[kictanet] Has the ICT Sector Failed?

Thu Mar 7 08:53:15 EAT 2013

Dear Listers,

Is this the right time to be asking Dismas to answer questions or getting
him to get the results out? Let's focus on the BIG issue at the moment, the
results are not out yet and this is the number one priority for IEBC and
the staff and the country. After the results are out, we can call an open
public forum that will give everyone time to respond. Right now political
parties, candidates and the country are waiting for results and it would be
unfair to expect IEBC to be answering questions on the systems right now.

my two cents

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Erik Hersman <erik at zungu.com> wrote:

> Does anyone on the list have the contact information for Dismas Ongondi at
> IEBC?
>
> *Dismas Ongondi - Director of Information Communication Technology*
>
> As head of the ICT department, he has been in charge of the technological
> revolution at the commission. The implementation of the an electronic
> results transmission technology and biometric voter registration has been
> under his docket. He is the man Kenyans will be focusing on tomorrow when
> Presidential results are relayed electronically.
>  Erik Hersman
>
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>
>
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would be curious to know when the selected vendor actually indeed
> receive their contract for the work to begin. My experience with public
> procurement (GoK, USAID, etc), once the bids are closed, it will usually
> take more than 30 days to get everything finalized internal to the buying
> organisation for a contract to be issued and hence works to begin.
>
> Considering this was a software project for custom tool and several
> integration requirements with several third party applications. The
> problems were are seeing are really a manifestation of how the preparedness
> process went.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Erik Hersman <erik at zungu.com> wrote:
>
>> Agosta,
>>
>> I think it's clear that we all understand that tech issues happen, on
>> this list we understand that better than most.  However, how are you
>> supposed to help if you don't know what's wrong?
>>
>> That's really what's at issue here.  It's about understanding how it
>> works first, then who's involved, then what's wrong, then what (if
>> anything) we can do.  Do you find something wrong in that train of thought?
>>
>>  Erik Hersman
>>
>> www.ushahidi.com | www.iHub.co.ke <http://www.ihub.co.ke/>
>> www.whiteafrican.com <http://www.afrigadget.com/> | @whiteafrican<http://twitter.com/whiteafrican>
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Daudi
>>
>> My point is when people work on complex systems ... like the election
>> system, things fail and most times they recover.
>>
>> Lets not have a public hazing exercise -- Unless we say we know for a
>> fact what the problem is
>>
>> and in that case, first step would be to offer help to IEBC - or the
>> staff there. We know them !!
>>
>> There are too many of us who are now offering solutions on blogs,
>> websites etc etc
>>
>> Maybe this will bring in more grants .....
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Daudi Were <daudi.were at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 March 2013 09:56, Agosta Liko <agostal at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> about the RFP ...
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> THIS REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) IS THE EXCLUSIVE, CONFIDENTIAL,
>>>> PROPRIETARY PROPERTY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FOUNDATION FOR ELECTORAL SYSTEMS
>>>> (IFES). IT MAY NOT BE COPIED, TRANSMITTED, OR DISCLOSED BY ANY MEANS
>>>> WITHOUT THE EXPRESS WRITTEN CONSENT OF IFES . BY ACCEPTING A COPY HEREOF,
>>>> RECIPIENT AGREES TO (I) BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CONTAINED
>>>> HEREIN (INCLUDING BUT NO T LIMITED TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISONS), (II)
>>>> USE THE RFP (AND ANY RELATED DOCUMENTS) SOLE LY FOR EVALUATION PURPOSES AND
>>>> FOR RESPONDING TO THIS RFP, AND (III) RETURN OR DESTROY THE RFP (AND ANY
>>>> RELATED DOCUMENTS) UPON IFES REQUEST OR UPON YOUR DECISION NOT TO RESPOND
>>>> TO THIS RFP
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Liko,
>>>
>>> The RFP maybe belong to IFES (and that can be disputed), the election
>>> and the electoral process belongs to Kenyans.
>>> We not only have the right, we have the RESPONSIBILITY to question what
>>> is going on with the ICT systems at Bomas.
>>> Since you keep telling us to expect things to fail and then expect them
>>> to be fixed why don't you tell us WHAT failed and WHAT is being fixed.
>>> Simple enough. If you don't want to tell us what is failing and what is
>>> being fixed then tell us WHY you can not tell us. Is it that you don't
>>> know, in which case you should join is trying to find out WHAT is going on.
>>>
>>> The integrity of our election is much more important that a warning IN
>>> CAPS about which obscure company owns which document.
>>>
>>> We ask these questions are patriots, as concerned citizens who want our
>>> electoral commission to succeed. Obscure confidentially clauses or not.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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