[kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG

Tue Aug 26 15:46:19 EAT 2014

I am with Phares on this one. We may start as shitty but hey. Look at where
cloud was 10 years back in the US. Everyone starts somewhere. And we need
to start that somewhere to get to the point where we eventually desire to
get.

Theres always a good and humble story behind how the tech scene in Kenya
came into existance. We need to build that good story with infrustructure
ourselves.
On 26 Aug 2014 11:57, "Mark Mwangi via kictanet" <
kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> I do not like the idea of using spectrum which is a rather limited
> resource as opposed to physical media such as fiber.
>
> There has been talk of using white space technology for broadband in far
> flung rural areas that don't have access to the grid. This is fine as fiber
> without mains power is not so brilliant.
>
> I would however rather have every house supplied with electricity also
> have a fiber end point dropped into the house. This would be maintained by
> either the power company or a certified contractor. The details are not
> important to me but the point is that every house connected to the national
> grid also be connected to dark or live fiber, whether they have a use of it
> or not.
>
> This sounds wasteful on the onset but what does it really cost to pull a
> fiber cable alongside the power cables? How much more expensive is it to
> add a junction box (I am no telecommunication engineer this is what I
> assume the black thing from whence my zuku comes from is) next to the
> transformers?
>
> I hazard an educated guest that if you asked guys in Umoja,Woodley,
> Nanyuki Eldoret etc if they would want cable TV at an affordable cost and
> blazing fast internet to download movies or whatever the answer would be a
> yes. They right now are forced to look for a mobile Broadband modem that is
> not built for such heavy bandwidth hungry stuff.
>
> REA are doing a great job connecting 'Mashinani' to electricity and I
> would think this would have been an awesome opportunity to test this out
> but alas.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Well depends on what high speeds are. Remember 1 Mbps as offered by 3G is
>> already defined as broadband, but may not offer the latency you need.
>>  On 25 Aug 2014 19:55, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> I am very tempted to Google this, but will go old-skool on this one.
>>>
>>> I know you could have a low speed - low latency network, but can you
>>> have a high speed - high latency network?
>>>
>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>
>>> Alliance Technologies
>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>
>>> www.A1.io
>>> On 25 Aug 2014 18:41, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But 4G is not only about higher speeds, but lower latencies too.
>>>> Therefore applications that require low latency might find 4G to be of
>>>> benefit on that front.
>>>> On 25 Aug 2014 16:56, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be most welcome if having 4G will lower data prices. Then
>>>>> again, I doubt the number of users who require 4G is that significant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 August 2014 16:52, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am an advocate for tech all the way but would first ask why all the
>>>>>> fuss with 4G? Have we maxed out the 3G bandwidth and have we put in place
>>>>>> enough fiber to the building already in existence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This rush for the newest and the greatest tech is not after solving
>>>>>> problems but earning the likes of Huawei money with little value.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that Safaricom faced similar questions when launching 3G
>>>>>> and are currently the only one testing 4G and so I may eat my words soon
>>>>>> enough. I still think we should be laying more fiber to homes and offices
>>>>>> rather than fight for spectrum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenyans are known for their 11th-hour (in)decisions/actions. You
>>>>>>> better start thinking & behaving like one:)
>>>>>>> CAK is doing the right thing, but bedevilled by political forces in
>>>>>>> the bg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 August 2014 15:36, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems that CAK is trying to do the right thing but I can't tell
>>>>>>>> if they have weak lawyers or if the court is just confused or if the
>>>>>>>> rights-holders of the analog spectrum really are being violated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But while we wait, other countries in the region are moving
>>>>>>>> forward.  The big problem is that LTE deployment (and digital-only
>>>>>>>> terrestrial TV) takes time and the longer we wait for the start, the
>>>>>>>> further away we are from getting meaningful value out of the transition
>>>>>>>> moving ahead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I figured somebody on this list would have the  latest update.
>>>>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>>>>> True that Adam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only problem is that the Gava /Regulator folks have gone awfully
>>>>>>>>> quiet in recent times..even our ever-ready Wambua of the CCK fame has not
>>>>>>>>> said anything since they became CAK :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps since since we have sued them left, right and center,
>>>>>>>>> they are unable to comment on matters before the Bench (it can always be
>>>>>>>>> used against you).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> walu.
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Subject: [kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG
>>>>>>>>>  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>  Date: Monday, August 25, 2014, 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Looks like Rwanda is
>>>>>>>>>  about to launch LTE:
>>>>>>>>>  http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15825&a=79508
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Any updates on Kenya?  Aside from Burundi, Kenya
>>>>>>>>>  looks set to be the last to launch the service in the East
>>>>>>>>>  African Community.
>>>>>>>>>  The last I heard, the Supreme Court blocked the
>>>>>>>>>  disabling of the analog signals which need to be shut down
>>>>>>>>>  in order to free up spectrum.  In addition, KDF has alot of
>>>>>>>>>  spectrum that they've been holding onto as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I figured somebody on this list would have the
>>>>>>>>>  latest update.
>>>>>>>>>  -Adam
>>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>>>>  Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>>>>  Musings: twitter.com/varud
>>>>>>>>>  More
>>>>>>>>>  Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> markmwangi.me.ke
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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