[kictanet] #KEDebate13

william janak williamjanak at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 13 19:22:40 EAT 2013 

Certainly, it was wrong to go on and on. There should be breaks for the Presidential candidates to rest and even go to the rest rooms!

Janak.




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 From: Gilda Odera <godera at skyweb.co.ke>
To: williamjanak at yahoo.com 
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13
 

  
I thought it was rather unkind making the candidates 
stand for a good 3 hours surely. Martha Karua noticeably struggled on her heels 
at the end of the first session.Maybe in the next debate they need to look 
into this. Julie and Linus were comfortably sitting down 
throughout!
I also look forward to a more engaging style. Flesh out 
more! But a good start notheless!
 
Gilda Odera
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>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:52  AM
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>George,
> 
>What would you  use to hold them to account? Their empty words?
> 
>You will be  surprised to learn that the women’s movement, civil society movement and the  masses brought Senegal’s current President into power amidst the greatest  odds…trying to unseat a POWERFUL incumbent that H.E. Wade was. But they did  it. One of the things the movement did was to get the President to physically  sign publicly a pledge (manifesto) of what he will do. To-date that’s what is  used to hold him accountable and remind him of what he promised ad signed to  deliver for the people of Senegal.
> 
>Why can’t Kenyans  hold their leaders to account in equal measure?....and what else would you use  to do so other than what they have promised in ”indelible ink”? 
> 
>It’s when people  like you make them think they can get away with empty words is when they do  not give what they pledge the seriousness it deserves.
> 
>We need to break  away from our old mindsets.
> 
>Edith
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>From:George  Nyabuga [mailto:george at afrinic.net] 
>Sent: February 13, 2013 10:39  AM
>To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Edith  Adera
>Subject: Re: [kictanet]  #KEDebate13
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>I was equally delighted to listen to the candidates.  However, I should say I was disappointed more because of the quality of  answers. I might have missed a bit of it as i struggled to watch it online (I  eventually decided to listen instead, thanks to live streaming by Capital!),  but the guys were not articulate enough and struggled to convince me that they  grasp the issues affecting Kenyans. Beyond the mere demagoguery, I did not  hear concrete answers on how they would deal with education, health and social  problems. Perhaps I was expecting too much. But this was definitely a good  start.
> 
>Just tongue-in-cheek. Do we need manifestos when they are  merely 'pieces of paper'? How do we hold the guys and the parties to account  if they fail to deliver? They merely use manifestos as campaign tools, with no  intention of fulfilling whatever they have on those papers. I am being cynical  because there is no way the 'bigger' boys (to use Raila's words) are going to  implement policies of land (distribution), (absolutely) free education. They  are merely pulling wool over our eyes and we should be more critical of these,  and perhaps use them to determine the way we vote and of course their fate.  Unfortunately, many of us do not have the capacity to digest and understand  the manifestos. Very unfortunate indeed.
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>On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> 
wrote:
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>
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>Indeed, Kudos to the media for a job well done.
> 
>I  recall a tweet from Ndemo that morning suggesting that all Kenyans should read  the manifestos before the debate so we judge candidates based on their  concrete plans and their responses to questions rather than other  considerations (e.g. tribal persuasions). I thought this was an interesting  prompting and went out in search of the manifestos online....to my  disappointment, I only found 2 manifestos...CORD and JUBILEE!!!. None of the  others exist online, unless I missed them. Are the other parties embracing the  "digital world"?
> 
>If anyone has electronic copies of the other 6 manifestos, please  share on the list
> 
>Listers, What should be different in Debate No 2?
> 
>Edith
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>Sent: February 13, 2013 9:20 AM
>To: Edith 
  Adera
>Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
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  #KEDebate13
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>Alice  Best,
> 
>I was  lurking in the shadows until I took note that the landmark  debate in  question has not been given 'kipao mbele' here. If I could raise 'hue and  cry', that ICT wasn't given the due mileage in that debate, then we could  sensitize candidates before the next one that, this is a driver of the current  and future economy. Meanwhile, just noticed all the well articulated positions  had little or non to borrow from the debate we had a while back here quizzing  Dr. Ndemo as a 'future' candidate. If you ask me, the aspirants would benefit  a lot from his insights that he widely shared here. Maybe at a consultancy  fee..? Just me..
> 
>Harry
> 
> 
>Alice  Munyua <alice at apc.org>  wrote:
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>>Kudos to the media for organising our first ever presidential  debate.
>>It  was an important milestone.  Very interesting, dealt with  real
>>issues and was also quite entertaining.
>> 
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>>Best
>>Alice
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