[kictanet] Nelson Mandela

Fri Dec 6 13:37:53 EAT 2013

+1

For him to be able to forgive a government and a people that denied him a
chance to even attend his children's burials while in jail!! he had to be
truly special. I hope our leaders are able to let go of their fears; work
with their 'enemies' and help build Kenya...RIP Madiba; you were one of a
kind

Kind regards,
Edwin

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   1. Re: Nelson Mandela (Walubengo J)
   2. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (Dennis Kioko)
   3. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:22:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Walubengo J <jwalu at yahoo.com>
To: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan at me.com>
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Not ICT related but allow me to also salute the African Icon Mandela. 

One thing he did very differently from an African perspective, is to leave
office when he was still needed => good succession planning => good legacy.

This is the most difficult lesson for our African leaders.

#RIPNelsonMandela.

walu.

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On Fri, 12/6/13, Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan at me.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela
 To: jwalu at yahoo.com
 Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:08 PM

 +1
 RIP NRM -- you have inscribed yourself into TIME  and HUMANITY.
 Eric here

 On 6 Dec 2013, at 09:44, Lkimani <lkimani at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 My favorite Madiba quote:
 Conviction is contagious,?never
 underestimate thePower of
 persistence"
 ? ? ? ? ....Nelson Madiba
 Mandela
 RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an  inspirationto us. ?We will
truly miss  you!
 Lucy

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 'Sometimes, it falls upon a
 generation to be great.'

 Pay tribute to Nelson Mandela
 and share his powerful words today.

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 Dear Lucy,

 Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and  hope touched and
inspired people all around the world. He  showed that the dream of a just
society is possible and he  challenged our generation to lead the way
towards it.

 As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in  London's Trafalgar
Square, 'Like slavery and  apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made
and it can  be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human  beings.'

 And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still.

 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a  generation to be great. You
can be that great generation.
 Let your greatness blossom.'

 One way to honor Nelson Mandela's memory is to share  those words to prove
every day that this generation can be  the great one that ends extreme
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Walu,
Say it louder! We need substantial objectivity on some of these matters.

John Kariuki.
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@Ali,

your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-)

Let me be cheeky abit.  

If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled?
Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, SMTP,
DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for over
10years...how come spam refused to die?

Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get
worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one
block (tech, political, legal or otherwise).  I think the solutions do not
lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above.

walu.

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On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security
 To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet at lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

 Walu
 I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue  tackled best by technology NOT
legislation...

 Ali Hussein
 +254 0770
 906375 / 0713 601113
 "I fear the day technology will
 surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation  of idiots". ?~
Albert Einstein  Sent from my iPad  On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J
<jwalu at yahoo.com>
 wrote:

 @Ndemo,

 The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some  animal in the US :-)
did manage to flood your email with  spam is a confirmation that we do need
the cyber-laws even  in Africa :-)

 Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I  had a comment on this
one paragraph :

 The industry sometimes lies with
 statistics that in most cases do not make any sense.
 Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security.
 Even countries with less than one per cent Internet  penetration are
talking about cyber security.
 <<

 I was of the opinion that countries with fewer  machines online SHOULD be
talking loudest about  Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected
world.
 Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals ?based in developed  economies hijack the few
?"3rd-world"
 (forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch  attacks in other
jurisdictions. Unless there are  laws/frameworks compelling corrective
action most of these  local networks will forever remain vulnerable.

 However, it also true is that some
 autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this
cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more  repression to their
citizenry. The civil-society (recently  baptized as evil-society :-) must
forever be  watchful.

 walu.

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 On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange at jambo.co.ke>
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  Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on  cyber security
  To: jwalu at yahoo.com
  Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
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  Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM

  Hussein,
  Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam  as
  punishment because of
  the article.? I am not opposed to cyber security  but
  some people (and you
  remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis  for
  stifling
  internet freedom.

  Ndemo.

 Grace

 Thanks for
 sharing. We indeed must tread carefully.
  There is definitely a
 case for a regulatory
 framework. This must however be
  tampered with the
 understanding that too much
 regulation will throttle
  the industry. It is a
 fine balance that we must
 maintain.

 *Ali
 Hussein*

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 On Thu, Dec 5,
 2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga
 <ggithaiga at hotmail.com>wrote:

 n Kenya, we have done extremely well in  the
  adoption of ICTs. This is
 a
 field
 that requires a lot of creativity, but we may
  just end up killing
 that
 creativity with too many rules and regulations
  in trying to
 counter
 computer crime sometimes referred to as  cybercrime
  or netcrime.

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-carefu
lly-on-cyber-security/-/539548/2098892/-/item/0/-/12mo495/-/index.html

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