[kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Hate Speech

Fri Mar 8 12:28:21 EAT 2013

I agree with Robert on this.  A better argument than I can make was already
made by James Madison 200 years ago:

Original: http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa10.htm
Interpretation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._10#Madison.27s_arguments

Factionalism needs to be given freedom in a liberal society and only with
that freedom will liberal society be able to keep it at bay.  Factionalism
and hate that stays within the faction and isn't exposed will fester and
cause big problems in the future.

-Adam

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On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Washington,
>
> I believe what you are proposing is the same thing you where castigating
> us about, sugar coating.
>
> Your proposal would be like asking the media to stop showing us images
> from the 2007/8 PEV and instead just tell us about what happened.
>
> It is my believe that the people on this list are intelligent enough to
> know what to propagate and what not to, they need to know so that we can
> then carry out a postmortem and ask later "Did we let the country down".
>
> Dr. Ndemo reminded us the other day that 17.5 million Kenyans have access
> to the Internet, this fact to send shivers down our spines.
>
> Regards
>
> First they came for the Kikuyu's,
> and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Kikuyu.
> Then they came for the Luo's,
> and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Luo.
> Then they came for the Ndorobo,
> and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Ndorobo.
> Then they came for me,
> and there was no one left to speak for me.
>
>  Adopted from Martin-Niemöller's (1892–1984) "First they came . . ."
> about the inactivity of German intellectuals<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual>following the
> Nazi <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism> rise to power and the purging
> of their chosen targets, group after group
>
> If this seems too far from us here is another warning from Former
> Tanzanian President Mwalimu Nyerere
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if108QmFKt4&list=PLA0ADF02AD12B3B62
>
>
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo at gmail.com>
>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Friday, 8 March 2013, 10:26
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed? Hate Speech
>
> Bobby,
>
> You shouldn't have posted the link in the first place, as that just gives
> it more publicity.
>
> On 8 March 2013 09:47, robert yawe <robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I believe the issue of the IEBC transmission and tallying system is for
> now water under the bridge and we can always revisit it after the
> transition what we need to concentrate on know is how to stop the
> distribution of hate speech and related messages through social media that
> could lead us back down the labyrinth of 2007/8.
>
> How can we assist the government to clamp down on all the hateful
> information making rounds such as this one XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX which
> is only one of thousands making the rounds.
>
> Regards
>
> It is fool hardy to spend attention and resources on a postmortem when
> their is a living patient in crisis.
>
> Robert Yawe
> KAY System Technologies Ltd
> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> Kenya
>
> Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Davis Onsakia <mautidavis at gmail.com>
> *To:* robertyawe at yahoo.co.uk
> *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *Sent:* Friday, 8 March 2013, 7:55
> *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
>
> I personally heard this from the IEBC Chairman and was not amused. Such
> things don't just happen - definitely somebody somewhere, either after the
> testingor before, added this line of  code in the system.
>
> For me, with such issues, it was better abandoned - to at least save
> the integrity of the process.
>
> Best Regards,
> Davis M Onsakia
> "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the
> shore for a very long time."
>
>
> On 7 March 2013 20:11, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> wrote:
>
> Anyone saw this article and can verify content - i missed the press
> conference
>
>
> http://www.techmtaa.com/2013/03/07/kenyadecides-iebc-chairman-admitted-on-live-tv-that-their-system-was-hacked/
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca at lists.kictanet.or.ke] on
> behalf of Gilda Odera [godera at skyweb.co.ke]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:02 AM
> To: Edith Adera
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
>
> And when I say plan, it extends beyond IEBC. If the timing was too short
> to test properly as I see here below, I expected the ICT team to brief the
> Chairman of IEBC of the risk involved and for him to inform the public that
> much as they wanted an electronic voting system, the finances must be made
> available early enough and so they have no choice to go but to go manual.
> The buck then shifts to Treasury who must be pressurized to perform their
> functions effectively. This involves more people than just the IEBC  though
> they will now take the beating for accepting to use a system that had not
> properly been tested.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gilda Odera
>
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com<mailto:
> dmuthoni at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Now, there is loads of information that is becoming available about the
> system. I am sharing more that has come my way:
>
>
>   1.  The RFP used to source a vendor:
> http://buyersguide.ifes.org/procurement_pdf/1356124968.pdf
>   2.  RFP was closing only 4th January, 2013, yes..only this January
>   3.  An external party (US based) that seems to have been fully involved
> in the entire procurement process and i would imagine implementation as
> well is http://www.ifes.org/. See all details about their role in the RFP
> and others on their website.
>   4.  Project was USAID funded.
>   5.  A good blog with several discussions on this:
> http://iebctechkenya.tumblr.com/
>   6.  Stories on media that never caught quick attention:
> http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/article-108148/iebc-must-fix-results-transmission-system-fast,
> http://tinyurl.com/d9va4k4
>
> Before we blame anybody or feel sorry for any party, Please lets do a
> thorough review of the ongoings. I am sure we shall then address the IT
> problem in this case.
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com<mailto:
> agostal at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Roland
>
> The governance experts are saying - lack of governance
>
> The networking experts are saying - lets get better VPNS
>
> The server experts are saying - we should have used HP or SUN or IBM
>
> The database experts are concerned Oracle was used (Open Source Guys would
> want MySQL)
>
> Software Developers - why use language X and not you
>
> Software Testers - want more testing
>
> Everyone is pitching their wares ... no one is sure what happened .......
> ... and the job is over this week :)
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Roland Omoresemi <
> roland at tezzasolutions.com<mailto:roland at tezzasolutions.com>> wrote:
> Can we really blame ICT when the true culprit appears to be the lack of
> proper testing of the systems in play?
>
> IEBC could have performance tested (both load and stress) their systems to
> see how they would react under varying loads.
>
> The tools and human resources were right there in Kenya but it is obvious
> we failed to apply them to help create a different result than what we
> currently face.
>
> What we are witnessing is a classic case of what happens when we fail to
> adequately test our applications. Our non-conformance cost
> skyrockets...IEBC now has to worry about the cost of doing damage control
> on the biggest stage ever when it could have spent a fraction of the same
> cost to perform load or stress tests which would have helped them identify
> issues/bottlenecks in their systems long before now.
>
> This is also not much different from what some of our local companies
> do...we deploy critical systems without proper testing and we then pray and
> hope nothing happens.
>
> It is saddening that we don't see much value in setting aside adequate
> time for testing our applications (most especially those that are
> customer-facing) or we push whatever little testing we do to the very last
> minute when its practically too late to make any difference...or until the
> "s..." hits the ceiling and we then start to wonder why any of our issues
> could be happening.
>
> Could we really blame ICT here or should we be looking closely at our lack
> of proper software testing?
>
> - Roland
> ------Original Message------
> From: Edith Adera
> Sender: kictanet
> To: Roland Omoresemi
> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> Subject: [kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?
> Sent: Mar 6, 2013 12:55 AM
>
> Listers,
>
> It is a shame that for the first time in Kenya's history when IT is given
> a chance to bring credibility and efficiency in the electoral process, ICT
> has failed SPECTACULARLY!
>
> what went wrong?
>
> Edith
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