[kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa.

Sat Oct 19 18:06:51 EAT 2013

@Dr. Zaipuna,

I can tell you are a true scholar from your consistent and persistent approach :-).   Defining and agreeing on what is Broadband Internet is indeed the first step to harmonizing research in this domain.  

Again, ITU (apologies for quoting what appears to be a discredited ITU*) in the same publication observes that Broadband meant different things across the 200 economies /countries sampled. With the observation that only 30% of the world giving its definition of broadband as a minimum link of 2Mbit/s - the rest advertising it as below this figure.

The situation gets murkier when ITU observes that the said broadband service can be offered over fixed-line(fiber/copper), fixed broadband(wireless), mobile broadband (GSM) amongst others.  To harmonize its ranking, ITU takes a re-calculated price of  1Mbits/s Fixed broadband (wireless) across the economies. 

It further notes that in Africa, Mobile broadband is more common and provides another ranking based on 500MB and 1GB data bundles per month - of which East Africa is still at the bottom quarter of the food chain in terms of affordability :-) . Obviously data bundles (Volume based and caped) vs 1Mb/s "unlimited data" per month can spawn an entirely new debate within the context of broadband quality...and perhaps outside the scope of the esteemed Listers here.

As for WSIS targets, they look fine BUT again they must be normalized accross economies. Kenya may for example connect 20 of its 40Universities to the Internet while say Uganda connects say only 15Univerisities. However, if Uganda has a total of 15Universities, it will have connected 100% of its Universities while Kenya  will have connected only 50% of its universities :-)

Finally, plse share the actual Research ICT Africa report. What you shared was a comprehensive newspaper article on the same but am sure it missed other details (methodology, sample size, margin of error, etc) which could be useful to me.

walu.
*Disclosure: I have disagreed with ITU on several issues but on Telecommunication, I am yet to come across another agency with a such a global experience and reach in telco data-gathering and analysis.

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On Sat, 10/19/13, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa.
 To: jwalu at yahoo.com
 Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <i-network at dgroups.org>, "eThinkers" <ethinktanktz at yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 Date: Saturday, October 19, 2013, 1:34 PM

 Dear Dr. Ndemo and
 Walu,
 Having participated in driving the
 reduction of prices of broadband connectivity in Tanzania
 (core/transport Backhaul) by over 99% compared to 2009
 prices; it is now time to agree on what we mean
 "Broadband". Further, I suggest we seriously agree
 on what it means to connect xxxxxx to ICTs, to help/guide
 all researchers in reporting about meeting the WSIS targets
 by 2015. Please recall...the first six targets are about
 connecting xxxx to ICTs. Here they are:

 1.To
 connect villages with ICTs and
 establish community access points.

 2.To
 connect universities, colleges,
 secondary schools and primary
 schools with
 ICTs.

 3.To
 connect scientific and research centers with
 ICTs 4.To
 connect public libraries, cultural centers, museums, post
 offices
 and archives with ICTs.

 5.To
 connect health centers and hospitals
 with ICTs.

 6.To
 connect all local and central
 government departments and
 establish websites
 and email
 addresses.

 Dr. Ndemo, comming up with a
 harmonised definition certainly will help
 data 
 collectors to give our region a
 fair reporting. I request your thoughts
 on this.

 Regards

 __________________________________
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 Consulting Engineer in ICTs
 P. O. Box
 32736
 Dar es
 Salaam
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 On Sat, Oct 19, 2013
 at 12:37 PM, Hassan Wekesa <hwekesa at gmail.com>
 wrote:

 Walu,The same argument also applies to
 the measure economists use to gauge growing economies in
 Africa. When they say country A has the fastest growing
 economy, you wonder what parameters have been used. You
 cannot  compare a country that has just gained stability
 after maybe civil unrest and a country that has been stable
 in terms of economic stability. 

 It is apparent that the latter will have a higher GDP
 than the former and thus cannot be used as a benchmark for
 comparison. Having said that,  I guess the same analogy can
 be used in comparing the cost of verifying where the cost of
 broadband is cheaper.

 Hassan

 On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM,
 Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com>
 wrote:

       Dr. Ndemo,
 I salute you! Thanks for the additional
 insights.
 Regards

 __________________________________
 Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD
 Consulting Engineer in ICTs
 P. O. Box
 32736
 Dar es
 Salaam
 Tanzania
 Tel: +255-784-786429
 Fax: +255--732-920133
 Email: engzaipuna at ieee.org
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 On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM,
 Bitange Ndemo <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
 wrote:

 Eng. Dr. Yonah,

 The average is one of the measures of central tendency.  It
 is not used

 without looking at other measures in order to give you a
 clear picture.

 You always should know the range and the standard deviation.
  We usually

 use the average or the mean to get you the rough estimate.
  In a

 population the mean is closer to the truth but in a sample
 collected

 randomly, it can vary but not too much.  There is always a
 problem with

 data gathering where some people may not understand the
 ethics behind

 authentic data.  There are numerous occasions when people
 lie with

 statistics.

 In essence we should not blindly dismiss any numbers unless
 we have looked

 at the methodology which is always not given although it is
 a requirement

 in such data.

 Ndemo.

 > Thanks Walu! Very helpful indeed. But it reminded me of
 a book I once read

 > called: "The Enemy called Average" by John
 Mason!  It is always misleading

 > when you  report by numerical rankings instead of
 group rankings

 > especially

 > using averages!

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 > In my early years of learning signal processing, I
 learnt that the

 > mathematical operator called average is really a FILTER
 that only extracts

 > the DC value from the noisy signal (data). It throws
 out ALL THE NOISE if

 > indeed you have a very very large (infinity) data
 sample. Else the average

 > is very noisy! This is the catchy 22 in the integrity
 of the reported

 > figures!

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 > Once again, thanks Walu.

 >

 > Regards

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 > __________________________________

 > *Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD*

 > *Consulting Engineer in ICTs*

 > *P. O. Box 32736*

 > *Dar es Salaam*

 > *Tanzania*

 > *Tel: +255-784-786429*

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 <engzaipuna at ieee.org>

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 > *Advancing Technology for Humanity!*

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 > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
 wrote:

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 >> Far from it...this is not "dollarization"
 of our economies.

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 >> It is just that researchers have to find a way of
 defining

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 eventually provide an

 >> objective ranking.

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 >> ITU defines affordability as a function of average
 incomes. Consider the

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 >> If average incomes in country A = 100Euros (just to
 avoid the dollar

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 BOTH countries a

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 >> Internet link goes for 50Euros per month, which of
 these two countries

 >> enjoys cheaper internet services?

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 >> 50Euros in Country A happens to be 50% of the
 average income while 50%

 >> Euros in Country B is only 25% of the average
 incomes. Would you like to

 >> live in a country where internet costs 50% of your
 salary or where its

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 twices as expensive as

 >> Country B.

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 >> Country B is therefore considered to have cheaper
 internet services

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 >> though internet does costs the SAME in Euro terms
 across both

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 >> not sure if its clearer or worse :-)

 >> walu.

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 >> On Wed, 10/16/13, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com>
 wrote:

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 >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has
 the cheapest Broadband

 >> Internet in E-Africa.

 >> To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>

 >> Cc: "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe at gmail.com>,
 "I-Network Uganda" <

 >> i-network at dgroups.org>,
 "eThinkers" <ethinktanktz at yahoogroups.com>,

 >> "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>

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 >> Dear Walu,

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 >> http://clknet.or.tz/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tanzanian-Economy.pdf/

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 >> We surely have a long way to go in creating our

 >> own information even though we have our own
 knowledge about

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 >> Keep thinking and discussing...

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 >> Regards

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 >> __________________________________

 >> Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD

 >> Consulting Engineer in ICTs

 >> P. O. Box

 >> 32736

 >> Dar es

 >> Salaam

 >> Tanzania

 >> Tel:

 >> +255-784-786429

 >> Fax:

 >> +255--732-920133

 >> Email: engzaipuna at ieee.org

 >> ===============================

 >> It is About Engineering People's Lives! &
 Advancing

 >> Technology for

 >> Humanity!===============================

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 >> this is where we go wrong. We (East Africans) pay
 top-dollar

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 ignore their

 >> research output for various reasons - including
 lying :-).

 >> In which case we should at least stop being members
 and save

 >> the money for something else. Incidentally, ITU has
 been

 >> around for donkey years doing policy research in
 telecomms

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 little respect

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 >> But if we doubt them, we should produce alternate
 research

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 >> Research ICT Africa report- whic shows that
 actually .TZ has

 >> the most affordable internet services. From the
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 >> reading of that I can see that perhaps what
 Research ICT

 >> Africa failed to do was that they did not

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 >> What this means is that if a coke or any product is
 1USD in

 >> the US and it is also 1USD in Kenya, that coke is
 still

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 differentials

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 equally

 >> affordable . Put differently an American finds it
 easier to

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 ICT

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 >> walu.

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 >> On Tue, 10/15/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>

 >> wrote:

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 >> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has
 the

 >> cheapest Broadband Internet in E-Africa.

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 >> To: jwalu at yahoo.com

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 >> Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <i-network at dgroups.org>,

 >> "eThinkers" <ethinktanktz at yahoogroups.com>,

 >> "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>

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 >> Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:29 PM

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 >> It's a lie, I am here and

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 >> frustrated with high costs of broadband...

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 >> 9:15 PM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com>

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 >> How about the attached report? Sometimes, you got

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 >> to find a comparative approach to make sense out of
 these

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 >> studies. Sometimes it matters who reports.....But
 the

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 >> customer knows the truth!

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 >> Regards

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 >> __________________________________

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 >> Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD

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 >> Consulting Engineer in ICTs

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 >> P. O. Box

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 >> 32736

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 >> Dar es

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 >> Salaam

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 >> Tanzania

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 >> Tel: +255-784-786429

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 >> Fax: +255--732-920133

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 >> Email: engzaipuna at ieee.org

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 >> It is About Engineering People's

 >> Lives! & Advancing

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 >> Technology for

 >>

 >> Humanity!===============================

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 his

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