[kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France

Thu Aug 29 13:07:11 EAT 2013

Bottom line is the current TKL management (read France Telecom) blindly
believe that they can compete with Safaricom as a mobile operator, thereby
neglecting all other potential assets/revenue opportunities. Maybe take
away everything else  and leave them with the mobile license (there is a
precedent for this in Tanzania).

As for the total potential that TKL has - my list only scratched the
surface....

Brian

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is
> laying a good amount of Fiber now.
>
> We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs)
> to 10K (10Mbs)
>
> Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K
> offer.
>
> Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
>
>
>
> Blessings
>
> Murigi / Stanley Muraya
>
> *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one
> who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
>>
>> 1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant
>> 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of
>> way (wayleave)
>> 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable
>> 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI
>> 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the
>> country (it's branches and exchanges)
>> 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would
>> arouse any telco in the world
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'.  It's 2013 and that
>>> company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
>>>
>>> In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by
>>> the end of the year:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lines_ap/
>>>
>>> I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus
>>> should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya
>>> Telekom
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>> --
>>> Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io
>>> Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud>
>>> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Telecom saga
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>>>> I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government
>>>> are just distracting the company and they now also look like the
>>>> company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other
>>>> incentives rather than arm twist it?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein
>>>> Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12
>>>> To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi
>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>>>> Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France
>>>> Telecom saga
>>>> Listers
>>>>
>>>> In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive
>>>> action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls
>>>> 'unprocedural'
>>>> transfer of shares.
>>>>
>>>> In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing.
>>>> Lets
>>>> go one step further:-
>>>>
>>>> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed
>>>> experiment
>>>> and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the
>>>> Kenyan
>>>> People.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=
>>>> ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html>
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>>>
>>>> *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
>>>>
>>>> *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tel: +254713601113
>>>>
>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>
>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<
>>>> http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al=
>>>> ihkassim>
>>>>
>>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
>>>> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>>>> organizations that I work with.
>>>>
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>>>> atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet
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>>>> <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif;
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>>>> v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default"
>>>> style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser=
>>>> if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and
>>>> thr=
>>>> eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it
>>>> calls=
>>>>  'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br>
>>>> <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"
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>>>> In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing.
>>>> Lets=
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>>>> style=3D"f=
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>>>> The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed
>>>> experiment=
>>>>  and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back
>>>> to th=
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>>>> style=3D"font-fa=
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>>>> <br><a href=3D"
>>>> http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=
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>>>> ></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span
>>>> style=3D"fo=
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>>>> Hussein</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in
>>>> 0.0001pt"><font><b>=
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>>>> <font><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old
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>>>> serif""><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old
>>>> Face"=
>>>> ,"serif"">Partner, </span></b>Telemedia Africa
>>>> Ltd<br></span></b>=
>>>> </font></p>
>>>> <font>
>>>>
>>>> </font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font>=C2=A0</font></p><p
>>>> style=
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>>>> style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif=
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>>>> +25471360<font>1113</font></font><br></span></span></fon=
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>>>> <p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span
>>>> style=3D"font-family:georg=
>>>> ia,serif"><span>Twitter:
>>>> @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><=
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>>>>
>>>> </span></font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span
>>>> style=3D"fon=
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>>>> abu-jomo</span></span></font></p><p st=
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>>>> style=3D"font-family:georgia,se=
>>>> rif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href=3D"http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim"
>>>> targe=
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>>>> href=3D"http=
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>>>> style=3D"color:wi=
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>>>> <font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"></span></font><p
>>>> style=3D"m=
>>>> argin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">
>>>>
>>>> </p><font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Blog: <a
>>>> href=3D"=
>>>> http://www.alyhussein.com" target=3D"_blank">www.alyhussein.com
>>>> </a><br><br>=
>>>> <br><font size=3D"1">Any information of a personal nature expressed in
>>>> this=
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>>>> position=
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