[kictanet] Kenyanization and its affect on startups

Tue Jan 14 12:54:44 EAT 2014

+1 James.

However, I think Adam has a valid point. I have come across many Americans and Europeans (at least 10) who are setting up Startups in the financial Services space focused on mobile applications that have opted to set up in Nairobi because of its Silicon Savanna hype. This can only auger well for the industry because we can only get better with when we have a truly global playing space in the ihubs of the country. There needs to be a serious effort to ensure we sieve through the quacks from the serious players.  

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> On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:27 PM, James Mbugua <jgmbugua at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Adam,
> 
> The Kenyan immigration regime is no worse than the American or UK one, and unlike those countries we also host the absolutely largest refugee camps in the world and Sudanese inflow into Kakuma could make them even larger.
> 
> Like you point out, there is a large educated population here which also means, there are many areas where foreign expertise is not needed. You won't get an H1 visa to the US to become a marketer or journalist.
> 
> What I suspect is happening is that there is a process underway to root our quacks who come in with all manner of stories of what they can do and get work permits to perform duties Kenyans can perform.
> 
> It is true that genuine investors should not be harassed but corruption at immigration has been such that no one knows who came in legitimately or not. Granted the right forum, I'm sure an entrepreneur can demonstrate this value addition and get his permit but I am almost willing to be you that 75% of the affected will be in the NGO/INGO sector. These are the true targets of the tightened regime.
> 
> James
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> I was recently reading this form for a work permit for non-Kenyans:
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>> http://www.immigration.go.ke/images/downloads/form22.pdf
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>> I think this single form sums up why Kenyan companies thus far haven't been able to be pan-African, let alone global powerhouses.
>> 
>> Aside from the glaring omission of anybody being non-European, non-African and non-Asian (i.e. everybody from North and South America), I noticed that the underlying thrust of the document is to make sure all companies located in Kenya are geared towards becoming more Kenyan (except of course, all the international non-governmental and diplomatic organizations which bypass this whole process).
>> 
>> It seems like GoK (or most of it anyway) doesn't understand that every country has to choose indiginezation of its domestic industrial sector OR allowing its industrial base to compete at a global level.  Indiginization can work in countries like Saudi Arabia where the focus is purely on resource extraction and not on building global companies - but it doesn't seem like Kenya is on that path.  Kenya seems to me to be a place of commerce where it can really take advantage of trade with other countries much like Singapore, Hong Kong, Thailand, etc... have done in South East Asia.
>> 
>> You'll notice that the largest Kenyan bank is KCB as the 59th largest bank in Africa.  Who knows how small KCB is when compared to the global field.  
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>> http://www.theafricareport.com/Top-200-Banks/top-200-banks-2013.html
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>> There is no natural reason for Kenyan banks to be so low on the list.  Kenya is one of the major economies on the continent, it has an educated work force, it has a large domestic market with which to nurture companies - yet there is no way for a Kenyan company to scale because of the insularity of the immigration regime.
>> 
>> Is there any impetus within the government to address this problem?  I'm concerned about what my plan B is as a startup trying to be pan-African with a headquarters in Nairobi.  When I first moved to Nairobi, I thought this was a global city like New York where I had worked with Indians, Swedes, Burmese, Brazilians, Americans.  
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>> Here I'm friends with people from all over the world but they all work for the UN and their employers bypass the GoK which otherwise fights so hard to keep foreigners from working and building businesses here.
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>> Is there a solution or is it just going to get worse?  People I've spoken to say 'come to Rwanda' or 'come to Mauritius' or even 'come to Ghana' .... can a company have a headquarters in Kenya and run a tech company with pan-African and global ambitions?
>> 
>> I've posted this on my blog (http://varud.com/kenyanization-and-its-affect-on-startups) but I thought I would solicit opinions here.
>> 
>> -Adam
>> 
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