[kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France

Thu Aug 29 13:32:41 EAT 2013

Yes, they have.

I know several pple using the 5K for 5Mbps.

On 29 August 2013 10:17, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com> wrote:

> JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will
> beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial
> buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year.
>
>
>
> Blessings
>
> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>
> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
> who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>
>> My sentiments exactly.  High quality fiber is the foundation of the
>> Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there
>> just needs to be more availability:
>>
>> * This solution won't help everybody
>> * This solution won't help the poor
>> * This solution won't help the rural
>> * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the
>> main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and
>> those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
>>
>> BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality
>> with no caps as far as I can tell.
>>
>> --
>> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is
>>> laying a good amount of Fiber now.
>>>
>>> We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K
>>> (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
>>>
>>> Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Blessings
>>>
>>> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>>>
>>> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than
>>> one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
>>>>
>>>> 1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant
>>>> 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right
>>>> of way (wayleave)
>>>> 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable
>>>> 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI
>>>> 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in
>>>> the country (it's branches and exchanges)
>>>> 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would
>>>> arouse any telco in the world
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'.  It's 2013 and
>>>>> that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by
>>>>> the end of the year:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lines_ap/
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the
>>>>> focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like
>>>>> Kenya Telekom
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
>>>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Telecom saga
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>>>>>> I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government
>>>>>> are just distracting the company and they now also look like the
>>>>>> company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other
>>>>>> incentives rather than arm twist it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein
>>>>>> Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12
>>>>>> To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi
>>>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>>>> Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France
>>>>>> Telecom saga
>>>>>> Listers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of
>>>>>> punitive
>>>>>> action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls
>>>>>> 'unprocedural'
>>>>>> transfer of shares.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right
>>>>>> thing. Lets
>>>>>> go one step further:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed
>>>>>> experiment
>>>>>> and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the
>>>>>> Kenyan
>>>>>> People.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=
>>>>>> ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: +254713601113
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<
>>>>>> http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al=
>>>>>> ihkassim>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are
>>>>>> purely
>>>>>> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>>>>>> organizations that I work with.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I
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>>>>>> atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet
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>>>>>> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
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>>>>>> ><A href=3D"mailto:dmbuvi at gmail.com">Dennis Kioko
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>>>>>> v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default"
>>>>>> style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser=
>>>>>> if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning
>>>>>> and thr=
>>>>>> eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it
>>>>>> calls=
>>>>>>  'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br>
>>>>>> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"
>>>>>> style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">=
>>>>>> In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right
>>>>>> thing. Lets=
>>>>>>  go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"
>>>>>> style=3D"f=
>>>>>> ont-family:georgia,serif">
>>>>>> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed
>>>>>> experiment=
>>>>>>  and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back
>>>>>> to th=
>>>>>> e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"
>>>>>> style=3D"font-fa=
>>>>>> mily:georgia,serif">
>>>>>> <br><a href=3D"
>>>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=
>>>>>> alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
>>>>>> ">http://w=
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share=
>>>>>> +deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share=+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html></a><br
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>>>>>> Hussein</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in
>>>>>> 0.0001pt"><font><b>=
>>>>>> <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old
>>>>>> Face","serif&quo=
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>>>>>> style=3D"margi=
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>>>>>> <font><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old
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>>>>>> serif""><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old
>>>>>> Face"=
>>>>>> ,"serif"">Partner, </span></b>Telemedia Africa
>>>>>> Ltd<br></span></b>=
>>>>>> </font></p>
>>>>>> <font>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font>=C2=A0</font></p><p
>>>>>> style=
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>>>>>> +25471360<font>1113</font></font><br></span></span></fon=
>>>>>> t></p>
>>>>>> <p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span
>>>>>> style=3D"font-family:georg=
>>>>>> ia,serif"><span>Twitter:
>>>>>> @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><=
>>>>>> font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">
>>>>>>
>>>>>> </span></font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span
>>>>>> style=3D"fon=
>>>>>> t-family:georgia,serif"><span>Skype:
>>>>>> abu-jomo</span></span></font></p><p st=
>>>>>> yle=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span
>>>>>> style=3D"font-family:georgia,se=
>>>>>> rif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href=3D"http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim"
>>>>>> targe=
>>>>>> t=3D"_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span><a
>>>>>> href=3D"http=
>>>>>> ://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target=3D"_blank"><span
>>>>>> style=3D"color:wi=
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>>>>>> style=3D"m=
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> </p><font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Blog: <a
>>>>>> href=3D"=
>>>>>> http://www.alyhussein.com" target=3D"_blank">www.alyhussein.com
>>>>>> </a><br><br>=
>>>>>> <br><font size=3D"1">Any information of a personal nature expressed
>>>>>> in this=
>>>>>>  email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official
>>>>>> position=
>>>>>> s of the organizations that I work
>>>>>> with.</font></span></span></font><span s=
>>>>>> tyle=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old
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