[kictanet] IFMIS Reloaded? Is this the silver bullet to corruption? Or is it just another PR exercise in futility?

Ali Hussein ali at hussein.me.ke
Wed Oct 9 16:23:24 EAT 2013


Phares

I agree with the principle of GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out).

I would however respectfully disagree with your sentence:- 

> 'Governments have existed with more services, higher revenue collection and lower corruption than Kenya for several years, without IT.'

Whilst it is true that corruption will exist with or without IT it factually untrue that in today's world governments can deliver faster, more efficient services without IT. Of course I'm happy to stand corrected if you could but just give me some cases where this has happened. 

Ali Hussein

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"Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb

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> On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> What all systemic failures have in common is human beings. 
> 
> Any system can be corrupted if the objective of those using it is corrupting the system… 
> 
> Governments have existed with more services, higher revenue collection and lower corruption than Kenya for several years, without IT. 
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> Warm Regards,
> Phares Kariuki
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>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Ali Hussein wrote:
>> 
>> Listers
>> 
>> There has been a lot said about IFMIS and how it's supposed to have revolutionized Government accountability and spending. There are as many detractors as there are supporters. 
>> 
>> What is the real story? 
>> 
>> Can someone in Treasury/ICTA  share with us how this Government ERP has fared since its inception? 
>> 
>> See links below from the same media group that have different stories to tell about the success/failure of IFMIS 
>> 
>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/New-cashflow-audit-system-rolled-out-in-war-on-graft/-/539546/2023084/-/ne2lu1z/-/index.html
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>> http://mobile.nation.co.ke/business/Treasury-ministries-in-row-over-use-of-IMF-backed/-/1950106/2003266/-/format/xhtml/-/f69xxk/-/index.html
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>> It would be good to get a 'State of IFMIS' report from the Treasury. 
>> 
>> Ali Hussein
>> 
>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113
>> 
>> "Kujikwaa si kuanguka, bali ni kwenda mbele" (To stumble is not to fall but a sign of going forward) - Swahili Proverb
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