[kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband
Paul Roy Owino
roykoikai at gmail.com
Sat Oct 19 13:39:47 EAT 2013
Internet in E-Africa.
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First let me welcome Dr. Yonah whom have worked with previously in
Tanzania and has done alot for his country to transform ICT.
I honestly believe TZ has the cheapest access to internet. I do not
need to read all the literature but based on my stay in TZ, UG, and KE
I have enough experience to make this bold statement.
I like the document shared by Yonah clearly arguing his case based on
concrete facts.
Lets not believe these half-baked research from the so called ITU. We
know the truth from the ground.
Paul Roy.
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Zaipuna Yonah
Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2013 10:04 AM
To: Paul Roy
Cc: I-Network Uganda; eThinkers; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest
Broadband Internet in E-Africa.
Dear Walu,
Are you suggesting we approve with open arms the mammon called
dollarization?
I am just curious!
http://clknet.or.tz/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tan=
zanian-Economy.pdf/
We surely have a long way to go in creating our own information even though
we have our own knowledge about issues like this.
Keep thinking and discussing...
Regards
__________________________________
*Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD*
*Consulting Engineer in ICTs*
*P. O. Box 32736*
*Dar es Salaam*
*Tanzania*
*Tel: +255-784-786429*
*Fax: +255--732-920133*
*Email: **engzaipuna at ieee.org* <engzaipuna at ieee.org>
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> @Brian,
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> this is where we go wrong. We (East Africans) pay top-dollar to be member=
s
> of ITU and then we consistently ignore their research output for various
> reasons - including lying :-). In which case we should at least stop bein=
g
> members and save the money for something else. Incidentally, ITU has been
> around for donkey years doing policy research in telecomms and we should =
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> least give their report some little respect and attention.
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> But if we doubt them, we should produce alternate research like what Eng.
> Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD has done with Research ICT Africa report- whic
> shows that actually .TZ has the most affordable internet services. From t=
he
> quick reading of that I can see that perhaps what Research ICT Africa
> failed to do was that they did not "normalize" their figures.
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> What this means is that if a coke or any product is 1USD in the US and it
> is also 1USD in Kenya, that coke is still considered more expensive in
> Kenya because of differentials in national income levels i.e. they are no=
t
> equally affordable . Put differently an American finds it easier to spend
> the 1USD than the Kenyan would.
>
> So if one was to "normalize" the Research ICT report against national
> income levels, we would most likely arrive at the same (ITU) conclusion.
>
> walu.
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> On Tue, 10/15/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband
> Internet in E-Africa.
> To: jwalu at yahoo.com
> Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <i-network at dgroups.org>, "eThinkers" <
> ethinktanktz at yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <
> kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:29 PM
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> It's a lie, I am here and
> frustrated with high costs of broadband...
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at
> 9:15 PM, Zaipuna Yonah <zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> How about the attached report? Sometimes, you got
> to find a comparative approach to make sense out of these
> studies. Sometimes it matters who reports.....But the
> customer knows the truth!
>
>
> Regards
> __________________________________
> Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD
> Consulting Engineer in ICTs
> P. O. Box
> 32736
> Dar es
> Salaam
> Tanzania
> Tel: +255-784-786429
> Fax: +255--732-920133
> Email: engzaipuna at ieee.org
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> Technology for
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> Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
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> This comes as a suprise. One would have thought Kenya and TZ
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> conne Submarine connectivity/Gatewyas at Mombasa and Dar
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> But according to the latest 2013 ITU report that has been
> tracking and measuring affordability of internet, UG is
> ranked no 139, TZ at no 143 and Kenya at no 149 globally in
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> Cost of broadband internet in Kenya is put at 49% of the
> Gross National Income(GNI) compared to .UG at 32%. Put
> differently it costs an average Kenyan half(50%) his salary
> to connect to a broadband internet link. In SA it is about
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<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">First let m=
e welcome Dr. Yonah whom have worked with previously in Tanzania and has do=
ne alot for his country to transform ICT.<BR><BR>I honestly believe TZ has =
the cheapest access to internet. I do not need to read all the literature b=
ut based on my stay in TZ, UG, and KE I have enough experience to make this=
bold statement.<BR><BR>I like the document shared by Yonah clearly arguing=
his case based on concrete facts.<BR><BR>Lets not believe these half=
-baked research from the so called ITU. We know the truth from the ground.<=
BR><BR>Paul Roy.<BR><BR>Sent from my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
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<SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGH=
T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,=
sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com">Zaipuna Yonah</A></S=
PAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FO=
NT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri,sans-serif">=E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E10/=E2=80=8E2013 10:04 AM</SPAN><B=
R><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEI=
GHT: bold">To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,=
sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:roykoikai at gmail.com">Paul Roy</A></SPAN><BR><=
SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT=
: bold">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,san=
s-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:i-network at dgroups.org">I-Network Uganda</A>; <A =
href=3D"mailto:ethinktanktz at yahoogroups.com">eThinkers</A>; <A href=3D"mail=
to:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions</A></SPAN=
><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-=
WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri,sans-serif">Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest B=
roadband Internet in E-Africa.</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Dear Walu,<div><br></div><div style>Are you suggesting we approve =
with open arms the mammon called dollarization?=C2=A0</div><div style>I am =
just curious!=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://clknet.or.tz/wp-content/uploads/2012/0=
1/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tanzanian-Economy.pdf/">http://clknet.or.tz/wp-c=
ontent/uploads/2012/01/PB1-Dollarization-of-the-Tanzanian-Economy.pdf/</a><=
/div>
<div style><br></div><div style>We surely have a long way to go in creating=
our own information even though we have our own knowledge about issues lik=
e this.</div><div style><br></div><div style>Keep thinking and discussing..=
.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Regards</div><div style><br></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>______=
____________________________</div>
<div><strong>Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD</strong></div>
<div><strong>Consulting Engineer in ICTs</strong></div>
<div><strong style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);font-size:x-small">P. O. Box 327=
36</strong></div>
<div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Dar es Salaam</strong></fon=
t></div>
<div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Tanzania</strong></font></d=
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<div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Tel: +255-784-786429</stron=
g></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#3333ff" size=3D"1"><strong>Fax: +255--732-920133</stro=
ng></font></div>
<div><strong>Email: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:engzaipuna at ieee.org" target=
=3D"_blank"><strong>engzaipuna at ieee.org</strong></a></div>
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Waluben=
go J <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">jwalu at yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
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<p>@Brian,<br>
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this is where we go wrong. We (East Africans) pay top-dollar to be members =
of ITU and then we consistently ignore their research output for various re=
asons - including lying :-). In which case we should at least stop being me=
mbers and save the money for something else. Incidentally, ITU has been aro=
und for donkey years doing policy research in telecomms and we should at le=
ast give their report some little respect and attention.<br>
<br>
But if we doubt them, we should produce alternate research like what Eng. D=
r. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD has done with Research ICT Africa report- whic sho=
ws that actually .TZ has the most affordable internet services. From the qu=
ick reading of that I can see that perhaps what Research ICT Africa failed =
to do was that they did not "normalize" their figures.<br>
<br>
What this means is that if a coke or any product is 1USD in the US and it i=
s also 1USD in Kenya, that coke is still considered more expensive in Kenya=
because of differentials in national income levels i.e. they are not equal=
ly affordable . Put differently an American finds it easier to spend the 1U=
SD than the Kenyan would.<br>
<br>
So if one was to "normalize" the Research ICT report against nati=
onal income levels, we would most likely arrive at the same (ITU) conclusio=
n.<br>
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walu.<br>
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On Tue, 10/15/13, Brian Munyao Longwe <<a href=3D"mailto:blongwe at gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">blongwe at gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] [eThinkTankTz] Uganda has the cheapest Broadband In=
ternet in E-Africa.<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:jwalu at yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">jwalu at yahoo.com</=
a><br>
Cc: "I-Network Uganda" <<a href=3D"mailto:i-network at dgroups.o=
rg" target=3D"_blank">i-network at dgroups.org</a>>, "eThinkers" =
<<a href=3D"mailto:ethinktanktz at yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">ethin=
ktanktz at yahoogroups.com</a>>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"=
; <<a href=3D"mailto:kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke" target=3D"_blank">ki=
ctanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke</a>><br>
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 11:29 PM</p><div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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It's a lie, I am here and<br>
frustrated with high costs of broadband...<br>
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at<br>
9:15 PM, Zaipuna Yonah <<a href=3D"mailto:zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">zaipuna.yonah at gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
How about the attached report? Sometimes, you got<br>
to find a comparative approach to make sense out of these<br>
studies. Sometimes it matters who reports.....But the<br>
customer knows the truth!<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
__________________________________<br>
Eng. Dr. Zaipuna O. Yonah, PhD<br>
Consulting Engineer in ICTs<br>
P. O. Box<br>
32736<br>
Dar es<br>
Salaam<br>
Tanzania<br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%2B255-784-786429" value=3D"+255784786429" target=3D"_=
blank">+255-784-786429</a><br>
Fax: <a href=3D"tel:%2B255--732-920133" value=3D"+255732920133" target=3D"=
_blank">+255--732-920133</a><br>
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:engzaipuna at ieee.org" target=3D"_blank">engzaipuna=
@ieee.org</a><br>
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Folks,(apologies for cross-posting)<br>
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This comes as a suprise. One would have thought Kenya and TZ<br>
by virtue of "owning" the International Internet<br>
conne Submarine connectivity/Gatewyas at Mombasa and Dar<br>
respectively, they would offer the cheapest Internet costs.<br>
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But according to the latest 2013 ITU report that has been<br>
tracking and measuring affordability of internet, UG is<br>
ranked no 139, TZ at no 143 and Kenya at no 149 globally in<br>
terms of affordability.<br>
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Cost of broadband internet in Kenya is put at 49% of the<br>
Gross National Income(GNI) compared to .UG at 32%. Put<br>
differently it costs an average Kenyan half(50%) his salary<br>
to connect to a broadband internet link. In SA it is about<br>
4% of their GNI.<br>
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Those who can withstand the statistics/readings can pull the<br>
Executive Report at <br>
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is2013/MIS2013-exec-sum_E.pdf" target=3D"_blank">http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-=
D/Statistics/Documents/publications/mis2013/MIS2013-exec-sum_E.pdf</a><br>
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@ CS Matiang'i - this could be part of your bedtime<br>
reading collection :-)<br>
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