your phone no,
Bank account, workplace, residence are all easily available to a well oiled
government agency.

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Mark, this looks very similar to the London Oyster card which is RFID
> based. I presume there are many card systems in London but the Oyster
> is most popular. Registration of the card is not mandatory but as from
> July, you cannot travel on the Overground bus network with cash. The
> card costs £5 and you prepay upto around £90. They have many packages
> in the card like Student pass, pay as you go, freedom pass, weekly
> pass, monthly pass E.t.c. each with different discount options.
>
> The card is valid on the National Rail, underground, overground,
> trams, and river services, with substantial cheaper fares than paying
> cash. It is estimated that 99% of Londoners use this card to travel.
>
> Registration of the card has the added advantage of protection from
> loss. Imagine losing a card with £90 which is the maximum you can load
> on the Oyster.
>
> What I find interesting thought is the Freedom pass on the Oyster card
> given to people over 65years or the disabled to act as a free travel
> pass.
>
> On 13/07/2014, Mark Elkins via kictanet <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> wrote:
> > In South Africa, in order to use the Gautrain, you need to purchase a
> > Gautrain Card and then put credit on it.
> >
> > The Card itself is about R10 ($1). It contains no personal ID
> > information. However, I presume a fair number of people add credit
> > straight from their Credit Card... so it's technically possible to track
> > the Identity of the Card to the person who buys the credit. The same
> > Gautrain card is also used to enter/exit the railway parking garages. No
> > idea if cameras are used in the transaction. (The parking Entry/Exit
> > camera's at OT Airport *do* record your car registration - so the entry
> > ticket number plate has to match the same registration plates on exit -
> > ie Number Plate recognition is in use.)
> >
> > Anyway - the Gautrain is technically Cashless - except "recharge"
> > systems are available to top up your cards at the station entrance.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2014-07-13 at 09:31 +0000, Grace Githaiga via kictanet wrote:
> >> Let's start with the much hyped "beba pay" system. Having travelled
> >> numerously to America, Canada, South Africa and a few countries in
> >> Europe, I must inform Kenyans that they have been duped. No country in
> >> the world has imposed restrictions on their citizens using cash money
> >> to pay for transport services.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Track your every move
> >>
> >>
> >> The only thing that is done with regard to enforcing the use of cards
> >> is that special discounts are offered to those who pay using their
> >> cards.
> >>
> >>
> >> The truth is that the government will track your every move from now
> >> henceforth since all the cards are connected to a central data base
> >> system. What if some corrupt government official sells the said
> >> information to thugs; will they not be able to track your every move?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Beba-Pay-card-and-national-biometric-registration/-/440808/2381900/-/12latj2/-/index.html
> >>
> >>
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