[kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?

Thu Mar 7 19:38:16 EAT 2013

I agree! !!!!!!!!!!!!


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On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 9:53 PM PST Joseph Mucheru wrote:

>Dear Listers,
>
>Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting
>him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the
>results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and
>the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open
>public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political
>parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be
>unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now.
>
>my two cents
>
>
>On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik at zungu.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at
>> IEBC?
>>
>> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology*
>>
>> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological
>> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic
>> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been
>> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when
>> Presidential results are relayed electronically.
>>  Erik Hersman
>>
>> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/>
>> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed
>> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public
>> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually
>> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying
>> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin.
>>
>> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several
>> integration requirements with several third party applications. The
>> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness
>> process went.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik at zungu.com> wrote:
>>
>> Agosta,
>>
>> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on
>> this list we understand that better than most.  However, how are you
>> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong?
>>
>> That's really what's at issue here.  It's about understanding how it
>> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if
>> anything) we can do.  Do you find something wrong in that train of thought?
>>
>>  Erik Hersman
>>
>> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/>
>> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Daudi
>>
>> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election
>> system, things fail and most times they recover.
>>
>> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a
>> fact what the problem is
>>
>> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the
>> staff there. We know them !!
>>
>> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs,
>> websites etc etc
>>
>> Maybe this will bring in more grants .....
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> about the RFP ...
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL,
>>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS
>>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS
>>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF,
>>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED
>>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II)
>>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND
>>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY
>>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND
>>> TO THIS RFP
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Liko,
>>>
>>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election
>>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans.
>>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what
>>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas.
>>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them
>>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed.
>>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is
>>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't
>>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on.
>>>
>>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN
>>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document.
>>>
>>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our
>>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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