[kictanet] Fwd: UPDATE ON NEW TRAFFIC LAWS FROM YOUR SAMBAU TEAM

Mon Dec 16 13:38:31 EAT 2013

Recently one traffic cop retorted to me... "Unataka tuongee mambo yako
lakini hutaki tuongee mambo yangu..."

Regards

Murigi / Stanley Muraya

*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
who takes a city." Prov 16:32*

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau
<solo.mburu at gmail.com>wrote:

> these laws are "very useless" if you've never been caught.
>
> I've, on two occasions, been a victim.
>
> First I was speeding by 2 km/hr (speed limit is 80km/hr) at a distance of
> less than 10 metres. The cop using a speed camera hid himself in some bush
> on the Naivasha- Nairobi Highway, near Limuru. Mind you, they use private
> vehicles to nab "errant" drivers. (Is this legal?)
> I did not have the Kshs. 5,000 they needed. In fact the arresting officer,
> wanted us to talk. I talked with my mouth, instead of my pocket.
> So I was booked to appear in court the following Monday (since it was a
> Friday), and left with a cash bond receipt.
> On Monday I was at Kibera Law courts, and this is another conduit for
> corruption. The watchman at the gate told me he could take me to the
> prosecutor and have my case determined before going to the judge. And of
> course, I see him as a "sign of good gesture!!!"
>
> I was unable to get to this point. In the court room, the judge gave me
> two options, pay Kshs. 5,000 or be a state guest for 10 days. The latter
> looked tough ~ my expectant wife, would be so devastated. I knew I was safe
> because the govt had my 5,000 Shillings already.
> Lo! the cops, in the temporary cell, said they needed one to deposit money
> at Kenya Commercial Bank (specifically at the Junction), because the KCB
> mtaani agent at the Court hall, was not working. when you are alone, behind
> the closed doors, knowing that your money is with the same government that
> wants you to make a deposit, you shudder.
>
> After putting some sense to a cop, she ordered our cash be brought to us.
> So I was in the cell, with 5,000 shillings the govt wanted from me. I
> couldn't understand why they couldn't just take the money and let me go
> home.
> The cop asked me to talk, again. And this is where I realized, people
> don't talk with their mouths ~ I did what I needed to do as the rest of the
> people in order to get out.
>
> I did eventually, after sharing the loot. Sharing because, I did divide
> the sum into two.
>
> The second incident, I was stopped on Ngong Road, near Prestige Plaza for
> driving while on phone ~ this was my undoing. The cop needed another 5,000
> Shillings. I had 500 with me. After much negotiations and arguments, he
> accepted the 500 Shillings, and parted with the words, "umenikosea sana,
> Solomon."
>
>
> So in short, there are so many loopholes when it comes to observing
> traffic laws here.
>
>
> In Botswana and Zambia, I'm told that if you dare jump the lights, even in
> the middle of the night, you may be well prepared for some hard times. I'm
> told traffic offence there is taken so heavily such that if you drove at
> night in an isolated area, the lights will be functioning - dare break the
> regulations.
>
>
> That's Kenya, Zambia and Botswana....
>
>
>
> On 11 December 2013 14:26, Mark Mwangi <mwangy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All the laws are useless if they are not respected. Very little of the
>> imagined revenues will end up in govt coffers. Cops are about to enjoy
>> christmas properly.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Yes Adam, the law looks good apart from inept police who take
>>> advantage of the law to extort motorists.
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya.
>>> twitter.com/lordmwesh
>>> google ID | Skype ID: lordmwesh
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 December 2013 09:54, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  This all looks pretty good to me aside from the eye test every 3
>>>> years - 5 or 10 years seems more efficient.
>>>>
>>>> This conversation is obviously outside of the ICT sphere except for the
>>>> giant issue which is that quality of life and sclerotic government are the
>>>> number one and two impediments to developing an ICT industry in Kenya.
>>>>  I've talked to numerous startup people from abroad who have been here for
>>>> a while and a number of them are considering decamping to Kigali or
>>>> Mauritius where it's safe and clean and doing things like registering your
>>>> company is just a matter of paperwork and a one week wait.
>>>>
>>>> Sorting out the craziness on the roads (especially as it impacts
>>>> pedestrians and bicyclists) is one small step towards making Nairobi an ICT
>>>> hub.
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
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>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Lizette Kraft <lfkraft at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: *Armanda Akiwumi*
>>>>> Date: Friday, 6 December 2013
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: UPDATE ON NEW TRAFFIC LAWS FROM YOUR SAMBAU TEAM
>>>>> To:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some morhe ridonkulus fines. Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Drive safely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gin
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* <gwsnews09 at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Date:* 6 December 2013 13:02:53 GMT+3
>>>>> *To:* undisclosed-recipients:;
>>>>> *Subject:* *UPDATE ON NEW TRAFFIC LAWS FROM YOUR SAMBAU TEAM*
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Members and Friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Sambau Team would like to share with your the following important
>>>>> information:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a summary of the drastic new traffic rules caused by the
>>>>> Amendment of section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya. The president
>>>>> signed the amendments yesterday meaning they are in operation from today
>>>>> and we could all be affected
>>>>>
>>>>> a. Number plates: When you sell your vehicle, you should surrender the
>>>>> number plates to the registrar of motor vehicles and when you fail to renew
>>>>> the insurance, remember to surrender the number plates to the registrar
>>>>> otherwise you risk being arrested and fined
>>>>> b. Overlapping, obstruction, driving on pavement or through a petrol
>>>>> station to avoid traffic-You risk a fine of Kshs 100,000 -300,000 or One
>>>>> year in jail or BOTH
>>>>> c. Over speeding - when you over speed- You risk a fine of Kshs 10,000
>>>>> or 3 months imprisonment or both
>>>>> d. Careless Driving: Penalty of Ksh 500,000 or 10 years imprisonment
>>>>> or both
>>>>> e. Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being
>>>>> treated like murder.
>>>>> f. Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten
>>>>> years in jail or both.
>>>>> g. PSV Operators - Should adhere to the uniforms and badges rules
>>>>> h. Motor Cycle operators - ONE PASSENGER only and the passenger and
>>>>> rider must be in reflective vests and helmets- otherwise you risk a fine of
>>>>> Kshs 10,000 and in default 12 months imprisonment
>>>>>
>>>>> Other changes as below:
>>>>> - Road blocks are to be gazetted prior to being mounted by the police
>>>>> · Driving licenses of speed limit violators shall be suspended for not
>>>>> less than 3 years if the person has exceeded speed limit by more than 10
>>>>> kph and if offence is repeated 3 or more times.
>>>>> - all passengers must wear their seatbelts
>>>>> · Mandatory eye test every 3 years for licensed drivers. And if you
>>>>> fail the test then license is withdrawn.
>>>>> · All law enforcement officers (regular police and APs) are now
>>>>> effectively mandated to deal with traffic issues with the abolition of the
>>>>> Traffic Department under the Kenya Police Service Act.
>>>>>
>>>>> MOST IMPORTANT: SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH DRIVERS, COLLEAGUES,
>>>>> FAMILY & FRIENDS
>>>>>
>>>>> SAMBAU TEAM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> for and on behalf of
>>>>> *WELFARE SOCIETY*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from iPad Gmail
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>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark Mwangi
>>
>> markmwangi.me.ke
>>
>>
>>
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