[kictanet] State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of Kenyans

Mon Aug 18 10:22:35 EAT 2014

Muraya,

Anyone can share their face (pics) on Facebook but I don't think you would
your Iris & fingerprint scans as well as your DNA.

Those we can't just give away to someone who has been proven inept in
keeping data safe.

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:18 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Haha...  Facebook already has much of our "Biometric" Data (which will
> always be hacked as all systems are) , so I am less concerned about our
> government building such a database.
>
>
> http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/08/fbi-may-seek-facebook-data-for-facial-recognition
>
> They key is tracing/dealing with whoever hacks or leaks our data.
>
> It is crazy to trust foreigners with such work, with travel advisories
> scaring expert/expats away plus Africans not being too welcome outside
> Africa,  with our Ebola and all :)
> On Aug 18, 2014 9:46 AM, "Ngigi Waithaka" <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> Muraya,
>>
>> I am actually very very concerned to let our government store *ALL MY*
>> biometrics in a digital form.
>>
>> The problem with Biometrics is that if there is a breach of that
>> database, and in our case here, there most likely will be given GoK's
>> lackadaisical attitude towards digital security, you cannot tell the user
>> to simply *change their passwords* as you are born with your Biometrics and
>> you live with them for life.
>>
>> If the Government needs to store Biometrics, we should lobby they only
>> keep the left-hand thumbprint, so if that's stolen, and it will be stolen,
>> I have 9 other fingers reserved for our other personal biometric uses.
>>
>> Fast forward to modern world, Bioemtrics devices are as ubiquitous as
>> Keyboards, infact employing a Biometric Systems nowdays even for HR
>> purposes is almost a trivial thing to do.
>>
>> Every operating platform today has a credible biometric engine, just
>> waiting for developers to take use them, so why do we have to get a firm to
>> implement this for us, while we can very easily do this locally?
>>
>> The answer, yet again, lies in that Ksh 9B
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:28 AM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The reason we carry out customized developer training is to identify
>>> upcoming talent/team players.
>>>
>>> How many local firms did they interview before deciding to entrust
>>> foreigners with such a system..
>>>
>>> Through the treasury, the concerned Department/Service, could even
>>> borrow directly from counties.
>>>
>>> Some counties may be willing to earn some interest/skills by loaning
>>> funds to such projects
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>
>>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
>>> who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi at at.co.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is interesting,  why?
>>>>
>>>> 1. PPPs should be guided by an open and transparent process where GoK
>>>> advertises for those with intent to partner to apply.
>>>> This didn't happen.
>>>>
>>>> 2. If there is no competition, how do we ensure we are getting value
>>>> for money?
>>>>
>>>> 3. Whatever happened to building some of these solutions locally. Yet
>>>> another 1000 software engineers jobs we have exported to Israel to help
>>>> them build more bombs to break up Gaza!
>>>>
>>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>>>
>>>> Alliance Technologies
>>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>
>>>> www.A1.io
>>>> On 17 Aug 2014 01:04, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" <
>>>> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not sure why we need Israelis to build this database for Kenya. They
>>>>> could guide/train us but it is not for non Kenyans to lead its development
>>>>> and management.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Online-Database-Technology-Public-Servants-Profile/-/996/2421390/-/svf5fw/-/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenyan State to partner with Israeli firm to create online database of
>>>>> Kenyans
>>>>>
>>>>> Note comments made in 2009.....
>>>>>
>>>>> *Israel Poised To Pass National I.D. Database Law*
>>>>>
>>>>> By Nathan Jeffay
>>>>>
>>>>> Published August 12, 2009, issue of August 21, 2009.
>>>>>
>>>>> HAIFA, ISRAEL — Israel may become the only democratic country to take
>>>>> biometric information from all citizens and store it in a database.
>>>>>
>>>>> The plan, approved by a Knesset committee and set for a final vote in
>>>>> the fall, is expected to pass easily, as the largest opposition party and
>>>>> the government support the bill. But that apparently won’t prevent outraged
>>>>> human rights organizations, academics and grass-roots activists from
>>>>> spending the rest of the summer protesting the plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Champions of the database say it is crucial for Israel’s security.
>>>>> “The danger to the state in the present situation, in which there is no
>>>>> database of biometric information, is critical,” according to Kadima
>>>>> lawmaker Meir Sheetrit, who drafted the bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> But opponents say that it actually will jeopardize security. “If such
>>>>> a database gets in the hands of a foreign country or terrorist
>>>>> organization, they will be able to identify any Israeli anywhere by their
>>>>> fingerprints or their picture,” claimed computer security expert Eli Biham,
>>>>> dean of computer science at Israel’s leading high-tech research
>>>>> institution, the Haifa-based Technion – Israel Institute of Technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read more:
>>>>> http://forward.com/articles/112033/israel-poised-to-pass-national-id-database-law/#ixzz3AavDDUx5
>>>>>
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>> --
>> *Regards,*
>>
>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
>> Building
>> T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737
>> 811 000
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-- 
*Regards,*

*Wait**haka Ngigi*
Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building
T + 254 (0) 20 2333 471 |Office Mobile: +254 786 28 28 28 | M + 254 737 811
000
www.at.co.ke
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