[kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG

Tue Aug 26 10:28:55 EAT 2014

Ali,

Totally know where you're coming from.  But that's the whole point of
infrastructure as a service.  For instance:

Kili has a status page: http://status.kili.io/
Kili allows users to pay via credit/debit card or Mpesa
Kili has 24/7 support and customer service is much more speedy than with AWS
Kili allows users to spin up instances within 5 minutes of signing up (no
need to talk to a human)
Kili uses standard APIs (the same as Rackspace)
Kili has better in-region performance (i.e. no throttling by Zuku/JTL so
your customers get full speed access to the app)
Kili has strong enterprise capabilities (i.e. for disaster recovery or
branch network applications in-region)
Kili has the same instance startup method as AWS so no more difficult to
use than them

The real deficiency we have is that we are only in one data center and
therefore users can't put all of their data on Kili without replicating
data offsite like they could with Amazon's S3 or Glacier.  However, I will
bet that nobody on this list is using Amazon's S3/Glacier along with a
multiple Availability Zone architecture to give them very high data
durability to the point where they have no data outside of AWS.  Doing so
typically requires a company doing at least $10MM in revenue through the
system to bother with the complexity of that architecture.

-Adam

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Adam
>
> I know you are doing your best..:) You get my point. For me Technology is
> not the issue - ease of use, Customer Service, Idiot Proof functionality
> (Yes!) is what will move our services to the global arena - Mpesa Style!
>
> *Ali Hussein*
>
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> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
> have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 26, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>
> @ali
>
> I'm glad you called us out on it - it's true that there is no cloud
> provider anywhere in Africa with a global calibre QoS - Kili included.
>  It's a big problem for Africa as it puts all product-focused companies and
> government agencies at a distinct disadvantage to the rest of the world
> where they have this technology available locally.
>
> I'm a big fan of AWS and used to spend $20k+/month on their product.
>  Nonetheless, using Kili (or another local cloud) as a complementary
> solution to something like Amazon or Rackspace should be pretty
> straightforward for most tech groups in Kenya.  Then you get the best of
> both worlds - high performance for your end users (Kili for your static
> assets and last mile application code) and support that you can only get
> from a billion dollar company (AWS for your core data).
>
> -Adam
>
> --
> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
> More Musings: varud.com
> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
>> Adam
>>
>> You know that I'm an avid advocate of hosting all our content locally
>> (and it's not just because of security issues) :) because of the obvious
>> advantages of speeds, cost reductions in connectivity for end users etc.
>>
>> I'm however not convinced that the industry is there yet. The thing about
>> the NET is that we can't claim to say because its an African product we can
>> accept mediocre standards. Sorry to be harsh about this but the day I can
>> get the same QoS as I'm used to with Rackspace, Google Cloud, Amazon Web
>> Services etc is the day I will move all my hosting business locally. I give
>> you my word on it and I'm willing to be challenged on this.
>>
>> Lets put our money where our mouths are and develop World Class Services.
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>>
>> +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
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>>
>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>
>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will
>> have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, and the latency is very important for application performance.
>>  Don't forget, it's not just smartphones on 4g, it's desktops, Internet of
>> Things, etc.
>>
>> With that said, most applications used by Kenyans (even The Nation) are
>> hosted in Europe.  The latency of 3G is lower than the latency between
>> Nairobi and London over cable.  So more benefits can come from simply
>> moving applications local than from deploying 4g - but they both need to
>> happen.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>> On Monday, August 25, 2014, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> I am very tempted to Google this, but will go old-skool on this one.
>>>
>>> I know you could have a low speed - low latency network, but can you
>>> have a high speed - high latency network?
>>>
>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>
>>> Alliance Technologies
>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>
>>> www.A1.io
>>> On 25 Aug 2014 18:41, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But 4G is not only about higher speeds, but lower latencies too.
>>>> Therefore applications that require low latency might find 4G to be of
>>>> benefit on that front.
>>>> On 25 Aug 2014 16:56, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be most welcome if having 4G will lower data prices. Then
>>>>> again, I doubt the number of users who require 4G is that significant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 August 2014 16:52, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am an advocate for tech all the way but would first ask why all the
>>>>>> fuss with 4G? Have we maxed out the 3G bandwidth and have we put in place
>>>>>> enough fiber to the building already in existence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This rush for the newest and the greatest tech is not after solving
>>>>>> problems but earning the likes of Huawei money with little value.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that Safaricom faced similar questions when launching 3G
>>>>>> and are currently the only one testing 4G and so I may eat my words soon
>>>>>> enough. I still think we should be laying more fiber to homes and offices
>>>>>> rather than fight for spectrum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kenyans are known for their 11th-hour (in)decisions/actions. You
>>>>>>> better start thinking & behaving like one:)
>>>>>>> CAK is doing the right thing, but bedevilled by political forces in
>>>>>>> the bg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 August 2014 15:36, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems that CAK is trying to do the right thing but I can't tell
>>>>>>>> if they have weak lawyers or if the court is just confused or if the
>>>>>>>> rights-holders of the analog spectrum really are being violated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But while we wait, other countries in the region are moving
>>>>>>>> forward.  The big problem is that LTE deployment (and digital-only
>>>>>>>> terrestrial TV) takes time and the longer we wait for the start, the
>>>>>>>> further away we are from getting meaningful value out of the transition
>>>>>>>> moving ahead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I figured somebody on this list would have the  latest update.
>>>>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>>>>> True that Adam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only problem is that the Gava /Regulator folks have gone awfully
>>>>>>>>> quiet in recent times..even our ever-ready Wambua of the CCK fame has not
>>>>>>>>> said anything since they became CAK :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or perhaps since since we have sued them left, right and center,
>>>>>>>>> they are unable to comment on matters before the Bench (it can always be
>>>>>>>>> used against you).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> walu.
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Subject: [kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG
>>>>>>>>>  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>  Date: Monday, August 25, 2014, 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Looks like Rwanda is
>>>>>>>>>  about to launch LTE:
>>>>>>>>>  http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15825&a=79508
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Any updates on Kenya?  Aside from Burundi, Kenya
>>>>>>>>>  looks set to be the last to launch the service in the East
>>>>>>>>>  African Community.
>>>>>>>>>  The last I heard, the Supreme Court blocked the
>>>>>>>>>  disabling of the analog signals which need to be shut down
>>>>>>>>>  in order to free up spectrum.  In addition, KDF has alot of
>>>>>>>>>  spectrum that they've been holding onto as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I figured somebody on this list would have the
>>>>>>>>>  latest update.
>>>>>>>>>  -Adam
>>>>>>>>>  --
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>>>>>>>>>  Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> markmwangi.me.ke
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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