[kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG

Tue Aug 26 10:02:57 EAT 2014

@ali

I'm glad you called us out on it - it's true that there is no cloud
provider anywhere in Africa with a global calibre QoS - Kili included.
 It's a big problem for Africa as it puts all product-focused companies and
government agencies at a distinct disadvantage to the rest of the world
where they have this technology available locally.

I'm a big fan of AWS and used to spend $20k+/month on their product.
 Nonetheless, using Kili (or another local cloud) as a complementary
solution to something like Amazon or Rackspace should be pretty
straightforward for most tech groups in Kenya.  Then you get the best of
both worlds - high performance for your end users (Kili for your static
assets and last mile application code) and support that you can only get
from a billion dollar company (AWS for your core data).

-Adam

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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Adam
>
> You know that I'm an avid advocate of hosting all our content locally (and
> it's not just because of security issues) :) because of the obvious
> advantages of speeds, cost reductions in connectivity for end users etc.
>
> I'm however not convinced that the industry is there yet. The thing about
> the NET is that we can't claim to say because its an African product we can
> accept mediocre standards. Sorry to be harsh about this but the day I can
> get the same QoS as I'm used to with Rackspace, Google Cloud, Amazon Web
> Services etc is the day I will move all my hosting business locally. I give
> you my word on it and I'm willing to be challenged on this.
>
> Lets put our money where our mouths are and develop World Class Services.
>
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>
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> have a generation of idiots".  ~ Albert Einstein
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> On Aug 26, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Yes, and the latency is very important for application performance.  Don't
> forget, it's not just smartphones on 4g, it's desktops, Internet of Things,
> etc.
>
> With that said, most applications used by Kenyans (even The Nation) are
> hosted in Europe.  The latency of 3G is lower than the latency between
> Nairobi and London over cable.  So more benefits can come from simply
> moving applications local than from deploying 4g - but they both need to
> happen.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Monday, August 25, 2014, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> I am very tempted to Google this, but will go old-skool on this one.
>>
>> I know you could have a low speed - low latency network, but can you have
>> a high speed - high latency network?
>>
>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>
>> Alliance Technologies
>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>
>> www.A1.io
>> On 25 Aug 2014 18:41, "Dennis Kioko via kictanet" <
>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> But 4G is not only about higher speeds, but lower latencies too.
>>> Therefore applications that require low latency might find 4G to be of
>>> benefit on that front.
>>> On 25 Aug 2014 16:56, "Odhiambo Washington via kictanet" <
>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be most welcome if having 4G will lower data prices. Then
>>>> again, I doubt the number of users who require 4G is that significant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 August 2014 16:52, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am an advocate for tech all the way but would first ask why all the
>>>>> fuss with 4G? Have we maxed out the 3G bandwidth and have we put in place
>>>>> enough fiber to the building already in existence?
>>>>>
>>>>> This rush for the newest and the greatest tech is not after solving
>>>>> problems but earning the likes of Huawei money with little value.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that Safaricom faced similar questions when launching 3G
>>>>> and are currently the only one testing 4G and so I may eat my words soon
>>>>> enough. I still think we should be laying more fiber to homes and offices
>>>>> rather than fight for spectrum.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kenyans are known for their 11th-hour (in)decisions/actions. You
>>>>>> better start thinking & behaving like one:)
>>>>>> CAK is doing the right thing, but bedevilled by political forces in
>>>>>> the bg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 August 2014 15:36, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems that CAK is trying to do the right thing but I can't tell
>>>>>>> if they have weak lawyers or if the court is just confused or if the
>>>>>>> rights-holders of the analog spectrum really are being violated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But while we wait, other countries in the region are moving forward.
>>>>>>>  The big problem is that LTE deployment (and digital-only terrestrial TV)
>>>>>>> takes time and the longer we wait for the start, the further away we are
>>>>>>> from getting meaningful value out of the transition moving ahead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Kili - Cloud for Africa: kili.io
>>>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>>>> More Musings: varud.com
>>>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I figured somebody on this list would have the  latest update.
>>>>>>>> ~~~~
>>>>>>>> True that Adam.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only problem is that the Gava /Regulator folks have gone awfully
>>>>>>>> quiet in recent times..even our ever-ready Wambua of the CCK fame has not
>>>>>>>> said anything since they became CAK :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or perhaps since since we have sued them left, right and center,
>>>>>>>> they are unable to comment on matters before the Bench (it can always be
>>>>>>>> used against you).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> walu.
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 8/25/14, Adam Nelson via kictanet <
>>>>>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Subject: [kictanet] LTE in Rwanda, TZ, UG
>>>>>>>>  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>  Date: Monday, August 25, 2014, 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Looks like Rwanda is
>>>>>>>>  about to launch LTE:
>>>>>>>>  http://www.newtimes.co.rw/news/index.php?i=15825&a=79508
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Any updates on Kenya?  Aside from Burundi, Kenya
>>>>>>>>  looks set to be the last to launch the service in the East
>>>>>>>>  African Community.
>>>>>>>>  The last I heard, the Supreme Court blocked the
>>>>>>>>  disabling of the analog signals which need to be shut down
>>>>>>>>  in order to free up spectrum.  In addition, KDF has alot of
>>>>>>>>  spectrum that they've been holding onto as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I figured somebody on this list would have the
>>>>>>>>  latest update.
>>>>>>>>  -Adam
>>>>>>>>  --
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>>>>>>>>  Musings: varud.comAbout Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
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>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Mwangi
>>>>>
>>>>> markmwangi.me.ke
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
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