[kictanet] #KEDebate13

Wed Feb 13 10:50:21 EAT 2013

In my opinion so long as parties are panel beaten affairs that are simply
vehicles used to get to power then we can forget about issue based politics
and any semblance of coherence of policies. As it is all the candidate
parties are talking about the same thing. Build more infrastructure, pay
civil servants well, reduce waste of public resources, implement the
constitution, feed everyone for free, educate everyone for free, ensure
universal security/healthcare etc.

So as far as policies are concerned they are all the same and the Debate
was not actually a debate but a Q/A session. There were no opposing views
as to the way forward. No discussion about whether raising taxes or
lowering them was the best plan for the economy post march , no discussion
as to whether the 30% rule on local ownership of firms stands etc.. .
Things that actually matter.

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:39 AM, George Nyabuga <george at afrinic.net> wrote:

> I was equally delighted to listen to the candidates. However, I should say
> I was disappointed more because of the quality of answers. I might have
> missed a bit of it as i struggled to watch it online (I eventually decided
> to listen instead, thanks to live streaming by Capital!), but the guys were
> not articulate enough and struggled to convince me that they grasp the
> issues affecting Kenyans. Beyond the mere demagoguery, I did not hear
> concrete answers on how they would deal with education, health and social
> problems. Perhaps I was expecting too much. But this was definitely a good
> start.
>
> Just tongue-in-cheek. Do we need manifestos when they are merely 'pieces
> of paper'? How do we hold the guys and the parties to account if they fail
> to deliver? They merely use manifestos as campaign tools, with no intention
> of fulfilling whatever they have on those papers. I am being cynical
> because there is no way the 'bigger' boys (to use Raila's words) are going
> to implement policies of land (distribution), (absolutely) free education.
> They are merely pulling wool over our eyes and we should be more critical
> of these, and perhaps use them to determine the way we vote and of course
> their fate. Unfortunately, many of us do not have the capacity to digest
> and understand the manifestos. Very unfortunate indeed.
>
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> On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Edith Adera <eadera at idrc.ca> wrote:
>
> Indeed, Kudos to the media for a job well done.****
>
> I recall a tweet from Ndemo that morning suggesting that all Kenyans
> should read the manifestos before the debate so we judge candidates based
> on their concrete plans and their responses to questions rather than other
> considerations (e.g. tribal persuasions). I thought this was an interesting
> prompting and went out in search of the manifestos online....to my
> disappointment, I only found 2 manifestos...CORD and JUBILEE!!!. None of
> the others exist online, unless I missed them. Are the other parties
> embracing the "digital world"?****
>
> If anyone has electronic copies of the other 6 manifestos, please share on
> the list****
>
> Listers, What should be different in Debate No 2?****
>
> Edith****
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> Alice Best,****
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> I was lurking in the shadows until I took note that the landmark  debate
> in question has not been given 'kipao mbele' here. If I could raise 'hue
> and cry', that ICT wasn't given the due mileage in that debate, then we
> could sensitize candidates before the next one that, this is a driver of
> the current and future economy. Meanwhile, just noticed all the well
> articulated positions had little or non to borrow from the debate we had a
> while back here quizzing Dr. Ndemo as a 'future' candidate. If you ask me,
> the aspirants would benefit a lot from his insights that he widely shared
> here. Maybe at a consultancy fee..? Just me..****
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> Harry****
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> Alice Munyua <alice at apc.org> wrote:****
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> >Kudos to the media for organising our first ever presidential debate.****
> >It was an important milestone.  Very interesting, dealt with real****
> >issues and was also quite entertaining.****
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