[kictanet] Incompetence gallore--Offer solutions.

Wed Sep 25 18:03:53 EAT 2013

Grace

I love your post.

Re Saudi newspaper position: If the Saudis would stop exporting Wahabism,
there would be neither al qaeda nor al shabaab.

Nuff said.

Warigia

On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, John Masiwe <jmasiwe at bluegate.co.ke> wrote:

> @Grace, ****
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> Very well said.****
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> @Adam,****
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> Let us not be people who proudly proclaim our Kenyan-ness when the land
> and its people are benefitting us and immediately claim other nationalities
> when things go awry. Kenya is what it is, warts and all; corruption, is
> unfortunately a way of life here. It will take a lot to eliminate the
> culture. Your actions are a start (though don’t you think talking yourself
> out of a ticket is also a form of corruption even though not of the
> pecuniary type?J). ****
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> In these trying times, let us not extricate ourselves from previously
> proclaimed Kenyan-ness and embrace our nationalities and “how well governed
> Rwanda” is.  Nairobi could certainly do a lot better but it is also a
> burgeoning metropolis grappling with attendant challenges. It definitely
> has a much higher ranking internationally than its African peers.****
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> *From:* kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+jmasiwe=
> bluegate.co.ke at lists.kictanet.or.ke] *On Behalf Of *Grace Githaiga
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:28 AM
> *To:* jmasiwe at bluegate.co.ke
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> *Cc:* kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Incompetence gallore--Offer solutions.****
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> I agree with Yawe!  Let us not loose the opportunity to suggest solutions
> because this may not be the last time that we are seeing this sort of
> senseless attack. ****
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> People, we will exhaust ourselves with blame! Can we for once imagine the
> difficulty of the circumstances in which our security were working? Do we
> for example have an idea  of the countless such raids that have either been
> foiled or minimized? I remember there was an alert that shopping malls
> would be attacked. Was this  like two years ago? People, let us remember
> that even in the highly secured cctv'd and over-resourced US, gunmen still
> walk into nursery schools and cinema halls and randomly shoot everyone.Seriously, how is one expected to predict the actions of mad men and a
> woman? And like a friend of mine has asked me “who would have known that a
> four year old boy calling a gunman "a bad man" in his face would halt his
> shooting, produce please of forgiveness from the gunmen, free passage for
> the boy, sister and mother and even more, the departing gift of Mars bars
> for the kids from the gunman?”****
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> As we heap tons and tons of blame, let us  remember that  just as a doctor
> losses a patient/botches up a surgery or an editor runs with a graphic lead
> photo thinking he is telling the "real" story rather than repulsing his
> readers - there will always be unfortunate lapses, errors of judgement and
> plain blunders even in a security intelligence job. What solutions are we
> offering? We need to move from 'if only' to solutions of preparedness. ***
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> Solutions, solutions and more solutions! ****
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> Rgds****
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> Grace****
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> From: dmbuvi at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:18:08 -0700
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Incompetence gallore
> CC: kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke
> To: ggithaiga at hotmail.com****
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> A Standard article explains how disorderly and dangerous the operation
> was, Kenyans troops killed each other, and endangered the lives of hostages
> in a haphazard operation.
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> The familiar shoot to kill order was given out http://t.co/M5tJ67KcPk
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> *From: *robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk>
> *Sent: *25/09/2013 08:29
> *To: *Dennis Kioko Mbuvi <dmbuvi at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Subject: *[kictanet] Incompetence gallore****
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> Editorial from a Saudi Paper ****
> **·         **Something wrong in Kenya
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> There can be no denying the extraordinary challenges facing the Kenyan
> government. Yet as the last terrorists were being rooted out of Nairobi’s
> Westgate shopping mall at the end of a slaughter spree that has killed some
> 70 people and injured hundreds more, the Kenyan authorities need to be
> asking themselves some hard questions.
>
> This is a country which because it is actively involved in combating
> Al-Shabab terrorists in Somalia is supposed to be on the very highest state
> of alert. Kenya did not choose this confrontation. In 1998 it was an
> amiably corrupt and easygoing country with merely a nasty record of armed
> robberies, mostly of rich Western tourists.
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> Then Al-Qaeda launched one of its very first international attacks, a
> deadly assault on the US embassy in the Kenyan capital which left 224
> people dead the great majority of them Kenyans. Thereafter, there was a
> succession of small attacks by the Al-Qaeda-linked Al-Shabab which
> culminated in raids on Kenyan coastal tourist resorts and a Somali refugee
> camp, targeting and kidnapping foreigners.
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> It was the final straw. Nairobi sent troops into Somali striking Al-Shabab
> fighters in the rear as they were pressed from the north by African Union
> forces. Thereafter, the terrorists resorted to low-level violence, mostly
> hit and run grenade attacks across the Somali border, until the attack by
> some 15 heavily armed men on the supposedly well-guarded up-market Westgate
> shopping center. The attackers managed to negotiate their way with all
> their weaponry through the capital’s roadblocks. They contrived to organize
> their deadly assault without the Kenyan intelligence services picking up
> the slightest inkling of what was about to happen.
>
> Something has got to be wrong somewhere. And the closer one looks at the
> way the tragic events unfolded, the more difficult questions it seems that
> the Kenyan authorities have to answer. Why for instance did it take almost
> half an hour for the first properly armed and equipped teams to arrive at
> the shopping mall? Why was there no proper building evacuation scheme nor
> any obvious plan to respond to a terrorist outrage within the complex?
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> Acts of bravery by shopping center staff, individual police officers and
> ordinary members of the public cannot mask what appears to have been a
> series of bungles by all those who should have been responsible for the
> safety of the complex and its visitors. Journalists noted that when
> heavily-armed special forces arrived, some seemed nervous and confused,
> perhaps as a result of the shouting that could be heard from senior
> officers who themselves seemed poorly briefed and unprepared and as a
> result unsure of how best to proceed. The inevitable report into this
> horrific event may find that by delaying a rapid and firm response to the
> attack, the authorities permitted the terrorists to continue their killing
> spree and also allowed them to consolidate their position within the mall.
>
> Perhaps a clue to what went so disastrously wrong at the Westgate mall can
> be found in the devastating fire at Nairobi’s Jomo Kenyatta International
> Airport last month. Though the blaze broke out in the early morning,
> meaning no one was killed, the extent of the fire and the extraordinary
> delays in getting fire appliances to the scene raised major questions about
> the competence of the Kenyan authorities. The Westgate tragedy must
> compound these serious concerns.****
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